Episode 50
Steer-daubin', Apple-bobbin', and Hob-nobbin' with Ned Bittner
In this outrageous 50th episode, four-time State Champion barrel racer, Ned Bittner stops by the crab-shed to shoot the breeze with Jeff about coaching, fatherhood, and the challenges we face in the world today. Ned reveals some of his close-held opinions about raising kids, and he spills the beans on his hidden horse-related past. Don't miss it!
Geoff Hylton, long-time friend of the show, makes a special guest appearance during the introduction and he tells a story about a time he was sexually assaulted by an elderly woman in public. It really makes you think.
I laughed a lot while editing this one, and that doesn't mean everyone will love it, but it is usually a good sign. You might not be able to tell, but I was a bit nervous in the beginning and started to relax as we went along. It can be stressful meeting your role models under new circumstances. But I think we pulled it off.
Big thank you to Ned Bittner for being my guest and to Geoff Hylton for helping me with the intro. I love both of these guys and I had a blast making this podcast with them.
I hope you enjoy.
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Transcript
Ned Bittner
JeffnGeoff Intro
[:[00:00:02] Geoff Hylton: okay. Damn. 10 roof.
[:[00:00:08] Geoff Hylton: go ahead. So he stops and I sit in my car and it's just a, just a man. He's just a guy. I really don't know who he is. I've never seen him before. I hope I never seen him again.
[:[00:00:25] Geoff Hylton: talking about. They sh that they shouldn't, they should probably shouldn't go out there in case that guy's out there.
[:[00:00:45] Jeff Nesbitt: to say something then, then save this story and tell it to me when we're done recording.
[:[00:01:09] it's been almost a year now, since we started this thing and 50 episodes was my original goal so here we are, and this is episode 50, so it's a, it's a big deal for me.
[:[00:01:21] Geoff Hylton: What's your total Domo up to like
[:[00:01:36] I keep. Self-deprecating but,
[:[00:01:46] Jeff Nesbitt: That is true. We got, I mean, a whole nother season coming up soon. Yeah, you'll be fine. Yeah. so it is Saturday, October 23rd, Anno Domini [00:02:00] 2021.
[:[00:02:18] You'll have to check it out. Be your first. Have you listened to any episodes of this show?
[:[00:02:34] Jeff Nesbitt: a long one.
[:[00:02:41] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. He was working at that wedding too. Oh yeah.
[:[00:03:07] And I. Just played songs, the whole rest of the wedding and people would filter in and out. They talk to me here and there, but not a lot, not too much. It was a, it was a really nice birthday. I think I would definitely do that again. I would charge more money because this time I, I didn't really charge much at
[:[00:03:26] You didn't know what your performance was
[:[00:03:47] And we paid him $400, a lot of
[:[00:03:53] Jeff Nesbitt: dancing through the decades. That was our
[:[00:03:56] Jeff Nesbitt: late eighties. But rock was MOOC's like [00:04:00] go to, is that, but rock, is that the appropriate term? You
[:[00:04:09] Jeff Nesbitt: it.
[:[00:04:13] Geoff Hylton: But rock. Do you think it's just like a common misconception? It's not actually, but, but T rock it's like, but rock, like, there's actually a phrase before that the
[:[00:04:30] I don't say either one, just in case I do it with a K I just say
[:[00:04:35] Jeff Nesbitt: negative. You don't need to qualify for naked. You're either naked or. Can you be another kind of naked other than buck naked,
[:[00:04:55] Jeff Nesbitt: No, I consider you. Yeah, but nobody says [00:05:00] not yet. I just, I just started it
[:[00:05:07] Jeff Nesbitt: definitely
[:[00:05:09] Jeff Nesbitt: not new. No, it isn't. No, it isn't. If you were a beautiful woman and you walked into the school wearing a thong, you'd be
[:[00:05:18] If the boobs are out, is that naked?
[:[00:05:31] Geoff Hylton: I get a lot of, I get a lot of flack for having mine out. There's a double standard down. I'm just saying in this town
[:[00:05:42] Geoff Hylton: Yeah.
[:[00:05:55] Geoff Hylton: it's hard out
[:[00:06:05] Usually these intros, I'll tell a story or something and do some announcements and get into the episode. Do we have any good Ned
[:[00:06:22] Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, we talked about a lot of stuff from back in the day, in the episode and
[:[00:06:47] You're getting to get somebody in trouble.
[:[00:06:55] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Do you remember? We skipped school to play King's one time at my house in long beach.
[:[00:07:03] Jeff Nesbitt: beers, 20 beers. The game, the game of
[:[00:07:11] Jeff Nesbitt: be hard.
[:[00:07:19] Geoff Hylton: but that's the kind of stuff that we skipped school
[:[00:07:29] Geoff Hylton: I remember one time I had. I told miss bono that, uh, Mr. Plumber needed me for something in his class. And I told Mr. Plumber that Ms. Bono needed me for something in her class. And I went home and got stoned, uh, and there was something going on that week to me at work. Like I took advantage of an opportunity.
[:[00:07:57] Jeff Nesbitt: pretty fucked up. Wait a minute, you [00:08:00] know, teacher needs your help. Like
[:[00:08:07] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, does that pick up this
[:[00:08:09] Right. But like, Pretty manipulative and deceitful. And, uh, me and plumber were close to at that point. I know it definitely hurt his feelings as it shattered. That's the
[:[00:08:33] Geoff Hylton: They're looking at. I have an adolescent in my hand that I'm trying to mold, like they, weren't trying to take advantage of us in any way, shape or form, just trying to help us
[:[00:08:48] Geoff Hylton: sacrifice. I'm not like, I don't know if he's sacrificed, but he put a lot of time on. He was really
[:[00:08:53] work
[:[00:09:01] Jeff Nesbitt: We had really great coaches, like as far, I mean, our record wasn't incredible, but they were very committed and they were just good people. Cool guys. Yeah, just really cool guys. I really feel lucky that we had them. Oh yeah.
[:[00:09:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Ned's got some moves. He'll put you in a presence.
[:[00:09:37] Jeff Nesbitt: Grab you buy by one and a half fingers and then put you on the ground. What is it? That one on the
[:[00:09:42] I don't
[:[00:10:04] That's what he, he liked to do that. He liked to do that. Shout out Bobby hope you're doing well. Yeah. And, , Ned was like, don't do it. Or, um, I mean, one more thing and I'm gonna, I'm gonna get ya. And he's like, oh, what are you going to do? And he like, did the thing, whatever it was. And then Ned started coming after him.
[:[00:10:38] Yeah. You just get it. Yeah. You just get to sounds a bit, a little late and they're like, yeah, they don't quite line up
[:[00:10:48] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. So we just see. Oh, there it goes. Bobby, he's going down. Ned got him. And then there's just like, not a lot of motion on the ground, but you can hear Bobby screaming as like, oh, Ned must have his hand.
[:[00:11:07] Geoff Hylton: where I was going with that. That's how they treated me, not just like Blair, uh, Ned, but like Blair and a bunch of the other teachers at the school. Like when it came to disciplining me, it wasn't like go to the office.
[:[00:11:37] Jeff Nesbitt: Things have changed in terms of physical contact, like in the football world. Remember when I used to walk around and smack. I think you might've actually done it to CJ. Definitely did. But I'm just one of your friends here.
[:[00:12:06] Geoff Hylton: just, I had any sort of feeling like that.
[:[00:12:34] I'd come up behind you and a
[:[00:12:38] Geoff Hylton: And I, I never took it as breath. Wasn't great to be, to be weird or anything like that at all. But then like once. It got brought up. You're like, oh yeah, maybe I did feel a little uncomfortable, but like, I didn't feel uncomfortable until somebody else told me that I felt uncomfortable.
[:[00:12:54] Jeff Nesbitt: naive about it. I'm about the same person I'm thinking you're talking about, which I know you probably probably are. [00:13:00] Yeah, he got a bad rap. I don't know. I honestly have zero knowledge of him ever doing anything wrong, right. Me too. But, um, he definitely had a reputation just because of the, like the very Joe Biden and ask touching.
[:[00:13:14] Geoff Hylton: it was very sincere. Me too. He was, it was a little tiny kid and he was always a fixture in my school life. That's how I felt. I mean said hello,
[:[00:13:29] Geoff Hylton: Uh, and I always kind of wondered too. I'm like, he doesn't look like a Facebook.
[:[00:13:36] Are you just trying to be? Nah, no, definitely not. He ducked to the
[:[00:13:45] Geoff Hylton: Yeah.
[:[00:13:57] Jeff Nesbitt: whacked probably of the good and bad sorts.
[:[00:14:18] I was like, do you know what that actually means? Because he was talking about. And he's like, yeah, it was something, something, and all, you really gets a slap on the wrist. I was like, you know what? That actually is from. Literally that's what they would do. And that was considered like the less harsh punishment.
[:[00:14:33] Geoff Hylton: but still the slap on the wrist was not a slap on the wrist.
[:[00:14:40] Geoff Hylton: a assault get slapped on the wrist and think of, it's just a slap on the wrist, the big ass ruler. I would hurt nerves right there. It's tender
[:[00:14:54] Yeah, you go to jail and some of them could probably use a slap on the wrist.
[:[00:15:11] Jeff Nesbitt: same. Yeah.
[:[00:15:20] And they're not all created equal. I mean, you can tell when there's a whack, that is just about nipping that behavior in the bud. And then you can tell when like, well, I can't anyway where there's a little bit of like you just losing control here, like that wasn't a directed anger. Yeah. You're not actually hearing
[:[00:15:40] Yeah. Right. Yeah. I think so too. You can tell too. And you'd like to see. That kind of interaction between a parent and a kid in public. Oh, it's the worst when you're like, oh my God, I know that shit's not over. No, he's going to get worse when they're like, you can feel the kids just like, you're
[:[00:15:56] That's how it was for me when I was a kid though, me too. [00:16:00]
[:[00:16:02] Geoff Hylton: there were smart or,
[:[00:16:18] I really, I did. I believed that it was actually like, my parents had to do it. They didn't have a choice and they don't enjoy it except I could tell my dad enjoyed it sometimes.
[:[00:16:35] Jeff Nesbitt: hard not to hit kids, bro.
[:[00:16:37] Geoff Hylton: hard to do horrible things. They're
[:[00:16:57] Geoff Hylton: Your food. I, you know, I [00:17:00] don't just for the record. I am compared to others. My kid experiences, no kids ever cost me a night's sleep. Let's put it that way. It'll
[:[00:17:14] Geoff Hylton: adopt
[:[00:17:16] Geoff Hylton: you do. Yeah. I mean, I don't think they'd give me one.
