Big Fish in a Small Pond with Hannah Clardy

Hannah Clardy

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[00:00:04] Thanks for tuning in i'm your host jeff nesbitt

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[00:00:14] Geoff Hyltons: Never seen that shirt

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[00:00:21] Geoff Hyltons: I don't like the color now. It hurts my eyes.

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[00:00:34] What are you going to do? I was very distracted.

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[00:00:42] Geoff Hyltons: very now I've been, I haven't really been paying Devon too focused on my. Yeah lately. Um, the war and Ukraine. Yeah. That's always something inflation, right? That's a big phrase going around right now.

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[00:01:03] Geoff Hyltons: pointing.

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[00:01:06] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh really? Yeah. I got close, but not still, not quite, I pay insane amount in taxes. I haven't just taken out automatically, just so I don't accidentally fuck myself somehow. Right. Smart. Yeah. And it works. ,

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[00:01:21] Jeff Nesbitt: It's also really critical information is

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[00:01:32] Uh, sucks. Totally unnecessary. Completely just didn't know better. Nobody like they should at least make you aware of the consequences. What could happen? What will happen if you

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[00:01:48] We have, they don't even teach us that. No, it just teach you. You're going to have to pay taxes at some point, somebody will tell you don't worry. Right. And then your life just starts. Yeah.

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[00:02:02] Jeff Nesbitt: You're like, Hey, I was supposed to do that. We talked about that a little bit in this podcast that we're about to introduce here.

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[00:02:14] Yeah. Anyway, on this rainy spring day, how you doing Jeff?

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[00:02:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, welcome to the show, everybody. Welcome to another episode of ramble by the river. I'm your host, Jeff Nesbitt. And we've got a great show for you today. I'm joined in the studio today by our good buddy, Geoff Hylton friend of the show you here, Jeff, on several previous episodes. We also like to mention Jeff on just about every.

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[00:02:45] Geoff Hyltons: what crystal didn't like my Capri pants. I just want to address that. Uh, they're great. When I go work out later today, I'm going to pull these up to my knees. Like you liked them. I dunno. I felt like it was shot was being taken.

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[00:03:04] Geoff Hyltons: They were like torn pants that were torn as he got bigger. I

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[00:03:07] Jeff Nesbitt: say that's what happened with your pants. Dude kinda made them, it used to be normal sized pants and you became a non normal size human and they became the breeze.

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[00:03:15] Geoff Hyltons: But I didn't buy

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[00:03:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Capri pants. Well, neither does the whole Bruce banner owned some nice slacks, but the Hulk wears a man's Caprice. You see, you see the John Deere. That's just what happens. today's guest is Hannah Clardy also known as Hannah Whitlow back in high school.

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[00:03:52] Geoff Hyltons: Vaguely. I remember, I think I remember Scott A. Little bit more.

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[00:04:01] Geoff Hyltons: even he dated Jesse something earlier. Jamie. Jamie.

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[00:04:07] Just a couple, a couple of topics we cover. We, I mean, We do hit COVID briefly, but really don't linger on that. Talk about a little bit, the nuts and bolts of podcasting. Talk about my new political party called gun toting liberals, the history of the island of Guam, uh, canceled names like Alexa, Karen.

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[00:04:40] Geoff Hyltons: fucked it up. How did I get, I

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[00:04:46] Men's work versus women's work. Flower arrangement. Um, how to think about thinking, and that's something that's

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[00:04:54] Jeff Nesbitt: Megan, the stallion got shot in the foot

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[00:05:01] I think he was trying to do a gun trick is what Hannah said. I don't actually know

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[00:05:06] Jeff Nesbitt: the baby. Did the baby, did his house. I thought the baby shot somebody in.

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[00:05:20] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, he was

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[00:05:24] Jeff Nesbitt: heard. Well, all I heard was from a Dave Chappelle joke. It was a

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[00:05:39] Oh, it was a home intruder.

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[00:05:45] Geoff Hyltons: Okay. This one in the leg. Oh. Uh, and you can hear them in the background, like, ah, and he's like, yeah, you gotta come get, he's like, that's what you get for trespassing.

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[00:05:55] See what I thought is that the baby shot a man in Walmart very well. Could've had Dave [00:06:00] Chappelle did a thing about it. Like that was his whole point , debatably shot and killed a black man. And, um, didn't hurt his career his career was fine

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[00:06:10] Jeff Nesbitt: man. Cause look at the baby. Now his career has taken a tumble the last year or so,

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[00:06:18] Jeff Nesbitt: but from the, no, I mean, that was the fallout from that. Brush right under the rug. I'm not too familiar

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[00:06:23] Jeff Nesbitt: anyway, uh, the life and times of the baby is something we will get into later on the podcast.

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[00:06:33] Geoff Hyltons: it's career still has big enough of a profile that I have noticed when I'm not looking for that, for that kind of stuff. It's still relevant in some capacity. How

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[00:06:48] But Google doesn't know that he's like, well, we got little baby. We got dub AB

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[00:06:54] Jeff Nesbitt: out there somewhere. Oh, there's gotta be man. There's gotta be. And then how many Lil's on top of that? Oh man. So many. [00:07:00] Lil's it go

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[00:07:06] Yeah. Yeah. They been that, that at tricks played out.

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[00:07:12] Geoff Hyltons: Yeah, but he was little

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[00:07:15] Geoff Hyltons: That's true. Somebody came along and said, well, who do you think who was the first? I want to say it was little John. That's what I was going to

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[00:07:20] Jeff Nesbitt: I mean, he's Robin hood. He's

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[00:07:22] that

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[00:07:27] Geoff Hyltons: Who's that? Roger Miller singing

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[00:07:32] Geoff Hyltons: now. King of the road,

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[00:07:34] Geoff Hyltons: Yep. Oh yeah. Did, uh, did a bunch of other ones.

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[00:07:54] There's not a lot of people who

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[00:08:10] I'm blinded by the light, you know, that song electric light orchestra, right?

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[00:08:17] Jeff Nesbitt: No, no, it's it's electric light orchestra,

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[00:08:33] Geoff Hyltons: thing now he's garbage.

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[00:08:38] Jeff Nesbitt: the boss of me. Nope. Never has

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[00:08:43] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, what's going on in the world? What else we got? This is going to be a short intro because it's, the long podcast. Just wanting to get on here and explain what's going on in the world because people don't know Jeff.