[:[00:17:21] Jeff Nesbitt: but uh, now you'd have to, you'd have to put in some time doing some volunteer work or something. Resume pad your resume a little bit. Yeah. I'm not doing
[:[00:17:30] Jeff Nesbitt: but about doing, just start hanging out at a church, work in the Sunday school. Yeah. I mean, most likely you'll run into a kid who just needs a home and you just be like, all right, come on, hop in or going home.
[:[00:17:45] Geoff Hylton: Yeah. I got a nice space for mountain shop and yeah. Put
[:[00:17:54] Geoff Hylton: water bucket privacy curtains. Yeah. It'll be
[:[00:18:00] Geoff Hylton: back to Ned.
[:[00:18:10] Jeff Nesbitt: No, it's just, just the podcast. Well, happy birthday, Ned, regardless, whatever it is. Whenever it is, I got her Ned story. Okay.
[:[00:18:24] A big point. Like everybody's going to call him coach Bitner. Oh yeah. You're not going to call him Ned. He's not going to respond to it. And he held onto that for a good day and a half. I honored it. Uh, some people did, but some people, , he's net
[:[00:18:43] Geoff Hylton: before a game once and, uh Ned was by the soda machine.
[:[00:19:07] And then I just turned around to feed it and refilled his soda. Um, but I could, I can understand not wanting to be. You know, and then just like the blatant act of disrespect to being like, no F you, I'm not going to call you, what do you want it to be called? I'm going to call you what I want to call you.
[:[00:19:39] Geoff Hylton: It's strange. Take me down a peg or two.
[:[00:19:45] Jeff Nesbitt: the problem you look up and it's like, it looks like you're doing okay. You're definitely eating well. Um, it's just like people eat normally. Well, you're eating enough. Yeah. People, people don't like that. They're just like, fuck this [00:20:00] guy and his big muscles.
[:[00:20:11] Geoff Hylton: When that lady in Fort George put her hand up, my shorts rung my Wiener, like a church bell. What? Yeah, I had just got off. So I worked at the Fort George and I had just got off a shift. I was the head prep cook, so I was upstairs and, uh, I go down to the taproom to have a beer.
[:[00:20:50] And one of them sitting down on the fireplace man. Or the seat in front of the fireplace? I don't know the mantles above the fireplace. I guess I digress. I'm standing there. [00:21:00] I'm just minding my own business and this lady takes her hand and runs it up. My pant leg up my shorts. And I'm wearing shorts and boxers, not like boxer briefs or anything, skin to skin, contact her hand, my Johnson, and then pulled on it.
[:[00:21:29] Jeff Nesbitt: being able to flex that might've hurt.
[:[00:21:40] And I was flabbergasted. Like didn't know what to say. I was just looking at her. I'll give her a reach around. No, I was, I was a little scared, actually. That's pretty invasive. Yeah. She looks me right in the eye and says, you know, you like it. And she was, I don't know, [00:22:00] fifties or sixties, which, I mean, I, I slept with a 57 year old once and it was great, but this particular one, I didn't, it wasn't feeling it.
[:[00:22:11] Jeff Nesbitt: defeated, flip that around. And, and you're a 57 year old man. And you reach your hand up a 20 something year old shorts and yank on her penis. People would freak out.
[:[00:22:29] Yeah. Or it's like, oh, like you don't have to worry about anything. Like, like, yeah, I totally could have defended myself and stopped, but at what cost, like local Fort George employee punches a middle-aged woman. And then they're like, I'm like, Hey, she touched my Wiener. And she's like, no, I didn't. We're going to, you're going to believe I got a
[:[00:22:51] This guy who punches old ladies or the old lady who gently caresses young men's penises.
[:[00:23:00] Jeff Nesbitt: that's really what it's all about. You gotta, you gotta pick and choose who you caress and you really need to ask them for their consent.
[:[00:23:23] Jeff Nesbitt: just like, I don't mind, let me touch me,
[:[00:23:27] I might be leading him on by not putting my foot down or wanting to be a jerk about the whole thing. Flattery feels good. It
[:[00:23:35] Geoff Hylton: Um, but it also doesn't feel good to be there's plenty of times I've been touched in my life where I haven't enjoyed it.
[:[00:23:44] It's so intense to be touched,
[:[00:24:04] Jeff Nesbitt: awkwardness of your encounter, but add the element of you're also in fear for your life.
[:[00:24:13] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, thank God. I think that's an Evolent
[:[00:24:20] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, dude. Imagine if you were actually like an evil person, how much damage you could do, man, you'd have to be sneaky about it or you can only do damage once stuff.
[:[00:24:38] Geoff Hylton: That's like the most important thing in my life, actually most important qualities to be nice to people.
[:[00:24:47] Yeah.
[:[00:24:58] Jeff Nesbitt: would rather be around people who are nice to [00:25:00] me then people who are good looking or rich or funny funniest close to the top. But if you're funny and mean there can be fuck.
[:[00:25:08] Geoff Hylton: There could be some funny and cruel. Yeah. So there's a lot of them. That was one of the reasons why this wedding this weekend was so good. Cause Ray and Allie are both such wonderful, nice people. Like. I've been to a lot of weddings and I love weddings, but they're not all created equal. Like you can feel the love at the wedding.
[:[00:25:41] Yeah. There really was. It was, it was pretty awesome. Plus a lot of
[:[00:25:46] Geoff Hylton: No, it's true. Set the mood, but like Alex, the Alex Mack wedding of love at that wedding.
[:[00:25:51] Geoff Hylton: favorite weddings. So I'm super excited for Colton Hannah. That's going to be a, just an awesome,
[:[00:25:59] Geoff Hylton: Yeah. [00:26:00] Yeah. Um, but then you kick like my sister in Ken's wedding. Yeah. Not a lot of love there. I thought it was great. I'm just kidding. You look to any of the Chautauqua. Yeah. That's a good place for it.
[:[00:26:18] I was just going to
[:[00:26:20] Jeff Nesbitt: old buildings that are like really well-maintained wood. They have like this quality to them where it's like a S a history stamp, like every time.
[:[00:26:32] Like, I've been to some funeral, there's two Luke's funeral was there. Um,
[:[00:26:37] Geoff Hylton: there. And I think some of those emotions, this is why it sounds silly, but. Get absorbed into the wood. I think so too, a little bit, whether that's just from, like, when people walk into that their body naturally picks up the sensory input of being in that place and it pulls all that emotion brings all that emotion back.
[:[00:26:57] Jeff Nesbitt: think there's a, just a collective [00:27:00] unconscious. I mean, I didn't come up with that idea, but the, I believe in it pretty strongly, and I don't think that we're all connected to it all the time, but I think that it to varying degrees and depending on where your focus is, Just what's available to you.
[:[00:27:14] Geoff Hylton: it all works. Some are connected better than others
[:[00:27:20] Geoff Hylton: just don't let them see it, even if they are connected. Yeah.
[:[00:27:29] Geoff Hylton: else.
[:[00:27:33] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, but we need to have some self, like it's, it's important that we know have identity too. It's it's all a balancing act.
[:[00:27:50] No, you know, it's like no spice day. Jeff Hylton. Um,
[:[00:28:01] Geoff Hylton: The, this reminds me of another story. He, I used to go over his house and watch football games and whatever, or we just hang out and talk or we'd go see a what guy come football game or something. Um, and he would cook dinner.
[:[00:28:32] That's I thought it was fancy. I just spit it out. I don't think I've ever had it at this point. That's chicken with a pocket and there's ham and Swiss cheese, cheese in the middle of it. It's all
[:[00:28:44] Geoff Hylton: the outside. It's delicious. And all day I was, I'd see him and he's like chicken quarter.
[:[00:29:00] Jeff Nesbitt: delicious. Yeah. That's something that a lot of coaches probably wouldn't do is like to take the extra time to get.
[:[00:29:11] Geoff Hylton: He would take us up to go see local areas, teams around the area playing and stuff. Cause
[:[00:29:19] Geoff Hylton: Even though we didn't really know that at the time, maybe he
[:[00:29:23] Right. Exactly. And I, I mean,
[:[00:29:31] Jeff Nesbitt: You don't even realize that when you're that age, that like he's human. He's not just a coach. He's got a wife and kids, little kids, right. At that time, he just had one, but, um, deal. Yeah.
[:[00:29:49] Looking back. And like when the, they were opening up the weight room in the summertime and like, somebody would have to all of that thinking about like, doing that now. It's like, you want me to come down, sit at the school for how long? Half [00:30:00] hour on a Wednesday night, sit there and wait for two kids to show up when nobody
[:[00:30:06] Like, I begged the kids to come in the first place. It's like coaching is a thankless. Yeah. I would
[:[00:30:15] Jeff Nesbitt: important. It's such a big deal to the kids who actually get. Be involved in sports, right?
[:[00:30:41] There was a point in my life where that was all I had and, you know, they gave that to me. And so that's who not, I might not be here if it wasn't for all that
[:[00:31:10] There's a lot of good people in there, but in terms of overall society, a lot of them are kind of strange.
[:[00:31:23] Jeff Nesbitt: all that aside. I'm just talking about it on a purely like coolness level when you're a kid, like you can put it a thousand different ways, but you want to be fucking cool.
[:[00:31:45] Geoff Hylton: It just gets away from there, from the gym. At one point, it's a basketball in my hand. He's like, I didn't help that's enough.
[:[00:31:52] Jeff Nesbitt: I remember him saying that you were the worst dodgeball player has ever seen in his life. God awful. I would
[:[00:32:01] I was like, yeah,
[:[00:32:15] Geoff Hylton: balls. If I had I lose accuracy, if I wanted to be accurate, there was no power and I would just, I get hit.
[:[00:32:21] Jeff Nesbitt: you had like the Anthony workless who could just, just fucking drill you with that.
[:[00:32:39] Yeah. And everybody's looking at you like, oh, he's not very athletic after all. Yeah. I think I punched the Bleacher right after Dodge ball junior high.
[:[00:32:58] Geoff Hylton: W a [00:33:00] 4 5 6, 7 2 noses, a hand, two noses, two hands and all four forearms.
[:[00:33:14] Jeff Nesbitt: yeah, just a, just a freak accident. Those swings are dangerous, man. Uh,
[:[00:33:29] I was, there was the Dodge ball crowd and the, the tag crowd. And, um, later I went to the tab. But that was after I broke my arms and
[:[00:33:40] Geoff Hylton: I want him to be in the air. I wanted to touch the sky. I was going to be the first to do a 360 on the swing. That was the goal
[:[00:33:50] Geoff Hylton: uh, orbital.
[:[00:34:01] Jeff Nesbitt: meaning every swinging kid's dream. Right. All the ones. I'm pretty sure tension on the chain the whole time. I'm pretty
[:[00:34:17] , but I hesitated and I slipped in any way. I fell broke all four, four, or all four of my arms for all four of my forearms. Yeah. I'm trying to show off for Bonnie and then she didn't even give me a kiss that day. Yeah, but I remember my dad picking me up in the, in the van that he picks dead people up in and put me in the back.
[:[00:34:42] Jeff Nesbitt: dad worked at the funeral home. Yeah. He owned it at the time was not just picking up dead people on, on random occurrences. Yeah. There was
[:[00:34:59] [00:35:00] So we're either turning left to go to the hospital. Right. And going home. And he turns right. And at the time was not cell phones or anything. And I started crying. I was like, dad, why don't you take me to the hospital? And he was like, Jeff, I got stuff to do today. Like, this is, you're not going to die.
[:[00:35:32] He'll be fine. Like his dumb ass fell off the swing. Um, I never felt so neglected the tears. Like why won't my dad take me to the hospital? And then he got off the phone and he lost that argument. So he took me to the hospital then, but probably for the best. Yeah. But I know looking back on it, I don't blame him.
[:[00:35:54] Geoff Hylton: Just a total attention grab on my part.
[:[00:36:08] That was the
[:[00:36:18] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, well, I was
[:[00:36:37] And so it slid up to around my, it was double under hooked under my arms and I made a full forward swing again. And I was, you know, I do something was dramatically wrong. It, your steaks on your feet, up in the air and dropped you. Yeah. And so when I got back, it swung me totally parallel. Parallel ground is dropped me snapped all four of my forearms, [00:37:00] Camille like, so I'm, uh, I'm looking at my left arm scream and freaking out, and Camille sees it and she runs over and grabs it.
[:[00:37:20] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah. You're in cats for a long
[:[00:37:26] Cause I didn't like needles and that was my choice. Most painful experience.
[:[00:37:37] Geoff Hylton: cat.
[:[00:37:51] Geoff Hylton: a, B 50? And here's the. Many many more, , everybody out there , spread the word, tell at least one person that doesn't know about ramble by the [00:38:00] river about rainbow by the river,
[:[00:38:04] Geoff Hylton: Yeah. Make sure you a hashtag online and all that kind of stuff.
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[:[00:39:01] Geoff Hylton: Ned.
[:[00:00:09] Nice.
[:[00:00:26] Jeff Nesbitt: I'm pretty much ready. I just got close curtains and stuff.
[:[00:00:38] Ned Bittner: powerful. Powerful shit.
[:[00:00:41] Ned Bittner: Don't have to do the check, check,
[:[00:01:05] Okay. So that Mike's pretty sensitive. It works best if you were about six inches away from it. Okay. So you can adjust that arm however you need to. And then do you want to wear headphones? Would you prefer, it's kind of podcasty plus you feel like you're in the zone. Okay.
[:[00:01:37] Almost every time for
[:[00:01:40] Jeff Nesbitt: It's a nice day. Warm. Oh, would you like a whiskey? Sure. I bought it specially for the occasion. Let's do it. I went in and I asked the lady like, what's, what's a good whiskey. Sipping whiskey, I think they call that people just need to have something in their hand.
[:[00:02:05] Jeff Nesbitt: there was ever intended use. I'd say that'd be, that'd be able to talk.
[:[00:02:13] Jeff Nesbitt: Hopefully less sweaty. That's usually not the case. Uh, how's work going
[:[00:02:37] Jeff Nesbitt: that looks about
[:[00:02:47] Jeff Nesbitt: All right.
[:[00:02:52] Jeff Nesbitt: Dennis. Cheers.
[:[00:02:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. [00:03:00] Podcasting,
[:[00:03:11] Ned Bittner: Tasted all night. That does taste good though.
[:[00:03:28] Ned Bittner: all that sounds real good. How do I sound good. Good.
[:[00:03:52] I med Bittner do solemnly swear that everything I say will be true and honest to the best of my.
[:[00:04:04] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, what? I forgot shit. I'm ruining my joke,
[:[00:04:09] Jeff Nesbitt: harmless. I don't even not going to do anything.
[:[00:04:27] welcome to ramble by the river. Thank you so much for being a guest. I've wanted to get you in here for quite a while.
[:[00:04:36] Ned Bittner: I've seen you on social media and I think it's a great story and say, good, good to see out there. You've always kind of been this even back when you're in school. I think with today's power of social media and people's platforms, they, they get on.
[:[00:04:51] Jeff Nesbitt: thing. Yeah. It's pretty cool. Are you podcast fans? You listen to them a
[:[00:05:06] Jeff Nesbitt: There's some good ones out there and there's something for everybody. That's the best thing about it is that it's, it's just an endless list of, of new podcasts every week. It's almost hard to keep
[:[00:05:16] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It's impossible. I barely even listened to them anymore. Now that I have one. Cause it's just like, anytime that I would be just hanging out listening, I just taken up editing.
[:[00:05:29] Ned Bittner: The times we live in, I think you're finding more and more people listening to other people's platforms and what they have to say. And you know, you could probably even catch my wife. I mean, we're driving somewhere and she's listened to some podcast about whatever topic it is, but it's out there.
[:[00:05:54] Ned Bittner: If you'll only predicted that when you're in my space 20, some years ago now, right.
[:[00:06:03] I don't know how he does it, how he can sit there for four hours and just keep the flow going. I edit this podcast. So it's like anytime there's LOLs or. Just anything that I don't want in there, like noises, extra banging noises, birds outside and stuff. There's just gets clipped out. They don't do any of that.
[:[00:06:21] Ned Bittner: He's a high passionate, powerful guy. Yeah. .
[:[00:06:27] Anything been a major shakeup?
[:[00:06:47] Jeff Nesbitt: people cleaning out their garage is now that they're when they're stuck in their house, probably
[:[00:06:51] And like you said, whether it's cleanups or remodels or new builds or whatever you want to say, all of the above, um, more people obviously had more [00:07:00] time to get rid of more things.
[:[00:07:10] Ned Bittner: Well, if you want to know, I haven't found a body yet.
[:[00:07:24] Ned Bittner: yeah, yeah. Um, yeah. Anything from stuff with brand new tags still on it.
[:[00:07:38] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, yeah, that's gotta be a one perk of that job. You get to keep those treasures
[:[00:07:57] Yeah.
[:[00:08:01] Ned Bittner: you, I wonder if you were like in a college town, city, military town, city. I mean, I, I just couldn't even imagine. Yeah.
[:[00:08:21] It's like everybody's moving out.
[:[00:08:29] Ned Bittner: We're having a hard time finding get rid of it. Oh really? Or places that take it. That was my next question. That can be challenging
[:[00:08:58] Ned Bittner: it's such a small fraction of the [00:09:00] whole world, or even the United States, you know?
[:[00:09:26] I love the burn. It fuel starter. Right.
[:[00:09:35] Ned Bittner: back on the last time.
[:[00:09:44] It's going to go start a fire. It's not worth the anxiety. I don't want to burn down the forest. In fact, that would really bum me out. If I burned down the forest,
[:[00:09:56] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Did they just break down too much in processing or [00:10:00] what is it? The,
[:[00:10:02] It's like, you know, you see stories about people shredding up tires and plastics or roads and other countries, but why hasn't somebody started that here?
[:[00:10:18] They're like giant 3d printers that print a building. Like they, they have concrete or in some kind of a medium in there. They could just mix garbage in with that and build houses out of it. Like it's going to be encapsulated in concrete. What, what difference does it make? If there's a milk carton in there,
[:[00:10:45] I think there is a, there there's a huge ceiling for opportunity for building something through recycling.
[:[00:11:04] Ned Bittner: Don't I pay like
[:[00:11:19] Well, just because it doesn't work anymore. I think I don't, they think I don't want it. No. So I've got five or six printers stacked up in my
[:[00:11:29] Jeff Nesbitt: new one, right? Yeah. They were out it's planned obsolescence. They were out about two years actually, but they're not expensive anymore.
[:[00:11:55] No, there's no good net. We come
[:[00:11:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:12:00] Uh, okay. So we did the oath, we covered printers. Um, so for any of the audience that doesn't already know this, which everybody probably does, you've followed my whole life. Ned was my football coach in ninth, 10th, 11th, and 12th grade, entire high school career.
[:[00:12:35] Oh yeah, that's true. The other day I was at a walk on market and there was a kid in there with a 68, which is my middle school Jersey. And I was like, Hey, that's my old Jersey. Like probably that exact same piece of material is they looked exactly the same thing up on the wall by now. I know, I don't know what they're doing, retire that thing.
[:[00:13:06] Ned Bittner: 68. Your, your
[:[00:13:11] You'd like 69. And I was like, yeah. And you're like, do you though who doesn't? And I was like, huh, I knew what 69 was. I just did the, the concept that, uh, an adult would make a sexual reference to me at 15. I just wasn't ready for it.
[:[00:13:30] Ned Bittner: Don't play that card
[:[00:13:44] It's very unique. It's very unique. so during those years, well, let's expand it a little bit. Um, who is the best athlete you've ever worked with? Even top three, top three. It doesn't have to be football. It could be, you did a lot more girls [00:14:00] basketball and you've had some killers in there. I've got a few people in my head that I'm guessing you might say, but that's,
[:[00:14:08] Singling out. Yeah.
[:[00:14:15] Ned Bittner: I don't, I don't like labeling because everybody's special and unique in different ways in different years when you coach them, you know, you appreciate different relationships.
[:[00:14:27] Ned Bittner: Yeah. So we want to go football or we want to go basketball. How about both? Okay. Should we start with football since that's where it started?
[:[00:14:47] He could do anything without really trying. And when he tried hard, he became phenomenal. Like he, he really lit up, uh, Jeff Hylton was quite an athlete too. Um, but my guess is Eddie, [00:15:00]
[:[00:15:07] Jeff Nesbitt: now?
[:[00:15:11] Ned Bittner: I mean, I would, we'd be up there right. With, you know, the rest of the top teams in the district with those, with those teams. I mean, you look at it, you look at size strength, speed numbers. Yeah. I mean, it's, it's really hard to watch what's going on right now through that those four years that we had.
[:[00:15:49] Ned Bittner: Yeah. If you want to start there, we'll go back to the players. But yeah, that, oh, five season when we started out six and oh yeah. You know, um, moods playing quarterback for [00:16:00] the first time ever, you know, playing wishbone
[:[00:16:10] Ned Bittner: somebody decided to go in a different direction and ultra running one of the two.
[:[00:16:24] Jeff Nesbitt: All little hands. Y'all say that
[:[00:16:29] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. I was, I was the center. He talked about my butt way too much.
[:[00:16:37] Ned Bittner: Those things usually just stay in the locker room. Right?
[:[00:16:50] And you just get used to it. You don't, when you start to not even think about it, it's kind of a nice little intimate friendship you have with the quarterback. but [00:17:00] MOOC talked about it a lot and like, you, you almost like you almost convince yourself, like they don't actually feel my balls. They're not actually aware of it.