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[00:09:01] Hmm. A couple of thoughts about the podcast. Hannah's got a really good attitude. And I think if you're, if you're listening, take, try to take some pointers from her because she's genuinely happy. She seems to really like her life. And she explains pretty much right away in the podcast, how that kind of philosophy came about where it comes from and why it works and why it is actually kind of hard to do.

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[00:09:37] those are the, those are the, that gets the most hits you, you look, make a face like you disagree.

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[00:09:45] I'm not posting videos of me failing, like missing lifts.

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[00:09:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, you're right. .

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[00:09:59] Jeff Nesbitt: speak for [00:10:00] all. Then again, you know, social media is enormous. There's a lot of complaining though.

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[00:10:18] Geoff Hyltons: I don't buy into that. Like if you've got a good life, I own it and let it other people's shitty life be there.

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[00:10:24] Jeff Nesbitt: It's not going to make their life any worse. If you have a good life, I don't see how it could. And if it does, that's their problem still. Yeah. They need to fix, they

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[00:10:43] And a hundred percent taking, taking the good parts of it. And like, if you lose weight or something, you want to post a picture, I'm all for it. And if it bothers you that somebody else posted a picture, somebody losing weight, like I. For you to

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[00:10:59] And [00:11:00] unoffensive like, I do my best to not offend people however possible, but they're going to still be offended sometimes. And I do my best to be not offended by other people. And also they're still going to offend me sometimes.

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[00:11:15] Jeff Nesbitt: offended. Definitely just the way it goes,

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[00:11:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, I could probably figure it out. I don't get offended that often. When's the last time you were offended or

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[00:11:32] can't recall. It couldn't have been that offended. I'm way

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[00:11:39] Geoff Hyltons: I'd much rather be nice and get along with somebody than to. It's like that. Oh, one plus one is three. I'm like, cool, dude, wherever you are, whatever you say. Okay.

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[00:11:50] I mean like, people are pretty, it's pretty easy for people to convince me things about myself. Like, dude, you're a piece of shit. Yeah. You're probably right. Who says that to you? Who has [00:12:00] nobody, but I'm saying if they, if they did, I would probably consider it. I would at least evaluate it for like, is there, are they possibly right?

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[00:12:16] Guess what my dog did. Yes. So I took the family to an Easter egg hunt over at Brett's. Uh, no, just down the road at the families, uh, at our Melissa sisters family's house and we didn't bring the dog, which I was fine with. And Melissa in front of poppy was like, should we bring poppy?

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[00:12:47] Geoff Hyltons: there were a couple of times when I was watching her when I was thinking, okay, we've got, yeah,

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[00:12:58] Yeah. I just wasn't in the mood for that on [00:13:00] my Easter, it would remove any possibility of a calm day.

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[00:13:09] Jeff Nesbitt: chickens. Yeah. Exactly. So I w I was like, no, I'm not bringing a bitch.

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[00:13:39] What you put her in the cage? My wife had gone in first and unlocked and let her out of the cage. Let's see. He was just in the house. And so she runs past me out the front door and into the open door of my pickup. And I'm chasing her. Cause I don't want her to run off down the road or something.

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[00:14:11] And she, she ran into the truck, took a full pay. On the backseat. Oh my on my leather seat. And then proceeded to have the zoomies, you know, the zoomies. Right. She had the zoomies in the truck through the pice, splashing it all over every seat. She pissed on all five seats of the truck.

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[00:14:33] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It was stinky slimy dog. Must-see yeah. And she was covered in it also. And so now, then she ran back in the house. I just like fucking, I just go throw her off the bridge. I was so at a loss of like how bad of luck, how fast it all happened too. I was just like, I just, I was

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[00:14:56] And all of a sudden you opened the door and you get five seconds later, [00:15:00] your trucks

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[00:15:07] Geoff Hyltons: told like, if that was a. That would've deserved an ass beat her. She has totally made a fool out of you and punched you in the balls and a piston your

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[00:15:15] Yeah, but she was happy to see me. And after, after it was all done and over, she came and cuddled up with me and she's pretty lovable when she's in that mode,

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[00:15:30] And every once in a while, I think back and I'm like, she can't. Yeah to be a

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[00:15:40] Geoff Hyltons: girl. She ended up down at Madeline's the other day. She does like the wrong. I know. And I, uh, she figured out mom and dad lived two streets down.

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[00:16:02] So I don't know how I've been able to. I dunno, I'm just gonna have to tie her

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[00:16:09] Geoff Hyltons: does what she wants and I try and let her do what she wants, but, uh, I don't want her to get hit by a car. She got that fake knee.

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[00:16:16] Geoff Hyltons: keep thinking about.

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[00:16:28] Jeff Nesbitt: of my life. You think they were worried about you being in a ditch somewhere?

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[00:16:35] Jeff Nesbitt: something like that.

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[00:16:40] Geoff Hyltons: under the, under the wall cut river bridge. So some of

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[00:16:48] Geoff Hyltons: Stubborn enough to pull through. Yeah. Yeah. I made it to the one-on-one

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[00:16:55] Geoff Hyltons: Even me, I remember thinking I need to take a back road or something like that. Uh, and I was [00:17:00] feeling pretty determined, but after about 30 minutes, You know, your, your logic comes back

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[00:17:10] Yeah. They they're wearing like spandex and weird helmet. No, the little

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[00:17:29] Jeff Nesbitt: I remember being in Bellingham on the phone with you, like you had your cell phone and I was just like, oh Jeff, my dye.

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[00:17:39] Geoff Hyltons: for it. Yeah. When I'm, when I'm determined, but no, a little, that's why I work out a little working out. It brings me back down to center. It

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[00:17:48] Geoff Hyltons: didn't go home for a couple of days, but yeah, it worked out.

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[00:18:51] My guest today is a local from the long beach peninsula area, but she currently lives in Astoria. She's just an overall cool. [00:19:00] She's a mom, she's a wife and she's a friend of mine from back in the day. And I really enjoyed sitting down and talking with her during this podcast, we talk about all kinds of crazy stuff.

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[00:00:00] Hannah Clardy: Cause people have COVID

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[00:00:05] Hannah Clardy: seem like it as much anymore. I feel like it's better. I've been out to a bar the last couple of weeks. I

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[00:00:20] Yeah. I haven't gone to one for a few months and everybody stopped going. I went yesterday, it's on zoom and there's like three people there . And apparently they're doing the testing has gone way down. There was like, there was zero people getting tested at the clinic yesterday and two the day before that.