[:[00:17:19] Ned Bittner: but that's more than I really wanted to
[:[00:17:24] The deep, the deep dive.
[:[00:17:46] One of Eddie's runs. And one of the ALEKS both had long runs for a tough one versus touchdown. They both get called back and, and, you know, we ended up losing and it was almost kinda like one of those things where that snowball just kept on getting bigger. We just couldn't get out of that [00:18:00] funk. You know, we lost two on Alaska at home, in a mud bowl, you know, and then we go up and play Friday Harbor on the turf.
[:[00:18:10] Ned Bittner: Well, if you remember the game, we actually, we, we stopped him. They go three and out and punt to us. And then I think, um, on our third play, I think Eddie breaks a long run for a touchdown and it pissed him off. It did. And wasn't, who's our kicker. Wasn't Bobby and the kicker is either Bobby or junior.
[:[00:18:31] Jeff Nesbitt: tackle. Bobby was a phenomenal athlete. He
[:[00:18:40] Jeff Nesbitt: guys that we had really? No,
[:[00:18:45] Jeff Nesbitt: He was solid, strong, strong guy, really strong.
[:[00:18:49] Ned Bittner: up on him seven zero, and then what they returned the kickoff back. And then after that it was just a slide. It was, it was rough, but it was a great experience.
[:[00:19:09] Ned Bittner: really where you kind of started out just offense only.
[:[00:19:18] Ned Bittner: So speaking of that, that's a thing of the past too. Really kids don't want to be on the team.
[:[00:19:27] Ned Bittner: I mean, just cause they're not out there or, you know, not playing, you know, it's part of being in that brotherhood.
[:[00:19:35] Jeff Nesbitt: primal. There's a part of our DNA that wants to group up. What else are you going to be
[:[00:19:50] You know, why not? You know, you get four years to do it and then it's all over.
[:[00:20:02] Ned Bittner: know, even through your experiences and you can pass this on to the kids that you have now and yourself, and you're going to try to guide them the best you can.
[:[00:20:17] Jeff Nesbitt: you know, and even though I actually felt like someday I might feel that way, but at the time you just don't have the perspective to put it in context. You don't get it. And I think you just can't get it until you're grown up until you can look back and say like, okay, compared to the rest of my life, those four years were really short.
[:[00:20:51] Like he just, and he was a all American collegiate rower. So like, he was very, very good, better than pretty much anyone on the team at the [00:21:00] time. So by, and I was like this guy, even though he wasn't a champion because I don't think Western ever won any men's championships. But, um, everybody has that. I think I just don't, I I've very rarely ever heard anybody.
[:[00:21:30] Ned Bittner: There's always that kind of like what if this would happen?
[:[00:21:42] Jeff Nesbitt: You went to a Wako high school, graduated. Uh, what were your main sports,
[:[00:22:02] And so the freshman year that that team played in the state quarter finals. Wow. You know, and then I think we finished second in league, my sophomore and junior year. And then we were one at the time, one day. And that's when everybody was one a that's when Ridgefield and Elma and castle rock and Monticiano and forks, and everybody was in there.
[:[00:22:22] Jeff Nesbitt: has, has have the population just grown or
[:[00:22:45] Keep it safe for schools that are smaller or different ideas type thing. So
[:[00:23:09] What do you, do you follow that research? What do you think about that?
[:[00:23:26] Um, be like you said, like even, probably even when you played, I mean, you know, we just stopped stars. You were still, you know, take a play off and get back out there, but now it's clearly like a big no-no. Yeah.
[:[00:23:45] Bam-Bam rammed into each other over and over again. And that was just like toughing it up, you know, and it didn't. And you didn't even think about it.
[:[00:24:02] Yeah, exactly. And that's how I grew up older kids on the block would throw you in the mud and line you up. But that's how you kind of learned how to tough enough through it. Yeah.
[:[00:24:14] Ned Bittner: called bullying, right?
[:[00:24:27] So yesterday I was standing outside with my family and I was picking Rose Rose buds, or like rose hips, the little balls off a rose plant, picking them off the rose plant and throwing them at Elsa. Elsa is 10. She's a girl I'm clearly much larger than her. And you know, physically sh there's not a lot she can do about this situation.
[:[00:25:12] Unpleasant for you for my enjoyment is bullying. That's what I think bullying is. So because Elsa is not a bully, but she likes to have fun with people. Like she's super intelligent and sometimes it can be annoying because she'll get in. She's just as a, as a fun exercise, try to get into somebody's head and just, you know, push their buttons and stuff.
[:[00:25:50] Ned Bittner: Also like a respect thing. Yeah. If you respect that person, that's giving you bad time. It's might not that, but if you have an issue with that person that's bothering you, then that, you know, [00:26:00] turn the tables, turn that way.
[:[00:26:02] Jeff Nesbitt: you liked the person you liked the
[:[00:26:06] Jeff Nesbitt: exactly. I had relationships like that with a lot of people, both directions where like people who were older than me, who would flip me all kinds of shit and I loved it. I had no problem with it. I found it endearing.
[:[00:26:38] It's just like, it's not going to hurt him. It would leave a hand print. And it was just like something I would do. And I would do it to people who didn't even know me that well as just like a way like, Hey, you're in the club, like, Hey, we're we're friends. And I, and I remember getting reactions sometimes from some people and it was always in the football world.
[:[00:27:09] Ned Bittner: It wasn't called bowling in there. What was it called? It was called or given the underclassmen a hard time.
[:[00:27:16] Jeff Nesbitt: Let's haze. I haven't even heard that term for a long time.
[:[00:27:31] You know, helps you to draw your lines, but in today's time, it's the push button access to spread the word that it just gets. I don't know. Yeah. Over analyzed, you know, for everything that everybody's got to sensitive and, you know, but trying to still be respectful for everybody's feelings.
[:[00:27:52] It's even tough as like an, uh, an outsider with when you're, when other people are dealing with this stuff. Like kids are in a [00:28:00] situation and you're in, it's hard to be like, so what, let it go forget about it. Move on.
[:[00:28:11] Or do you want somebody to skill that you kind of get away with whatever and not care? Yeah,
[:[00:28:21] Ned Bittner: Probably a little bit more of the firm fair and consistent, you know, hold you accountable is going to challenge you, push you, but still be there for you in that, be there for you.
[:[00:28:53] That's silent to you. You know, maybe that's when there's the issue when you're not getting. Instruction [00:29:00] consistently, you know? Yeah. But, you know, flipping the side coaching girls, cause that's what I've done for the last 18 years. You know, girls are, are challenging. Girls don't want to let you down though.
[:[00:29:35] A lot of them come back now and say that have gotten a little bit softer. Maybe that's because of how things are now a little bit too.
[:[00:29:46] Ned Bittner: So, but it kind of happens, you know, you've got to change and adjust to the times too a little bit, you know, and that's true.
[:[00:29:54] Jeff Nesbitt: and be Joe slapping girls
[:[00:29:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Right. Yeah. And he poked me in the belly [00:30:00] with a pencil
[:[00:30:02] Jeff Nesbitt: coach Yeah. But, but I will say I still see him reaching out to people to this day on Facebook.
[:[00:30:08] Ned Bittner: many people did he impact in his lifetime up here? And a lot of coaches that we've had in is probably similar every, but , how many of those have actually been. Reflected upon acknowledge say, Hey, you know, we, we thank you for what you've done, ? And like you said, there's people that reach out to those kids, or they still have somewhat of a relationship or it can be just a random message, , no different than you and I sitting here, like, Hey, let's get together.
[:[00:30:47] Jeff Nesbitt: go by. Yeah. It's a bit, it's a pretty powerful relationship, especially for kids because it's one of the first authority figures that is not a teacher.
[:[00:31:00] Ned Bittner: Unfortunately, and I think you're finding less and less teachers that do want to be involved with kids outside the classroom. Yeah. It's dangerous. I mean, that's how I got my opportunity. Which one? Well, in coaching in general.
[:[00:31:15] Ned Bittner: Well, I mean, when I got done with college, I came back and I, I, um, started actually, my first job was a C squad basketball job girls or boys, boys. And I think we started at five 30 in the morning for practice. But that's when school started like 7 45. Yeah. Now it's like, what?
[:[00:31:36] Jeff Nesbitt: it's better for kids brains is what they're saying.
[:[00:31:54] And, um, but then I, you know, volunteered for, um, Casey Johnson. Who's now the football coach at [00:32:00] Adena. He was my fifth
[:[00:32:09] Ned Bittner: We can get ahold of them for you. That'd be awesome.
[:[00:32:24] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, I remember. So when he was my teacher, the high school football players would like drop in the classroom all the time.
[:[00:32:50] I put that on. It's such a high petty. That I'm like meeting those guys and everything. By the time I actually got, even to middle school football was just like all, I [00:33:00] wanted to be a part of it. And not even because I loved playing, I just loved the culture. I loved everything about it. It was just such a, like, it's a, I'm really comfortable in violent context.
[:[00:33:21] Ned Bittner: and be reckless and punish somebody else in a legal form. Right?
[:[00:33:33] I just, I'm not worried that someone else is going to cause me pain. I'm not afraid of that. Speaking
[:[00:33:40] Jeff Nesbitt: Some of my favorites, some of my favorite times ever.
[:[00:33:46] Jeff Nesbitt: all week and five days of just heat,
[:[00:33:53] Jeff Nesbitt: We've worked killing it at that camp too time over there. But like our team was really good. I remember we were killing it in the tug [00:34:00] of war and like the lineman, race drills, Bobby, Chris lib, he, that guy could push a sled like nobody's business. Right.
[:[00:34:11] And I'm sure you guys probably drove. How about the time that Josh. Bricks out his boxing, boxing gloves, and he starts boxing. Some other kid friends. I
[:[00:34:28] Ned Bittner: That was the whole camp came around thinking, thinking of the trouble we could got into, if there was social media back then, right?
[:[00:34:35] Jeff Nesbitt: That,
[:[00:34:41] Jeff Nesbitt: I, I remember now you mentioned it that's, that's
[:[00:34:46] Jeff Nesbitt: and burns that I experienced that first year at that camp.
[:[00:35:06] Ned Bittner: you know, you were saying like culture.
[:[00:35:19] Jeff Nesbitt: cause of COVID. Now obviously it's like nail
[:[00:35:26] Completely together as a team, maybe, you know, but then switching over to basketball, you know, I've put on that battle, the beach basketball tournament for, I think I'm on year 15 now at that. And you know, teams love just coming here. I mean, who doesn't like coming to the beach? I know they don't all come to the beach just for basketball, but you know, I started the podcast with, you know, how has this affected? Well, when we couldn't do anything, I'll revert back to that is you really kind of understand what is important in your life and things that you maybe take for [00:36:00] granted or things that you miss out, or, you know, all of the above. But when we couldn't go do any of that, girls were bummed.
[:[00:36:28] Cause I got BNB camps. The girls just stay in the room with, with the alumni girl or whatever and who knows what goes on in there, but they're having a good time
[:[00:36:46] It's just like, it's not the same as everyone is like in a place together and we have to be here. So we're going to hang out.
[:[00:37:02] And I'm sure in some ways, for everybody in some way, definitely for me, you know, you maybe read tune in on what is important to you and what you want to focus on. But, um, coaching is a grind. It is hard work. It's, it's a mental grind too. You know, the fun stuff is when you're at your games and traveling and stuff like that, you know, the practices and the preparation and dealing with things that people don't always see that you're doing with, , is a big mental strain, you know, but in the end it's all worth it.
[:[00:37:37] Ned Bittner: Probably trying to get everybody on the same page for the same vision, you know, and that could be the coaches, players, families. The main focus is the coaches and players, because the old terminology doesn't matter what, you know, I've said it, you know, when we're in the locker room, doesn't matter what anybody says outside the locker room, it's what we need to focus on and do.
[:[00:38:15] Jeff Nesbitt: Did you ever, did you ever do any coaching on the younger kids for like your dog?
[:[00:38:41] And the kids were, how often do you see it's always the same dad coach in the same teams, shout out Rob Cunningham. And there's a lot of them out there. There's a lot of them. I know there's a couple of them probably would like to just show up to the game and just watch their kid play and have fun and smile.
[:[00:39:07] Ned Bittner: maybe if we can get one thing out there, it'd be great to see some people, you know, step forward, especially in our community.
[:[00:39:31] Jeff Nesbitt: and they really need it.
[:[00:39:46] Ned Bittner: they gotta have an outlet. They gotta be able to be kids,
[:[00:39:50] You get to, you get to see people and be with
[:[00:40:04] Jeff Nesbitt: through a screen. No, it's, it's, that's such a limited experience of the world. Right. And it's great.
[:[00:40:10] Ned Bittner: wonderful world. I'm guilty for it in some ways. Cause that's just kinda how it is. But when we have that advantage, you know, it's like you, I see you posting pictures all the time about going out through the woods and finding mushrooms or just hiking our family, all, especially my wife and I, we try to go, you know, we've done the eight Ks waterfall.
[:[00:40:39] Jeff Nesbitt: out there. Yeah. I'm pretty much anywhere on the peninsula, anywhere in Pacific county.
[:[00:41:07] Uh we'll do
[:[00:41:11] Jeff Nesbitt: Long beach. Yeah. It's a blast. Yeah. Were you excited when they said they were gonna put that in? Or were you one of the people who was like, don't do it
[:[00:41:20] Jeff Nesbitt: thing.
[:[00:41:34] Ned Bittner: City of long beach? The whole thing. What about through
[:[00:41:37] Ned Bittner: State parks? Yeah. I'd say that's something that could improve a little bit.
[:[00:41:41] Jeff Nesbitt: lot of scotch broom. There's just a lot of overgrowth. Ian. This controversy in particular is problematic for me. My
[:[00:41:53] Jeff Nesbitt: That means more volunteers like that.
[:[00:42:12] There has
[:[00:42:18] Jeff Nesbitt: I dunno. That's the ramble man ramble around. , but we'll see, we did coaching. We still probably we'll talk more about coaching. I love, I love coaching. I think it's a great topic.
[:[00:42:53] Ned Bittner: who told you about that?
[:[00:42:56] So, yeah. Um, growing up, I, you know, actually [00:43:00] I'll just start with this, you know, my, my mom and her family started out riding horses when they were kids. And when I started, when I was young kid, yeah. I, um, you know, back then, now it's just barrel racing or junior rodeo rodeo type thing, but you know, back then, you know, now it's called pattern speed, speed racing association or something like that, which Dominic and Sophia participated in this year.
[:[00:43:31] Jeff Nesbitt: It's like stock shell, but you ride the dog and we you're riding the
[:[00:43:45] That's where they get right next to the steer. And they have like a stick with a wand and it's got like some paint on it. And just like, like, like, um, you know, regular rodeo when they're still wrestling, when the guide is slides down off onto this deer and wrestles and down to the ground, this is kind of like [00:44:00] the markup to it to before that happened.
[:[00:44:10] Jeff Nesbitt: It's like pin the tail on
[:[00:44:15] Jeff Nesbitt: for a cow
[:[00:44:19] Jeff Nesbitt: horns. Yeah. Sorry. Sorry.
[:[00:44:22] Ned Bittner: that, but no. So, so junior rodeo is kind of like that, where the association that we, um, grew up in was there was like, you know, seven indivi, individual events, some team events. But, um, but yeah, I did that all the way through my senior, my senior year in high school, even the summer after my senior
[:[00:44:40] It looks like a
[:[00:45:02] And um, if my memory is right. For time state champion barrels, , in Washington. Wow. That's
[:[00:45:13] Ned Bittner: race. Oh, I don't know if she would want to
[:[00:45:19] Ned Bittner: The videos to compare. I don't show them to anybody.
[:[00:45:29] Ned Bittner: yeah, that was, that was a good memory. To be honest with you. A lot of good memories without, you know, my mom still writes to the day. Okay. Um, do you still
[:[00:45:40] Ned Bittner: relationship with maybe not in a daily contact, you know, but like Sophia and Dominic qualified for the same event that I wrote into it's over in Wenatchee.
[:[00:46:04] Cause you know, everybody needs some type of an outlet and there's a lot of people around here that do ride horses. Yeah.
[:[00:46:15] Ned Bittner: It's eat
[:[00:46:21] Ned Bittner: well, horses break down those still.
[:[00:46:35] Ned Bittner: Um, good question. I'll ask
[:[00:46:41] okay. So hypothetical situation, you have to choose one pair of peninsula, brothers to fight to the death. Ian is your partner. Who do you choose?
[:[00:46:55] Jeff Nesbitt: we go against? Yeah. You have to pick a pair of brothers from Pacific county,
[:[00:47:05] It's a
[:[00:47:09] Ned Bittner: Nesbitt brothers fight. I dunno. That's a kind of a good question. That's kind of off the wall question. That's the kind of like Ian, he's the, the younger brother, the bigger brother.
[:[00:47:26] Would you say that's the truth? That's my, well, he's never
[:[00:47:35] Jeff Nesbitt: Right?
[:[00:47:41] Jeff Nesbitt: So you still have the memories of whooping his ass when he was seven years difference.
[:[00:47:52] Ned Bittner: Yeah. But then when he went and played over at Eastern Oregon football, he was pretty big boy
[:[00:48:00] Ned Bittner: Yeah, but yeah, he was respectful.
[:[00:48:13] Jeff Nesbitt: Let's see. Who are the brothers? We could pick. I let you choose the chockers too, because Cody's not local, but he was here last weekend.
[:[00:48:39] Ned Bittner: It was tough. I don't know. Harold brothers.
[:[00:48:45] Yeah, they got
[:[00:48:49] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. So you got inside information? Yeah. You hit go sideways on that knee. Sweep the leg, drop him, sweep the leg. Yep. And then just go right for the eyes with Tim.
[:[00:49:00] Jeff Nesbitt: being respectful.
[:[00:49:04] Okay. You ready to move on to. Sure. Um, what are you most excited about in the crypto space right now?
[:[00:49:19] Jeff Nesbitt: very knowledgeable.
[:[00:49:37] That's the only place. I mean, yeah, it is the only place. Um, is it volatile? Of course it is. That's
[:[00:49:46] Ned Bittner: Wait, I kind of look at it is, you know, I've been investing in crypto for about three years now and no different than going to the casino and putting some money down in.
[:[00:50:08] Ned Bittner: me. I mean, by that is if you go and you know, I put a couple hundred dollars down in blackjack or whatever, it's like, you know that you could lose it, but it doesn't really happen too often though.
[:[00:50:42] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Especially now we're still in the beginning phases of this shift
[:[00:50:57] Jeff Nesbitt: account. I probably somewhere around there, [00:51:00] I think it was up almost a 40% of people are interested in investing who
[:[00:51:07] But, but boy, if you come in and right now, which now's a great time to pick a handful of different cryptos and when that number doubles to let's say 20%, your investments. Good. Naturally good at double. If you just hold still and don't freak out about the highs and the lows and the sideway trading and et cetera.
[:[00:51:42] Ned Bittner: It's it's a good, if you've got some extra cash, it's a good thing to try.
[:[00:51:49] Jeff Nesbitt: before, it's better than just leaving it, sitting in a, what are you
[:[00:52:06] The next stimulus check, we put more into crypto, you know? So the way I look at it, it's free money. Yeah. Unless you need it for something else. Yeah. Well
[:[00:52:19] Ned Bittner: if you, I mean, I'm sure you noticed it too, but when all those stimulus checks came out, that's when the law of crypto started going up because people were doing the same thing.
[:[00:52:26] Jeff Nesbitt: Smart move. If you can see where, if you could look to the future and see like, okay, a lot of wealth is moving to digital and it's, it's going to continue to that way. It's, it's turned into a black hole, like Michael Saylor talks about this a lot, but it's reached a point to where there's so many people investing in it that it's just pulling in more money all the time.
[:[00:52:52] Ned Bittner: I kinda agreed with you. And Ross kind of said, Bitcoin is kind of like the digital gold, it's a safe [00:53:00] place to put some money, you know?
[:[00:53:13] Jeff Nesbitt: it's you probably at 1200. We're like, God, why didn't I buy it? I'm paying this double price when really it's like so low. And I
[:[00:53:29] You don't need to own a whole Bitcoin.
[:[00:53:50] You can buy them on salon art.io and they're NFTs non fungible tokens. It's basically just a picture of a dog and they're trading cards, [00:54:00] essentially. There's 10,000 of these trading cards. Each one is different and they have traits on them and different various percentages of rarity. So you just, you buy them based on what you think they're going to do.
[:[00:54:31] So it was like 260 bucks. Ideally you'd see the floor price would go up from mint price. You'd never be able to get at that price again, if it was a successful launch, but this has been not that, , which sucks for my first NFT, but honestly, it's, it's been worth for the experience of learning through because I'm engaged in the community on discord.
[:[00:55:09] , you just have to figure out where it's going to be because some of it's going nowhere and others is just going to move.
[:[00:55:24] They're like, until you do it until you buy an NFT till you get a crypto wallet and make your first purchase, you don't really know what you're doing. Yeah.
[:[00:55:41] You just
[:[00:55:46] Jeff Nesbitt: Or did you collect as a kid? I did. You still haven't? I do. Oh, so how'd you do on that?