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[00:00:39] Hannah Clardy: are going down and then everything else probably let's hope. They also, I mean, I think it's here too, but, uh, Anderson stopped wearing masks at schools last week. He's like, I don't know if I

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[00:00:52] Let's get sound checks done first. Okay. So actually mine sounds decent. Turn up the gain a little bit.[00:01:00]

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[00:01:25] Hannah Clardy: Everything is better after

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[00:01:30] Save your

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[00:01:34] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh man. If you've got some good podcasts, there's nothing

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[00:01:42] Exactly. We should probably do all the things I will keep talking.

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[00:01:55] So then be aware so that if you're going to yell in the micro laugh really hard, it will peak it. [00:02:00] Um, but for the most part, you want to be about a fist away, five or six inches. This is about perfect and just, you know, watch those plosives, pop, pop, pop in the peas. Um, it's pretty easy and I have a feeling you'll be a natural and, um, yeah, give me a pledge of allegiance or something.

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[00:02:18] Hannah Clardy: I can't remember the pledge of allegiance off the top of my head, uh, uh, turkeys.

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[00:02:38] so I'll be like sneaky about it. Maybe they won't notice. I'm just like over here.

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[00:02:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Three to four pictures of you, laughing is what it is. [00:03:00] What I really like, um, or, or smiling or looking a gassed. Those are good ones too. Like how could you say that? Those are all great. And those are all great. Okay. So I'm just going to leave this here and it'll be ready when I need it, but, um, I'll wait till we're on a good groove.

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[00:03:18] Hannah Clardy: Good. Good. I it's, I've been I'm. My voice is getting shaky now. It's funny. It's so

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[00:03:30] Hannah Clardy: feels good. And I'm warm. I'm pretty actually celebrated my birthday yesterday.

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[00:03:34] Jeff Nesbitt: to close that curtain real quick. Okay.

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[00:03:43] Layers of insulation

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[00:03:50] Jeff Nesbitt: and loud.

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[00:03:59] Jeff Nesbitt: in [00:04:00] the little corner is painted and there's a candle and it actually feels like a

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[00:04:06] Yeah, it is. It's real. It's real business. This is real profession.

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[00:04:14] Hannah Clardy: I think it's something you can craft and you can make your own. And just, you know, especially when you've got, uh, uh, a way to reach people like you like to talk to, or if you can, I mean, interview anybody.

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[00:04:32] Jeff Nesbitt: Familiarity is a huge part of it. Truly. I, I didn't really expect that. I really kind of want it to become internet famous and have nobody here know that I was doing it.

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[00:04:42] Hannah Clardy: at all the anonymous notoriety. It feels kind of better that way. It does

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[00:04:56] Yeah. And the stranger, when I get strangers on here, [00:05:00] people don't listen to it nearly as much like the episode that came out yesterday. Bet you haven't heard it.

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[00:05:12] Jeff Nesbitt: honestly, I have no fucking idea.

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[00:05:14] Hannah Clardy: I asked, but

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[00:05:26] Hannah Clardy: sponsor your

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[00:05:30] He like finds artists to curate and with the goal of like increasing social awareness. What do you call it? Ecological intelligence.

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[00:05:46] Jeff Nesbitt: pretty cool. It's like a venture capitalist, except you don't expect to make

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[00:05:49] Right? Okay. Yeah, exactly. Less capitalist. More adventure,

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[00:06:01] Hannah Clardy: toting liberals. I love it. I say this all the time. I don't have guns. I'm not good with them. My clarity family loves them.

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[00:06:25] I know that is an adult in his seventies, but he fucking loves

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[00:06:31] Hannah Clardy: guy's carrying a gun, dude. He in his, you got that pickup truck. I'm just

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[00:06:39] Hannah Clardy: And this where we live or just like what you would need them for besides just loving to shoot guns.

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[00:06:51] Jeff Nesbitt: Well people want to assume that they're, they're somehow inherently evil or malicious and. Like no more than anything else, but they are [00:07:00] created to kill people. There's no confusion about that.

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[00:07:05] Hannah Clardy: afraid of them. I actually have a, a really controversial opinion on two things, but I use the same argument to, uh, to art, to for them both abortions and guns.

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[00:07:19] Hannah Clardy: to hear it. I think do, um, okay.

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[00:07:42] But like, I don't, I don't need, I don't know. I don't know. It's like if you have to have, if one has to be a little bit illegal, like guns have to be illegal, everyone has to be able to get them. We all have to be able to access them. Same thing with abortions. Like if we all have someone needs one, I don't necessarily want one.

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[00:08:12] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I think that is like 100.

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[00:08:35] And I choose to support you in your decision, regardless of whether or not it F it is the same as mine. Like that's, that's what a liberal should

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[00:08:55] And my father-in-law

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[00:08:59] Hannah Clardy: It is. [00:09:00] And it's like, like we're, um, my parents are just a little bit older than them, so they are in the kind of like hippie ish kind of generation where, um, they didn't, I don't know. They it's just, it's just a little different, but Eric, my father-in-law, he was in, um, Guam.

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[00:09:23] Jeff Nesbitt: what Guam. I mean, I know it's yeah, I know it was a war, but I don't know any details about it. There I am so bad

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[00:09:31] Jeff Nesbitt: protect them. I don't, I would not even be able to put my finger on Guam on a map.

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[00:09:36] Hannah Clardy: like down by the, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna say okay. Like, I'm pretty sure it's it feels like it's Caribbean, but it's not.

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[00:09:49] Hannah Clardy: Maybe it is by Japan actually. Now that you say that,

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[00:09:56] Hannah Clardy: We're going to have to make sure that we're not,

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[00:10:15] Guam. It's an organized unincorporated territory of the United States in the Micronesia sub-region of the Western Pacific ocean.

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[00:10:43] Well, that's fucked up

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[00:11:04] On December 8th, 1941 hours. After the Pearl Harbor attacks, Guam was captured by the Japanese who occupied the island for two and a half years during the occupation.

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[00:11:34] An unofficial, but frequently use territorial motto is where America's day begins, which refers to the Island's proximity to the international Dateline. Guam is among the 17 non self-governing territories listed by the United States. And it has been a member of the Pacific community since 19.

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[00:11:57] Hannah Clardy:

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[00:12:06] And for the fact that he, um, again, he's, he's supported, I can't think I'm rambling.

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[00:12:25] Hannah Clardy: I'm

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[00:12:30] Hannah Clardy: It's an Alexa.

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[00:12:32] Jeff Nesbitt: Nevermind. You know what kind of sucks for people named Siri and Alexa? Oh, all of this for their life, their entire

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[00:12:49] Change the game. Flip the script. Sorry. It's like chatting. I know a lot of Chad's and Kyle's my brother-in-law's a Chad and I love him. I mean, he's you got it? He's name Chad. I'm a gym, not

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[00:13:04] They're good guys. Especially

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[00:13:39] Hannah Clardy: Greek? Um, once not all the way through, but, um, Russell brand. Yeah. And, uh, Jonah

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[00:13:55] Oh my God. And they call it the Jeffrey and I love that. [00:14:00] Pass that Jeffrey over here. Yeah. Cause it, cause he was afraid of a Jeffrey. I think that's what he actually says. Yeah. It was because he was afraid of a Jeffrey

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[00:14:13] Jeff Nesbitt: Everybody goes Dahmer. Everybody. There's gotta be Foxworthy out there. Hey, I've done some shit, but nah, it's pretty bad that he put them in like acid barrel and he was

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[00:14:28] Jeff Nesbitt: should've been, yeah. I was talking about that with Elsa the other day because she gets all, uh, I don't know what the word is actually, cause it's not real.

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[00:15:00] You, yeah. You like, it's like, oh me again, but she acts like, it's a hassle. It's like, oh, come on. You don't want people bring up when they talk about my name, Jeffrey Dahmer, like exactly gay murder. Like just not good. Not good. Horrifying. Yeah. As if the gays haven't had to go through enough, dammit. Now we got Jeffrey Dahmer, cutting them up, putting them in their acid barrels.

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[00:15:39] Hannah Clardy: Yeah. You're not wrong about that. We got gay marriage when we got, when we went through.

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[00:15:47] Jeff Nesbitt: definitely had something to do with it. The world is actually changed a lot in the last,

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[00:15:54] Jeff Nesbitt: years, 15 years. Have you had your, you've had your tenure. Yeah.

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[00:15:59] That we're that [00:16:00] old, but absolutely

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[00:16:02] Jeff Nesbitt: I kinda like it sometimes. And other times I'm like, no, this sucks.

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[00:16:11] Jeff Nesbitt: That's been

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[00:16:21] Yeah. That's nerve wracking, but then there's just like a part of you too. That's like fucking, so many things that mattered when you were like, you know, just adolescent, like 12 to like 19 into your like early twenties. It's just not there anymore. Yeah. And you carry all those things. You're not completely different.

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[00:16:40] Jeff Nesbitt: not. Which do you things, do you notice that were there then at, are not there now?

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[00:17:03] I fucking done that. Oh, I have, my car is broken down on the freeway, just the, uh, the right lane. Um, I have broke down. Um, I can't think of what road it is, but going out to Lloyd center and is in the middle lane, like exit one almost to my exit and my car stopped. And it was just like, I remember like having to return cans to put gas in my car and it was like 87 cents or whatever, you know, I'm just like, please fucking get me there.

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[00:17:55] Scott doing these days, he works at Wyndham and seaside. He has worked between, um, he's worked for [00:18:00] Windham now for God, almost eight, or it's over eight years, but it's, it feels like 10 years. So it's gotta be coming soon. But he started out doing community marketing, which is, uh, basically people walking on the street and you asked them if they want to come here a little bit about timeshare and do really, I mean, I've, we've got a house, a car and a

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[00:18:22] I bet you, he got a lot of shit in the beginning. It's not great. No, go fuck

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[00:18:47] And so he turns it on. So he's, he's done that. Um, he was so good at that. They made him the manager and then blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. He's just kind of worked his way up. But now, um, after actually I guess I will I'll I'll slow down after COVID. [00:19:00] Came and went, I stayed home and cause I was lucky enough to do that.

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[00:19:25] And, uh, I sell myself short on that a lot and I shouldn't, but it is hard. And his job is, again, it is very demanding and he is, he works hard for the money he brings home. Uh, and I, again, I love that part of it, but just watching him, he loves to win and it's sales. So to watch him yet a big sale that day, or just hearing that, just the, like the look in his eyes when he's just turned on by the passion that, you know, uh, that's uh, that is fulfilling in itself.

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[00:20:12] Jeff Nesbitt: I'm so glad I got you in here. We got to get all that information, figure out how

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[00:20:15] I want that. I don't know how to tell other people to do that, but it's like, I feel that I didn't have not high expectations. Not, it's not like the right one. I think that I just set my goals for joy, a little not lower. That seems like the wrong thing to say.

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[00:20:40] Hannah Clardy: things that I wanted from my life.

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[00:21:05] Jeff Nesbitt: lot of people, but so many people and yeah, it, because it takes work.

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[00:21:17] Hannah Clardy: place. Right. I guess that's kind of what it is. I'm just like, I ended up here. I am that's

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[00:21:27] Hannah Clardy: And this is what we have. Our skies are clear, you know, my car started today. We have two. I have a house, we bought a fucking house. Like, I'm just, I'm just a nice girl from ocean park who made it out. You know what I mean? And it's weird. It's weird to be, I mean, to be successful, you know,

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[00:21:49] Hannah Clardy: Yes, exactly. So I think that's better. What I think we should say is that you should define what success means for you and, and maybe be easier on yourself on, [00:22:00] on, on what you want. That's great advice, you know, I think that's probably as good as I could get.

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[00:22:10] Does it feel like you're bragging? Yes,

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[00:22:13] Jeff Nesbitt: people are much more comfortable complaining. It seems like you're right about that. And that's, that's like a, a positive feedback loop too, because the more people complain publicly, the more others see that. And then they think of like, oh, that's the way we do it.

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[00:22:36] Hannah Clardy: you're rubbing it in their face. That's not it at all. And I think that you should have

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[00:22:47] Yes, exactly. And put their attention

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[00:23:02] Jeff Nesbitt: small.

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[00:23:11] Hannah Clardy: went to a little bit. I never actually graduated. I ended up just starting work and eventually Scott and I moved to Salem where Scott was, he was going to college.

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[00:23:27] Hannah Clardy: And, um, that, isn't why I stopped going. I just, um, I just, I wish that I hadn't stopped, but it just wasn't right at the time I was not mature enough. I did not have the, um, the drive to learn new things and want to put myself in a learning environment.

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[00:24:13] So. And then I transferred to Mount hood when I moved back to Sandy to live with my family. And I actually really love Mount hood and I definitely should have been a little bit more persistent, but again, just being a mature, moving a couple of times from my family's house to my own apartment. Cause I thought I was so fucking cool and ready to do that.

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[00:24:36] Jeff Nesbitt: um, another thing socially people are like, oh no, don't do

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[00:24:48] Jeff Nesbitt: take it.