[:[00:55:58] Oh yeah. Yeah. [00:56:00] So, and with everybody's podcasts and YouTube videos, there's all these people doing these box breaks and hobby cards, you know, basketball, baseball, football, well, my wife's cousin informed me that I should probably go through some of my boxes because there's a big boom going on. Well, lo and behold, I started going through them and PSA car.com is kind of like the main card evaluator.
[:[00:56:39] I'm still waiting for him to come back. That's just the, uh, the overhaul of, of COVID everybody started doing this. Um, but what has happened with the card industry is people during COVID who were sitting at home, getting their unemployment check and free money, they'd go to target and Walmart and all these stores, and they'd buy everything off the shelf, [00:57:00] everything.
[:[00:57:05] Ned Bittner: wax is huge. It's huge. So then what they would do is they take them home and they'd go to their eBay sites or whatever social media sites they have. And they'd sell them for two X, three X, four X of what they just bought them for. Wow. And they'd also do like, you know, bids on eBay and stuff like that.
[:[00:57:43] Jeff Nesbitt: card or Michael Jordan.
[:[00:57:50] Ned Bittner: you would want like the 86 and 87? I don't know
[:[00:57:55] Ned Bittner: through
[:[00:58:03] No, it doesn't matter. It's just rarely on that specific piece. You want
[:[00:58:11] Jeff Nesbitt: Jake. My brother had a rookie OJ Simpson card that he had in a like plastic sleeve, top loader with, uh, a Char's ARD card. That was a holographic Pokemon cards or big time. And some kid ripped it in half, both of those cards at the same time.
[:[00:58:34] Ned Bittner: That us, our cards worth a lot of money. If it's a concern, I thought
[:[00:58:40] Ned Bittner: Sam Johnson's tan, when you send your cards to PSA, there's other companies too. And they grade them. So there is, you know, the corners, the shine are, they centered, and then they put them in a sealed case.
[:[00:59:18] It's all just
[:[00:59:22] Ned Bittner: just a piece of cardboard. Right. So what we're saying is it's just a rock. Right, right. But Gold's only worth $1,800 an ounce right now.
[:[00:59:33] Ned Bittner: Well, do you watch the show gold rush? No.
[:[00:59:39] Ned Bittner: about a year and a half ago. I think gold hit an all time high, almost $2,000 an ounce. It seems like it
[:[00:59:47] Ned Bittner: No, it goes up and down just like cryptocurrency and just like the value of everything else.
[:[00:59:54] W when would there ever be a bear market for gold?
[:[01:00:02] Jeff Nesbitt: announce. I mean, like what, what would lead somebody to liquefy their investment in goal? Like why would they do that?
[:[01:00:22] You know, like you guys, you and Ross were talking, you know, um, who knows? I mean, it's hope it's an idea of, this is what the dollar amounts on this dollar, but if something happens, there's no value to it. So why not put some money in precious metals or cryptocurrency or whatever, and just spread yourself out and prepare for that?
[:[01:00:44] Jeff Nesbitt: gold. The, you know, the gold standard.
[:[01:00:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:01:00] kind of down right now. Last couple of weeks, everything, even Chris, Tom a year is generally pretty bad from our there's so much of an unknown
[:[01:01:06] Jeff Nesbitt: at two.
[:[01:01:14] Ned Bittner: before. Well, I think everybody is figuring it out and they want a piece of it. Right. You know, I don't think you're ever gonna be able to take it away. It's there to stay.
[:[01:01:26] The United States has enough people to support a perfectly healthy crypto market. The way I kind of see it playing out is that eventually there's just going to be endless coins, different, different tokens, different coins. And we're going to live in a world where you have like exchanges that are exchanges will be way more popular than they used to be.
[:[01:02:01] Ned Bittner: or what are your three main crypto wallets?
[:[01:02:10] And they, they do a lot of different coins and the fees are low it's it's really good. , how much crypto
[:[01:02:19] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't watch TV, but is there a
[:[01:02:23] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, they've gotten bigger lately. I've noticed I've had it
[:[01:02:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Wow. I'm pretty sure it's a Chinese company. I should look that up though. Um, but yeah, so it was Tik TOK and that's doing just fine here.
[:[01:02:56] And I just like to have everything ready to go just in case. [01:03:00] Cause everything on crypto is so time dependent. It's like your timing is everything right.
[:[01:03:13] Have you ever gotten the free crypto off for Coinbase? I mean, people don't realize that you just sign up an account, watch a few videos, ask a couple of questions, get free. Crypto. My
[:[01:03:31] Ned Bittner: bucks right now if you want it to, she has more than that.
[:[01:03:58] I haven't watched it. It's [01:04:00] called
[:[01:04:21] I would say
[:[01:04:24] Jeff Nesbitt: But I wouldn't be surprised 20 million in crypto is not that much money.
[:[01:04:35] Jeff Nesbitt: player. Who, who accepted his half of his contract in Bitcoin.
[:[01:04:41] Ned Bittner: it. It was, um, oh, I can't remember his name right now.
[:[01:04:47] Ned Bittner: in here. There's a handful of them that are making an announcement that their contract is happening. Bitcoin.
[:[01:04:55] Ned Bittner: you know, I've, I've a coaching friend.
[:[01:05:15] Jeff Nesbitt: a lot more than it was. Imagine if you put it in Selana right. Or Ethereum,
[:[01:05:21] Jeff Nesbitt: coin.
[:[01:05:40] I'm not going to buy it. I'll wait till it goes back down. Yeah. Now it's 10 times more silly
[:[01:05:48] Jeff Nesbitt: to all of them. It doesn't happen to most of them, that's the exception,
[:[01:06:02] Jeff Nesbitt: have, I have like a list of favorites that you think are really going to go the distance like 10 years from now, which, which of these
[:[01:06:11] You know, salon was one of them, you know, everybody's talking about , you know, that that's like, you know, you look like Twitter or any social media, of course, doge coin, which that's all social media based, but a lot of people are pushing Cardona.
[:[01:06:33] Ned Bittner: outside looking it's backed by community.
[:[01:06:44] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Come on. Frenchies get that community together. That really is what the problem is with that specific token is that, uh, the mint price was to Sol. It was a, the floor price was like six. I think [01:07:00] I have to like six salon for the cheapest one.
[:[01:07:20] Then people see that and like, oh, people are trying to take a loss on this. They just want out that means this is a piece of shit. So it, it was bad. It's still going fairly bad.
[:[01:07:31] Ned Bittner: people like don't want to talk about crypto?
[:[01:07:49] Hum. And they don't want you
[:[01:07:54] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Like, well, because it's risky. People don't want, people want to be [01:08:00] perceived as solid, competent.
[:[01:08:13] Jeff Nesbitt: bit.
[:[01:08:38] Ned Bittner: Yeah. You can't even make a wise decision about that. It's not going to be a, let me deposit it today and take it out tomorrow, twice as much. It's not going to have
[:[01:09:18] And then as soon as it goes a little lower, I just pop it back over to Bitcoin. I make a bunch of profit and I didn't do it. Cause I was like, yeah, but what if it goes back up tomorrow? Like what if I goes from 50 to 70, then I'll lose all of that juicy profit and I'll have to buy in at a loss. So it's like the classic dilemma of trying to short a stock.
[:[01:09:45] Ned Bittner: Well, it's like, you know, what's your rule when you go to the casino table too, are you a double-up person or do you want a triple up?
[:[01:09:52] Ned Bittner: not get it, but you know, I mean, that's another, it's the same kind of view.
[:[01:10:05] Jeff Nesbitt: yeah, mine started with curiosity. How'd you get involved in the
[:[01:10:17] What's this invisible, you can't hold it. You know, you can kind of sense
[:[01:10:26] Ned Bittner: You know, I'll do I need $600 to get into it, you know, but you don't, you know, and you know, it's you did then though, Dan, you, I didn't
[:[01:10:38] Yeah. Okay. Yeah. I didn't see, I didn't have Coinbase until just a couple of years ago. I didn't even know it existed. Uh, so what kept me from getting into crypto for a long time? Really? I, I saw it come out when it came out, I was like, oh, that's a great idea. Can't wait until that's a thing. But clearly now is not the time to get in.
[:[01:11:09] Ned Bittner: in a different position, you know, maybe that a hundred bucks is important to you that month.
[:[01:11:18] Jeff Nesbitt: no terrible idea to invest in crypto and your paycheck to project. Right?
[:[01:11:30] Jeff Nesbitt: it's kind of, it is really fun.
[:[01:11:49] Ned Bittner: enjoyable.
[:[01:12:10] Jeff Nesbitt: Cause they're not reached the limits yet.
[:[01:12:28] But the only thing you can do is kind of like move it around to something different. You know what I mean? Yeah. It gives you like three
[:[01:12:34] Ned Bittner: and that's it, that's it. And you have to wait until even touch. You know for you until what? Another 25 years, right? Yeah. I
[:[01:12:45] So, I mean, you know,
[:[01:12:55] Jeff Nesbitt: that's what I liked about it. The best is that it does give you autonomy, financial autonomy, [01:13:00] where you don't have to be dependent on banks.
[:[01:13:18] Right. It never turns off.
[:[01:13:28] Jeff Nesbitt: Or, I mean, banks do lots of things that are just completely shady that would never fly if it was like fair, but I don't know. They're a necessary evil, I think, but things are changing.
[:[01:14:02] Government blockchain that designated for currency, or if they would just like, try to piggyback on, get some of that polka dot blockchain, it'd be smart. Right. Do you ever get into polka dot? I do
[:[01:14:12] Jeff Nesbitt: a little bit. I like polka dot. I really do.
[:[01:14:15] Jeff Nesbitt: like the name. That's how I started. That's honestly, that's how I got into most of the coins.
[:[01:14:32] Ned Bittner: of those, like even a year ago from now that you kind of saw? I was like, ah, I haven't really heard much about it. You know? And it's maybe it was a dollar or whatever.
[:[01:14:42] Jeff Nesbitt: Sheba? He knew I did
[:[01:14:45] Jeff Nesbitt: everybody's getting it, but you can get,
[:[01:14:49] Jeff Nesbitt: That's that's what they want you to think that I don't get it. I don't get the main points. What
[:[01:14:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:15:00] I know this is, you
[:[01:15:05] Jeff Nesbitt: know. I know. And it's, it's
[:[01:15:17] Jeff Nesbitt: that's 10%, right? Yeah. Or
[:[01:15:20] But again, it's it's about the community.
[:[01:15:30] Ned Bittner: again, it'd be just the same thing as like, oh, why didn't I just put a little
[:[01:15:35] Ned Bittner: for a year.
[:[01:15:54] You just tell me to get some,
[:[01:16:16] Are they just going to do the meme thing? And if they are, maybe it will get you rich, but I don't know,
[:[01:16:34] Jeff Nesbitt: really?
[:[01:16:41] Ned Bittner: get a little bit tonight.