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[00:24:51] Hannah Clardy: situation, which they would have offered me and they would have absolutely been

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[00:25:00] Hannah Clardy: never happened. Um, and, and so, so I liked, I liked going to school there.

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[00:25:14] Jeff Nesbitt: teacher? Yeah, he'd be a great little kid teacher.

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[00:25:28] And I was like, do I want to be a pottery teacher? Do I want to do this? And if I was actually going to do something where I was teaching, I was like, maybe I'll do something where I can actually be hands-on. And like, with my craft and I love kids, but maybe I can teach art to kids.

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[00:25:57] Uh, but I like to [00:26:00] cross it and I like, I've been making wreaths, which is a real old lady thing to do and say, but I am kind of fucking going on all kinds

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[00:26:09] Hannah Clardy: Christmas. Oh, all kinds. I want to do pride ones. I want four 20 ones. I just don't have the materials for these things yet. I'm all

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[00:26:18] Can I tell you a trick to get the materials up front? Yes. Make one, make a prototype, put it on line for pre-sale that. So see how many orders you get. That's very smiley materials and make them on like

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[00:26:36] Jeff Nesbitt: I haven't heard that. I heard somebody say that two years ago and it's been kicking around in my head until I needed to give it to somebody that that's for you.

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[00:26:46] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. And then just let people buy it in. Pre-sale absolutely. I'll send out the shit. So that's the

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[00:26:57] We're doing that one. Um, but yeah, no. Any, [00:27:00] anything, any, any event that you, if you can cram shit into a circle, it's a re

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[00:27:08] Hannah Clardy: Um, anything, I mean, I have wire, I have wire ones that are already formed that are just a different way of applying shit to it.

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[00:27:33] That's like a gas thing I do. I love do it. Love it. Let it feel you it's. Some of the best men are some of the best gardeners in the world are men. And so that makes perfect sense. It's like nurturing. Yes. Which is kind of weird. I think it's an amazing thing. And if that brings out your beautiful gayness, then do it, let it, let it flow.

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[00:27:57] Hannah Clardy: don't know if I was it wouldn't be offensive. [00:28:00] What's the word? Not feminine.

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[00:28:11] What

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[00:28:22] Jeff Nesbitt: It is. Yes.

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[00:28:28] Jeff Nesbitt: yeah. Yeah. I'm realizing by myself in my thirties that there's no reason to pretend that I like stuff.

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[00:28:36] Hannah Clardy: I agree. Yes. I also like sports, but I also love, and that's a lot how Scott is like, he's like, I like fancy things, but I also like man things. What's the difference. Yeah.

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[00:28:50] Hannah Clardy: Truly just the stems,

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[00:28:55] But yeah. I like lots of things like that. I like taking care of little kids. I like nurturing. That's something I [00:29:00] enjoy. That's a woman's job. That's

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[00:29:05] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't give a shit about the gender of, of activities anymore.

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[00:29:08] Hannah Clardy: just doesn't matter to me. We all do it.

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[00:29:25] Jeff Nesbitt: I bet. You've never had to put

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[00:29:27] Oh God. No. I mean, I do when I'm alone, I don't mind me. I can't struggle or not get things, but a stepladder. Yeah. Couple of them, two of them, at least in the kitchen. I think it is. I think Laney got it for me for Christmas. It's real big smooth. It's really one hand I can do it. Nice. But he is he's the, the high up and I am the down low.

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[00:29:48] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. That sounds like it. How tall is Scott? He's a big guy. He's six

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[00:30:03] 10 Anderson is going to be six in July. My son, six feet. No thank God. No, six years old. And he is, um, three foot six. We went to Disneyland in February. So we have is we had his exact height on, on board to make sure we knew. And three foot six is not that far from 4.9. No it isn't. So, and he'll be like, I'm at your shoulder.

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[00:30:27] Jeff Nesbitt: 11 year old who's in sixth grade. Is like

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[00:30:45] And I'm just like, Jesus Christ. They're going to, they're going to rally me back into school at morning. Drop-off one day. They're like, how'd you get out? They're going to put me back with all the kids. Uh it's it's

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[00:30:57] Hannah Clardy: mask at school. I bet. Yeah. So at [00:31:00] first he was a little freaked out and I mean, he never, um, I mean, he went to preschool and he did daycare and stuff like that and no mask, you know, but he's only ever been at his school with a mask on this kindergarten year.

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[00:31:33] And so we were trying to explain to him. We don't want you to be afraid, kind of live your life buddy. And like, um, you just, we can't for, so first of all, we've been to like two water parks. We've been to Disneyland since COVID and, um, how is all Disneyland doing expensive and crazy fucking fun? Well,

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[00:31:54] Or did COVID ruin it?

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[00:32:08] Jeff Nesbitt: Give like a $15 Turo. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[00:32:10] And the Turkey legs, all that shit. Bizarre. Who thought of that? Oh my God. They're like on steroids. They are. So, I mean, they absolutely, they're so big and it's like, we have a picture of Anderson, like, and it's bigger than its head.

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[00:32:27] Hannah Clardy: and then throw it on the ground for the fucking, no, they're they're ducks, but they'll come cannibalize.

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[00:32:57] And he was like, Just getting [00:33:00] ready. So

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[00:33:03] Hannah Clardy: is very, and they let them, I think at some point they had us, um, not, they didn't have a vote or decide, but they let us know that they were going to start letting them go mask lists outside at recess and stuff and at lunch too, which obviously, but it is weird to think that you have spent most of your time with your face covered, you know, and they just get to be free.

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[00:33:24] Jeff Nesbitt: Didn't cover our face. Yeah. The, I, I didn't honestly didn't mind the masks, but I didn't like that my kids had to wear them because they didn't like them.

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[00:33:36] Like doing stuff with me too.

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[00:33:45] Hannah Clardy: problem gave me the mask. And then I got my little COVID Debbie chin. So I'm like, let's suck that up. And even if you take it off, you're just like, now it's a double chin cover motherfucker, or just walking on the beach.

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[00:34:01] Jeff Nesbitt: It's cold out here. Let's cover that up. Yeah. There, there could have been a lot worse things than masks. People needed something to be outraged about

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[00:34:11] But fuck it. Fuck it. Exactly. But fuck.

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[00:34:26] Hannah Clardy: difficult. I agree. My, this, they were just asking, um, someone double checked with Anderson.

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[00:34:49] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I never had that many pretty teachers.

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[00:35:01] Jeff Nesbitt: I hope not. But if they are offended that, that that's weird because we were kids and

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[00:35:15] Um, I just, I was going to say, I feel like a lot of the teachers, we got to go to school. We're fucking old. By the time we got there and I love them all. Yeah. I feel like we got the old generation. Yeah.

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[00:35:30] Hannah Clardy: pedophile road. Let's just say a death to every pedophile and I fucking hate you Selma

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[00:35:38] I hate you because I love people, but I hate, I hate pedophiles. Or maybe if you're a pedophile, just keep it to yourself, man. Get the fuck out of here. Kids. Don't be touching

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[00:35:50] Jeff Nesbitt: That's actually a good question. What do we do about that? Like

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[00:35:57] You, we don't talk. I don't know. You are not welcome here. [00:36:00]

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[00:36:08] Hannah Clardy: God, I just like, I don't know.

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[00:36:14] But I wonder do we kill them to,

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[00:36:29] Probably. I don't know, get those eyes just hate it all. Yeah.

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[00:36:34] want

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[00:36:40] Jeff Nesbitt: they're going to be very identifiable also. So that's a double edged and do

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[00:36:43] Hannah Clardy: The worst part of it is I think maybe not the worst part, but what I wonder is this is a, hopefully not a connection.

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[00:37:00] Jeff Nesbitt: working in the same and they get caught close to each other. Makes you wonder if they were connected to if they

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[00:37:13] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. There's got to be, it's so bad for the other male teachers of the district, the ones who are completely upstanding, who actually care about people

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[00:37:36] So I want, I'm not going to say any names, but the first one we found out about, I, uh, chartered a boat, uh, with that person Scott's family had a family member pass away and they wanted to be buried at sea. No one of their ashes thrown at sea. So that's who we went through. And about two weeks later, I got a fucking phone call from someone being like, you're never going to guess what I just.[00:38:00]

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[00:38:20] And I was like, oh, that's fucking great. You're going to be so good at that. Just fucking, oh, terrible. Sorry to take it down that road. I actually, yet

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[00:38:39] Cause I'm just like, can you fucking

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[00:38:49] Jeff Nesbitt: don't want to cause any more pain, not to people who've been involved with that. And even to the families of these people, like they're still around here and they're probably good people.

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[00:39:23] My place in the, in a social hierarchy. And I didn't know how to do that. I still don't. So I was doing this thing where I would give people nicknames without their permission. And it was, I thought it was funny. I also, it was like a way to take power, I think. And I've, I've really, I've really analyzed the hell out of that over the years.

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[00:39:46] Hannah Clardy: Okay. I had a similar conversation with you understand? Yes. Yeah. It's

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[00:39:58] 100% encourage that. [00:40:00] But if you are just deciding somebody looks like a duck and you're going to call them duck, boy. Yeah.

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[00:40:06] Jeff Nesbitt: But, so I did that and a lot actually gave a lot of people, nicknames, some of the, some of the hits actually that you might remember from back in the day, those were me.

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[00:40:41] Okay. And, um, yeah, he was cool with it.

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[00:40:49] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. It makes me feel sick

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[00:40:50] Hannah Clardy: my stomach. It's weird that you think that those connections, I can remember two instances, like one just in the middle of class, like something that I remembered, like advice, why it's him telling me? And [00:41:00] then just like holding on to that and then it's, it's also, and yeah, it is, it's just weird.

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[00:41:20] Jeff Nesbitt: he was just like, oh, this cool guy is like, cool, trustworthy.

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[00:41:41] Hannah Clardy: I'm guessing

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[00:41:50] Hannah Clardy: few times.

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[00:41:55] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, Ukraine is

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[00:42:17] And he was an average dude. Like, you'll have to Google it,

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[00:42:24] Hannah Clardy: real bad, and he's just a regular fella. Like he was an actor or whatever, and, and now he's, he's leading their country and he was just, yeah, fucking bad-ass dude. And the thing is, is like, if he dies, so if he's murdered, he'll become a martyr.

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[00:42:54] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Putin's got to feel weird right now. Everyone seems to

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[00:42:59] Questioning what, [00:43:00] how he got here or what is actually gonna come out of this? I don't know. People think that maybe he's sick that he's like on the way out and that he's just trying to fuck shit up and by people think, I mean Twitter. Yeah. Or anything I read article, like

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[00:43:15] Hannah Clardy: of people, it's the masses, man.

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[00:43:37] So I was like, I have a Twitter. I gotta log back in. Bet. I know what it was.

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[00:43:47] Hannah Clardy: through Twitter. Yeah. I never followed him though. Cause I was like, I will not add to that fucking chaos. I can't do

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[00:43:56] Yeah. I didn't want to like be on his list of

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[00:44:04] Jeff Nesbitt: I didn't worry about it too much. Cause I'm like, well he is the president, you know,

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[00:44:09] let's talk. So I want to get blocked. I'm wanting to get blocked by the president. Not no people have and they brag about it. Okay. That scares me. Freaked me out. I like that though. Oh man. Some of them have been knocking the short girl and from Astoria, just uh, harassing the president via Twitter. Okay.

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[00:44:50] But what the thing is is that you cannot tell someone, uh, that they should go eat a Dick, but you can say I would like you to eat it. And

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[00:44:59] Hannah Clardy: You can [00:45:00] go fuck yourself, or you giving them the

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[00:45:04] Hannah Clardy: suggested, and I hate you. And as long as those, I feel like as long as you're creative enough with your insult, uh,

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[00:45:14] You're just suggesting

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[00:45:41] But I think the worst thing you could call the lady is a cow. It is pretty offensive, but comes are strong and they're awesome. And they make things and they're tough. Absolutely. It's what it's, what's given us everything, but you know, what's not as cool as a kind is a cow. Cows are fat. Yeah. [00:46:00] And they stand around all day.

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[00:46:08] Jeff Nesbitt: cut. Yeah. As far as, uh, metaphors go, cow is not one for, uh, you know, up and coming successful lady.

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[00:46:26] And, you know, yeah. Just confuse your, your, I get, I don't know. I'm trying to say, let me just switch up your cussing. Like

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[00:46:45] The way that like poor white people use. Fuck. Uh, it's just, it's a utility word.

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[00:47:07] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. People are going to start. Kids are going to start swearing way earlier than we

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[00:47:27] Scott. And I just, I mean, it's hard, especially when kids cuss correctly, it's like, I'm not even mad. I just don't want you to do that in front of your, my parents or in-laws. It's like, I get mad too. And so if he's using it in a fit of rage or like emotion, I want to kind of get him in trouble. I'm just like, let's cool.