[:[01:16:48] Ned Bittner: just bought some Cardona the other day. I loved it. It was down to like two bucks.
[:[01:16:54] A month ago. It will be back to three very soon.
[:[01:17:01] Jeff Nesbitt: I think the so Cardona was hot and it was just cranking. And then all of a sudden Salana passed it and everyone started talking about Solano. Right. Kind of forgot about Cardona a little bit, but it'll be back.
[:[01:17:22] Ned Bittner: but I think, I think it's a safe investment.
[:[01:17:32] There's not a lot of branding done for Cartano like Hodgkinson or the, the guy who's in charge of all that. It's just kind of like a Squatty guy with a beard. Well, no
[:[01:17:56] The visa just bought
[:[01:17:59] Ned Bittner: 150 grand [01:18:00] things going to happen when they start accepting these other ones. You know, like you said, just set yourself up for accessibility and be able to use crypto when you want it and how you want it. Nobody's going to tell you how to do it. And
[:[01:18:18] Ned Bittner: I don't know if I'm gonna get in the NFP thing. I need
[:[01:18:34] Ned Bittner: I don't know, logos,
[:[01:18:47] And I think the NFTs is a very good idea. So I had this idea, green crab, European green crab. It's an invasive species, right? Ravages the coast. It's been very hard [01:19:00] on the east coast, really all over the place, anywhere there they're found in the United States. We have them in our little backyard, estuary, Willapa bay.
[:[01:19:26] And they are going to cause drastic changes to our ecology. The state has almost zero funding available to. Work on control. They do want to do research so that they'll help organizations do research on collecting data, but they don't want to actually control them, which is a problem for the people who make their money on the bay, like the oyster growers and things like that.
[:[01:20:26] So you, like, let's say you're somebody in, I don't know, Louisiana and you know, New York and you have a little extra money. No, nothing against the Louisiana. Just imagine it with a lot of poor people. Um, and so you you're like, all right, well here, I'm looking for an NFT, boom, here's this crusty crabs. Oh, you guys will help the environment, environmental stuff that actually translates to real world progress.
[:[01:20:58] Ned Bittner: local like wildlife [01:21:00] NFTs? Well, hopefully they buy them too. Kim can, you could probably come up with a humpback whale and
[:[01:21:13] And it's just the actual NFTs are not that great. They're just small pixelated pictures of trees with different traits on them, different colors and sunglasses and whatever characters and people are buying them. And there's like, I'm in the salon network if anyone hasn't figured that out already. Yeah.
[:[01:21:54] And I don't know some amount of Cartano, but it feels so [01:22:00] weird to be talking about collectible gnomes, um, as a 32 year old man. Um, but that's the world we're living in Frenchies um, but yeah, where was I? Trees. So when you buy one of these NFTs for a soul tree costs you to Solano, it's like, uh, you know, right now, probably 2 30, 2 30.
[:[01:22:22] Ned Bittner: I don't know. Should I
[:[01:22:49] And I think people will get behind ideas like that, where it actually does something in the real
[:[01:22:56] Jeff Nesbitt: there you go. You build a whole metaverse, that's what they are actually doing. I stole that idea [01:23:00] from soul trees. They have a S uh, the metaphor list where your tree that you buy gets to go, and you can go there and you have everything is digital.
[:[01:23:30] Like, do you play video games? Not anymore? Do you wish you did so that when the NFT games come out, you can be good at them. So I actually have caught myself feeling like God, I wish I would have tried a little harder or video games. I don't, I'm very bad at them, almost as bad as I am at basketball, but if there was suddenly a way to make millions of dollars in basketball, I'd be practicing.
[:[01:23:52] Ned Bittner: basketball. And after.
[:[01:24:14] Oh, it is Bitcoin. How does that work?
[:[01:24:42] So it's going to take a while. Yeah. But it's similar to like, you know, you can pass, I can pass that onto you and you can do it. And then I get a little bit more because you're doing it.
[:[01:24:53] Ned Bittner: scheme. Well, I mean, however you want, I mean, it's a referral.
[:[01:24:59] Ned Bittner: I [01:25:00] haven't gotten, I haven't gotten enough to where I can withdrawal any, but I think you need to do a lot or you need to have a lot of people in the community.
[:[01:25:36] Oh, is
[:[01:25:40] Ned Bittner: Yeah. You can see the words that there's like over 25 million people that are trying to get pie. That's what it's called pie pie on their phone. And again, I can share my link with you and you can do it too, but I also get more extra pie.
[:[01:26:03] Jeff Nesbitt: but it's an investment in
[:[01:26:14] I mean, why not? It's kind of like that risk reward. It doesn't cost me a penny. It just uses a little bit, my phone battery a little bit. And for the last two years I've been earning in this.
[:[01:26:27] Ned Bittner: to nothing, but you're, you're on your phone every day anyways, to check something.
[:[01:26:34] Jeff Nesbitt: keeps me on my phone a little bit.
[:[01:26:37] Jeff Nesbitt: It doesn't cost anything to get a new phone. My phone is completely false.
[:[01:26:46] Yeah, you really, I mean, even in the crypto world, the two FAS and your passwords. Yeah. There's a lot of money sitting right here. Right. I'm losing
[:[01:26:59] Ned Bittner: Have you [01:27:00] written down all your stuff? Not that I want to come find it, but
[:[01:27:03] Ned Bittner: this drawer.
[:[01:27:09] Jeff Nesbitt: I double backup. So I have two spots where I keep all of my like, handwritten,
[:[01:27:17] Jeff Nesbitt: all this. You need to be very, very careful with where you keep your key phrases.
[:[01:27:23] Ned Bittner: that if something happens to us yeah. You know, our spouses need to know like, oh, they got, how much money do they got in here? You know? I want it, you know, but yeah.
[:[01:27:38] Quite a bit too. I think if I die
[:[01:27:46] Jeff Nesbitt: to that. I hold onto the wall. Yep. Got it. To now I will, before that. Definitely worth more life. But now I don't know, life
[:[01:27:57] Jeff Nesbitt: It's a very strange thing. It feels [01:28:00] weird to sign up for think about your own security for your family. Yeah. It actually felt really good. I would've thought it would've felt kind of like anxiety provoking, but the idea of me being dead while that is a little anxiety provoking thought of my family, getting a check for a bunch of money, it was kind of, at least you
[:[01:28:19] Yeah. Um, of course they, your time with your family is super valuable and of course that doesn't make up for it, but at least that they wouldn't want to stress. So
[:[01:28:32] Ned Bittner: Well, yeah, it makes it work. So you don't stress. You don't have, you're not going to be worried about you're not having that salary come in.
[:[01:28:40] Jeff Nesbitt: Pretty is no fun. It's it's, that's, I'd say it's one of the worst things for your mental health. And if you're dealing with a major loss on top of that, you're, you're fucked. So it's probably good to have life insurance. I got Melissa life insurance too, which also felt weird. You guys are good to go.
[:[01:29:20] So it's good to probably talk about it and that we acknowledge that it's going to happen for everybody, but it's, it can still be pretty uncomfortable. Yeah. Yeah.
[:[01:29:33] Jeff Nesbitt: I was like, uh, probably 14, 15, or actually even younger than that early days of the internet.
[:[01:30:03] And it was whether you would like your, your disposition and it, the options they gave you were optimistic, pessimistic or sadistic, which don't seem like they're all in the same category. Like you can be an optimistic status. Like that just means you're, you know, you'd like to hurt people, but you think it's going to turn out.
[:[01:30:44] He doesn't know the accuracy of this thing or whatever it was. It was, we didn't have AOL. That was a little bougie for us. We were just on that, century link dial up century till probably back century. It was century tale, but, um, [01:31:00] terrible company. Um, we put in my dad's info and so it was like may, um, 2001.
[:[01:31:33] And, um, yeah, I don't remember how I got with that, but I remember the death clock thing being, oh yeah. Mortality. Um, I remember being a kid and being like, wow, this is actually legitimately upsetting my adult father, this, and it was weird to me. I was like, how could you be so upset about something on the internet?
[:[01:31:53] Ned Bittner: passed. It was a , skilled. Painter. Yeah,
[:[01:32:05] Ned Bittner: old 89 prelude,
[:[01:32:08] Wow. You had two of those cars. You drove that prelude for a long time. A
[:[01:32:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Wow. That was your, your car for basically your, like your twenties then you Fraley
[:[01:32:28] Jeff Nesbitt: years.
[:[01:32:39] Ned Bittner: No, it's I got the prelude. It was a silver prelude and tinted the windows and it was a good car. Yeah, they were cool. Um, took it to college with me and took it to central for the first year.
[:[01:33:13] He did good work. He did
[:[01:33:19] Ned Bittner: I bet probably a lot of good memories down there too. Huh? Yeah. Yeah. He always had your guys is, you know, youth football team photos. I remember seeing those
[:[01:33:32] Ned Bittner: going again.
[:[01:33:34] Jeff Nesbitt: Chris Keno and Jamie, I know my dad was one of them, Butch Smith. They were big. Um, there was a few more back
[:[01:33:49] Jeff Nesbitt: right. Way more cheerleaders and football players. It was
[:[01:34:01] Jeff Nesbitt: the Peterson, that was another one of them.
[:[01:34:10] Ned Bittner: high. That's how it was when I was in school. We didn't play tackle football until seventh grade. And I think there's some pros and some cons I think the younger flag football thing. That's a good concept now.
[:[01:34:32] Jeff Nesbitt: best way that they could do it would be the, that to teach them the game without contact, learn how
[:[01:34:40] Jeff Nesbitt: connect with another person.
[:[01:34:57] Yeah. I think flag football is good for the younger, [01:35:00] younger kids
[:[01:35:03] Ned Bittner: didn't have solar. We played flag football when I came back in the men's league over in Astoria.
[:[01:35:15] There's not, not that many options anymore here anymore.
[:[01:35:33] Jeff Nesbitt: Remember seeing softball tournaments at the park, like every weekend all the time, but, um, yeah, we didn't have Sawyer and football the last few years just because when all that CTE research came out, it kind of freaked me out a little bit.
[:[01:36:03] Ned Bittner: that's a tough one. Cause then you become the protective parent. Of course you want the best interest for the kids.
[:[01:36:24] Ned Bittner: Like, and they really limit that stuff now. Yeah. Not that blocked a lot of practices, but it seems like they barely even touch each other at practices now.
[:[01:36:32] Jeff Nesbitt: that'd be boring.
[:[01:36:37] Jeff Nesbitt: was all I wanted to do is I would just like, I would endure everything else just for the times when you get the, who is the one,
[:[01:36:48] Jeff Nesbitt: um, I'll answer this.