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[00:47:47] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's a, that's great. You teach them emotional intelligence, figure out how to, how to figure out what

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[00:48:04] And you know, that shit, like I should be leading an example, but there are some things like, you're not drinking alcohol, you understand? That's something only context does matter. We understand that something that grown ups do we drink and you don't right now, you know? And even at that will be like, you want to try this wine because it's made, it seems pretty normal other places.

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[00:48:31] Jeff Nesbitt: It tastes, it smells

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[00:48:43] Jeff Nesbitt: It's Berkeley. Um, as far as parenting goes, , how open are you with your kids about explaining stuff? Like, like sex or war or things really, or homosexuality is actually another one that kids are sometimes confused about. How do you,

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[00:49:08] Um, about mortality. Mortality is interesting. We've had a lot of fish die, um, on our hands. And, um, I can't remember. We did, we have talked with the Anderson about dying, um, because his art Scott's grandmother passed away and he was old enough to, to understand that, but more so, um, with just like his gender identity or just like, um, there's another one.

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[00:49:54] And, uh, so she's, you know, she's playing with her baby dolls and Barbies and things, and he's right there with her [00:50:00] and he'll get out his boy toys and they'll do boy toy stuff and do Ironman stuff. So he's, he's got a really good mix of like just being who the fuck he wants to be. He lives, he loves all the fandoms.

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[00:50:18] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. Kiki's delivery service beach.

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[00:50:29] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. So I'll cover this really quickly. Cause I've talked about it one time on the podcast before and did not explain it. that movie, my little sister had a random VHS copy of this movie when I was, uh, probably 13, 14 ish.

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[00:51:01] Hannah Clardy: captivating. They do. I don't all of those movies. It's I think a lot of it is the animation because it is hand drawn.

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[00:51:14] Jeff Nesbitt: like not American main line and

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[00:51:28] That's what Kiki's doing. She's going to go find out who she is. And the only, the only, um, the, the biggest. Protagonists or was that? I don't know if that's right. Antagonists. I can't fucking, I can't think right now the

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[00:51:42] Hannah Clardy: hero. The biggest problem she faces is that she gets writer's block.

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[00:52:02] Jeff Nesbitt: The film that inspired a generation to become Amazon prime delivery drivers,

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[00:52:09] There is some witches around these days. That is true. The Wiccans came,

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[00:52:20] Hannah Clardy: connect to. This makes sense.

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[00:52:30] It's all part of the

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[00:52:37] Jeff Nesbitt: I'm having lately. I've been having a kind of a reformatting of my spiritual mind. Yeah. It's I had to. You

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[00:52:51] Jeff Nesbitt: say. Well, I've been putting it off because it was, there was so many questions that I didn't have answers to.

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[00:53:11] Hannah Clardy: like, oh, I didn't really know that until after we got out of high school, I didn't know.

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[00:53:41] Absolutely get that. And it's just because it's like, it was more fun

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[00:53:48] Jeff Nesbitt: dangerous to do what everyone else is doing to me. I agree. Like a trick like, oh, I'm just going to fall in line, like the lemmings and just

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[00:53:57] Jeff Nesbitt: can't, you know, those lemmings were actually pushed.

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[00:54:08] Hannah Clardy: they'll do what the next one

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[00:54:17] Those birds were fucking pushed. And it was, it turned out later that lemmings don't fucking do that. Why would they

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[00:54:26] Jeff Nesbitt: We fucking off but yeah, I, the point is I don't, I, I can't conform, uh, it makes me feel like actual terror, like prison, like even a hand, like the mock arena, if everyone's doing the mock arena, I'll do it.

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[00:54:51] Hannah Clardy: . I do. So like, I get that to a point where I like to be, I like to be the fun and I like to be the thing. So if we are doing the Wonka [00:55:00] Reyna, I will do the Macarena, but I'm going to do it the best.

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[00:55:08] Jeff Nesbitt: I've studied you people. Yeah. Yeah. I was like, how did they do that? How did they

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[00:55:23] It's just, there's nothing else. Yeah. Feel bigger next time. You know what I mean? At least you tried. Failure is just the result of trying something you've never done, you know, or just Scott as a good saying. And I can't remember who actually says it, but it's just fail, fail again. Fail bigger. Fail, fucking astronomically.

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[00:55:48] Jeff Nesbitt: It's true. And you really don't have a choice.

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[00:55:51] Hannah Clardy: don't have a choice.

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[00:55:56] Hannah Clardy: and fail, just continue doing it. You know, that's what I [00:56:00] do. Yeah.

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[00:56:05] Hannah Clardy: be, you know, it shouldn't probably be easy.

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[00:56:26] And it's highlighted by the good parts are highlighted because of the regular monotony. And if you find joy in the monotony, and if you can make yourself enjoy fucking traffic jams or long waits in line, fucking whatever you're doing, what else do you have to do? Where, you know, we can't, you can't do anything about it.

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[00:56:46] Jeff Nesbitt: you that choice on a moment to moment basis. Cause they're doing shit that you would never do. It's like, how could you be so inconsiderate to shit all over the place?

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[00:57:01] Jeff Nesbitt: I, that I can use, unless there's other people around that are, that are still angry.

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[00:57:18] Hannah Clardy: just goes away like emotional vampire prism. It's like, yes,

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[00:57:24] Um, I'm able to give them my thing for like, if I'm happy and they're grumpy, I can get them to get happy and it's not always easy. And sometimes it doesn't work, but usually works. And, um, district that I do to make, when I'm cleaning up the shit all over the place, feel better as like I put myself in the head of 10 years from now, it's like, think of this moment, 10 years from now.

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[00:58:03] Hannah Clardy: with you.

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[00:58:08] Jeff Nesbitt: And those moments never stop like there one after another, after another. So it's easy to get frustrated and burned out. You have to

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[00:58:27] And that's another one of those things that like, uh, as far as like being gifted by Scotty, Scotty by the, um, you know, gift of being at. You know, and just like, Scott's able to go to work and like sustain our family. And I just, I get those moments with Anderson, where he tells me the funniest shit, you know what I mean?

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[00:59:04] And we were like, well, what are you here? What are you, what does that, where did you learn that? And he's like, I don't know. I just made it up. We were like, you're fucking hilarious. Thank you. Yes, you can have all this macaroons you want. Are it just it's it's uh, a bit of joy that, again, being a mom, I always knew I wanted kids.

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[00:59:49] And I'm thankful for that because if our parents, anything should happen to them, we'll have a lot of support. And, you know, as we grow older, we'll still have each other, but just be Anderson is my fear. And so [01:00:00] thankfully my two sisters, my oldest sister has three children and my middle sister has one and they are all very close.