[:[01:37:18] I wonder what he's doing these days. I haven't seen, I haven't
[:[01:37:27] Jeff Nesbitt: I think I saw
[:[01:37:31] Jeff Nesbitt: I always really liked those guys, Michael and Ray and RJ
[:[01:37:37] I mean, what about the weight room? Yeah,
[:[01:37:44] Ned Bittner: I was going to get to that, but I mean, like that was the culture too, right? I mean, some kids took it more serious than others, but it was at least you did it and it helped.
[:[01:37:53] Oh, I, in particular, remember a day, like a couple of weeks after I had started lifting and this is like 10th grade, [01:38:00] probably. So it started for the year, like in the fall, um, or mid summer, I guess it would have been. And I remember you coming up to me and be like, dude, I need you to everyday. When you come in here, do two sets of overhead squats because your, your squats are.
[:[01:38:36] So thank you for that tip , my squats are still terrible. , but
[:[01:38:43] Jeff Nesbitt: God. How did that even happen? Where did that money come from?
[:[01:38:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:39:00] probably.
[:[01:39:03] Ned Bittner: I'm talking like the stadium? Well,
[:[01:39:14] Ned Bittner: sad, but yeah, the, the underneath, yeah, no, the nautical Clement was like a, a grant matched by the.
[:[01:39:46] Jeff Nesbitt: weird.
[:[01:39:51] Ned Bittner: know, like, you know, like you were saying, moving onto like people that are still lifting now, like, can you imagine Jeff playing football right now? [01:40:00]
[:[01:40:01] Ned Bittner: can. You know, I mean, you know, Alex Martin, you continue to lift
[:[01:40:07] He did for, I think for a year after he, uh, after he was out of high school, right? Yeah. I w I, I was never as fired up for four athletics as those two, but the, I understand the benefits that I got from it. I just didn't ever have the natural drive or ability. Those two are a couple of
[:[01:40:31] Like they come out of high school and then all of a sudden they're a runner. Yeah. Like you, I mean, just having, or people are a diehard fitness person, or they're lifting. It's like, if you would have done that in high school, imagine what would have happened. Right. But it's, again, it's. Something that they enjoy doing now.
[:[01:40:55] Jeff Nesbitt: dunno. I think running is a lot easier than football [01:41:00] overall. Yeah. You just do one thing I can run, but football is a mentally very, it's a very tough sport.
[:[01:41:17] Ned Bittner: like 10 gassers at practice
[:[01:41:25] So people would not expect me to be in the front of the pack. So that was like the gastros, especially gassers, because that's, that's a distance that's I can wind up and really just go, right. I can stride it out decently. So that's where I got a little bit of my glory was like the gassers, but God, the,
[:[01:41:46] I hope
[:[01:41:48] Ned Bittner: so. I don't know. They probably don't know what, when is,
[:[01:42:06] It's just like
[:[01:42:09] Jeff Nesbitt: and I bet they can't touch it. You can't touch the kids at all, especially not their butts. That used to be a real big right. Things have changed. They have, yeah. I don't see a bunch of butts slapping going on anymore.
[:[01:42:24] Probably not.
[:[01:42:29] Ned Bittner: They're in shock then now. Oh really?
[:[01:42:33] Ned Bittner: have me for a second. No, under center snaps.
[:[01:42:39] Ned Bittner: Avoid that.
[:[01:42:55] Ned Bittner: I'm proud of you.
[:[01:43:01] Jeff Nesbitt: He's also had a lot of plateaus just physically, like in his lifting career. I don't know if he ever wanted to be a bodybuilder, but he starting to look like one. , but he went like five years without getting much bigger.
[:[01:43:23] Ned Bittner: Yeah. That's a good problem. You still work out? No, I don't. Well, I mean, occasionally it's now. Um, I'm more of a, let's go out for a walk or a bike ride person.
[:[01:43:34] Jeff Nesbitt: me too. Sadly, I don't want to be the
[:[01:43:55] Let's go outside and walk or something. I don't want to go inside. And you know, [01:44:00] it,
[:[01:44:03] Ned Bittner: Yeah. For years you have lifted and working out.
[:[01:44:14] Talk about that.
[:[01:44:25] Jeff Nesbitt: really. I never have been opened him once in my life. I took soil there last week or two weeks ago. Um, and he was talking about how it's like, they're playing with older guys and stuff.
[:[01:44:38] Ned Bittner: So it always was when I was that age, I mean, you went up and played against the older guys.
[:[01:44:52] It's it's, it's brave to go in there and play against people who are bigger or even play with people. Cause you're gonna let
[:[01:45:04] Jeff Nesbitt: for you. Yeah. And that's how the really good players get crafted.
[:[01:45:15] Ned Bittner: what you do. Yeah. You know, if you want to be good at something, you can't just show up half the time.
[:[01:45:28] It's just like, I could easily make a job out of this podcast out of being a crypto trader or, uh, are out of my actual job. And what I mean by that is I could easily spend eight hours a day doing any of those things. And if it made me enough money, I'd be happy to do any of them. Sure. But, um, right now it's not the case.
[:[01:45:49] Ned Bittner: I think the perfect job is when you can do something like that, right. When you enjoy what you're doing and don't mind doing it. And exactly.
[:[01:46:08] Like there's a perfect job for everybody out there somewhere. It's just harder to find it for some people. When
[:[01:46:28] Yeah. It's just not going to show up on its own. Yeah.
[:[01:46:37] Ned Bittner: when they got to drive over to Dutch brothers just to get their coffee now. Right?
[:[01:46:45] Oh no, no. Wait, how old is, how old is your younger one? Sophia's 13 is 30. Okay. I was gonna say she's not driving. It is. Yeah.
[:[01:46:58] Jeff Nesbitt: place. Yeah. [01:47:00] Yeah. That's weird that that's something I wouldn't have predicted as the coffee, coffee stand.
[:[01:47:05] Ned Bittner: stock in Dutch? No, I did.
[:[01:47:09] Ned Bittner: Yeah. Well, no, no, no. They just announced like three weeks ago that Dutch was available on the exchange. Oh, they did an
[:[01:47:24] What the heck? Yeah. If your daughters, you know,
[:[01:47:29] Jeff Nesbitt: might as well, I'll drive 30 minutes for a burrito, but not coffee. I can get that in a pill form. Yeah.
[:[01:47:44] Chico's
[:[01:47:47] Ned Bittner: what happened to that
[:[01:47:56] Ned Bittner: Again, that's the whole tradition culture, right? Yeah. I mean, yeah. [01:48:00] I mean, for years, you know, and that was the spot. That was the spot. Even when it was before they did the remodel, it was just a little shoe box.
[:[01:48:09] Jeff Nesbitt: hold in the wall from, in the boys' bathroom, you could see outside
[:[01:48:16] Jeff Nesbitt: I have like, so there I was probably five or six years old, maybe even younger when they remodeled. But I remember the old Chico's in like the way you remember stuff as a three or four year old, like everything was gigantic.
[:[01:48:40] Ned Bittner: into
[:[01:48:53] Yeah.
[:[01:49:01] Jeff Nesbitt: different. Yeah. I'd love to have diarrhea. Let's go get taco bell. Speaking of, uh, random road trips.
[:[01:49:09] This is show , where they take these old tattoos and they do ups. They don't remove them. They cover them up with a new tattoo. And I've, I've noticed you've had a tattoo on your calf. Um, it was a Nike swish back in the day, but what is it now? Speaking of, I got
[:[01:49:28] Let me see that thing up here.
[:[01:49:36] Ned Bittner: It's
[:[01:49:40] Ned Bittner: Just kind of like my nautical theme that I have
[:[01:49:45] Ned Bittner: those baskets. Yeah,
[:[01:49:49] You just can't trust them. Nope. Cannot track. But you
[:[01:49:56] Jeff Nesbitt: too. You know, there's nothing wrong with that. No. Well, we have our fight to the death. [01:50:00] We'll all see all
[:[01:50:02] Jeff Nesbitt: And then actually I've seen Ian's, it's huge ,
[:[01:50:12] Jeff Nesbitt: rope that is pretty nautical. What the heck? Your dad's a fishermen. Why not?
[:[01:50:27] Yeah. Wow. What are the, to those old salts cells? What else they do, right?
[:[01:50:46] Other than fish, when he can't fish, he'll do sports. But you know, that's a good problem. It is. He's a great kid. There's really some
[:[01:50:55] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Actually, that's where I'm trying to get him to go. I'm trying to tell him, like, dude, [01:51:00] your industry is dying. You need to be a savior. Like you need to go.
[:[01:51:21] Ned Bittner: Yeah. I mean, between the fishing and the oystering industry.
[:[01:51:26] Jeff Nesbitt: tourism. Exactly. And we don't want it to depend completely on other people outside influence for our money. We need to be able to produce. Do you know Dale Beasley? Yeah.
[:[01:51:40] Jeff Nesbitt: He's somebody I really admire because he puts in.
[:[01:51:57] Ned Bittner: born. Good, good family members [01:52:00] above him.
[:[01:52:01] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. I think, I mean, he's got parents who can help them out in this area. And it's just, he's got a lot of the right components, but I'm worried about, about the future for fisheries.
[:[01:52:28] Or they're like, we don't so much care about the economy. We're care. We care about the natural environment and habitat, and then numbers like the quantitative data. And we need somebody in between. And there's very few people now in fewer all the time, because this generation is going to go away and the new generation is not interested , in fisheries.
[:[01:52:50] Jeff Nesbitt: be it's expensive. Yeah. Huge barriers to entry. But my kid. Infiltrated the world. He's part of the community and he's [01:53:00] young and, and he can recognize problems. And I, I honestly try to tell him, like, look for problems that you want to solve.
[:[01:53:27] I just had no idea, I don't know this next 20 years is going to be kind of a critical time for fisheries and subsequently our community economy. I think it's really important that we, that we kind of bring up some people who can speak on the situation and explain to legislatures, like why we need money, why we need funding, why we need the regulations to be favorable to the economy and not just to protecting wild stocks, which is, sounds like a lost cause to me, That's a whole nother podcast, [01:54:00] right?
[:[01:54:21] I am not going to get it. I'm not going to get into it, but I might have to have someone like Dale Beasley on here talking about it. So we, we just hit two hours. I'm really not done, but you might have to come back and do a second one. We can do that. We didn't even talk about the youth camp. I was, I was going to talk about how I saw you tackle Bobby Richards and use some ninja moves.
[:[01:54:50] Ned Bittner: Yeah, we can talk about that next time, but we'll talk about that next. Is there anything else you want to quickly cover? Just,
[:[01:54:59] [01:55:00] Actually. We can do it again. We'll do it again. This has been great. Thank you so much for coming by really, really fast two hours. Yeah, that's really quick. All right. Closing words for the show?
[:[01:55:14] Jeff Nesbitt: now. Don't don't flatter me props to you.
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