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[01:00:10] Jeff Nesbitt: My wife grew up with a lot of cousins that she was close to like that, and she's still got those relationships. I didn't have that. I actually got a message at two in the morning from my older sister two weeks ago, that said I was just in the shower and I, uh, realized we don't have any cousins.

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[01:00:35] Hannah Clardy: shared grandparents with. Yeah. And that's kind of fuck load of cousins. I is my bragging. I know. Right. Isn't that just, you're doing it

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[01:00:45] Rubbing it in my face. Your life is so good with all your cousins and being a stay at home.

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[01:01:05] She had him with one fella and he died and then she had another baby with another fella and he left. I'm theirs. So that's two, there's someone else in there in the mix. And then there's my, oh, I cut them down yesterday. Wow. Thank

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[01:01:24] Hannah Clardy: Are those hand painted? Yeah, she did it all. My hands are all shaky, but um, her name is Kim.

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[01:01:55] Wow. And then came home and lived her fucking life. And when my grandpa got home from war, [01:02:00] he adopted her other three children. And then he made my mom and my uncle. And so we have, we, she, she raised five children. And then when my grandfather passed away in 1998, we got a call from our uncle Andy. And he was like, do you remember who I am?

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[01:02:41] It's been like 20 years. Yeah, like fucking yeah, 24 years ago. So anyway, that's cool. She had a lot of kids and then those kids all had kids. And so I've just got a load of cousins. Wow.

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[01:02:59] Hannah Clardy: I'm finding [01:03:00] out that people aren't yeah. Who we thought they were.

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[01:03:20] And you're like, that's where it got that from. Yeah. We were just talking about a song that my grandpa used to sing to us when we were kids about, um, what was it? So you'd saying like, Hannah is a friend of mine. She would kiss me anytime for a nickel or a dime. And we always thought he made it up.

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[01:03:56] They were in the kitchen cooking and they would sing, see shanty. [01:04:00] And I was like,

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[01:04:23] And I was like, oh, I'll see. Shanties. And I was like, I've got it in my blood. Who knew? Yeah.

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[01:04:42] And I already knew the song so I could not put in the correct. Yeah. I couldn't change it in my head and I kept singing it wrong and she got real mad. But, um, when are

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[01:04:56] Jeff Nesbitt: Be sneaky about it. So I don't look awkward.

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[01:05:03] Hannah Clardy: This whole, this is just like, um, it's just like a real camera. It's amazing. I love that. You can just put the thing over the back of it and that changes everything about it.

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[01:05:21] It'll do it as you, as you wish. But, um, Why would we just covering, um,

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[01:05:30] Jeff Nesbitt: genetics? DNA is crazy.

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[01:06:01] I know I did. I'm not fucking my, the, so I was like, someone lied to me so long ago, whoever you are out there, whatever. One of my family members, I had a real identity crisis after this because I'm not Italian at all. What are you European as fuck. And I have 6% of the Iberian peninsula, which is in Spain.

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[01:06:43] Jeff Nesbitt: they're getting more, more accurate.

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[01:07:02] So then they have more to draw conclusions from it's really

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[01:07:13] Jeff Nesbitt: yeah. Actually there's even more stuff they'll tell you if you okay.

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[01:07:20] Jeff Nesbitt: it. The craziest thing to me though, about the whole thing is that it, I, and I've talked about this at several times on the podcast, but I share 49% of my genetic material with my sister who is my full sibling. Isn't that

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[01:07:34] It seems a little, um, that seems a little, a lot. That's a lot.

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[01:07:59] How close are you in [01:08:00] age? Two years. Weird. Yeah. And I, I really want Jake to take it so I can see what his overlap would be. Cause I bet it's higher because we look alike and yeah. Yeah, definitely. Me and my older sister don't look that much. Okay. You all do

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[01:08:18] You know, you look like siblings. That's what people say. Even down to Tawny. Like my, my older sisters have a different dad than I do, but we don't. I think we look similar, but I don't really think we so it's and I love them. So again, if you guys are listening and I think I look more like my two cousins who are four foot nine and almost, I actually Abby's four 10, and my cousin Olivia is almost five foot, but we're all short.

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[01:08:49] Jeff Nesbitt: they're in their full cousins. I don't know. I wonder how genetically, how much overlap that is like with like a half sister. Cause that's that's I don't even know [01:09:00] really

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[01:09:05] It is absolutely the same smile, nose cheeks. It's just years apart.

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[01:09:12] Hannah Clardy: like Scott? So it's funny. You should ask. He looks so fucking much like Scott, that Scott might as well have birthed them like so much, but then, uh, I have this picture of me and like the first grade, which is about how old he is.

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[01:09:35] that's my baby. I get that more from like things that he says when he's talking like the inflection and when he speaks and stuff that I'm like, oh, that's me right there a hundred percent.

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[01:09:49] Hannah Clardy: exactly.

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[01:09:52] Hannah Clardy: my voice is just my mom's voice. Absolutely. It's weird. It is crazy, but he is. Yeah.

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[01:10:09] Hannah Clardy: my body odor.

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[01:10:14] Jeff Nesbitt: Motherfucker like, damn. It's

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[01:10:17] Jeff Nesbitt: I smell like father. Yeah. And I never really thought he stunk, but, um, Emilia tells me that. Yes, I impacted you. The first two years of her life or the first two years of her speaking life, she would not shut the fuck up about how bad.

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[01:10:31] Hannah Clardy: Kids are so mean and Anderson the other morning. A, it might've even been yesterday morning on my birthday. It was, I woke up. I usually get up really early and uh, I will get coffee and brush my teeth and sometimes look, get back in bed and just. We all my phone, but I had gotten up particularly early and brushed my teeth right away.

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[01:11:05] Jeff Nesbitt: still fresh. Like they haven't had 20 years of, of old God inside of your head bacteria, just

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[01:11:13] And I'm like, you know what? If you could brush your teeth, it'll at least stole your census for a minute. Get the hell out. He, I don't talk to him like that, but like, God, dang

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[01:11:36] And it's your boy.

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[01:11:49] Jeff Nesbitt: And that was the nicest way she ever said it. But most of the time she's very mean she's very blunt. People have always told me that I'm very blunt and it actually insults me because I [01:12:00] feel like I'm a very considerate, like sugarcoating person.

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[01:12:24] Hannah Clardy: And that's the thing like with Anderson that he's like, I, I'm going to say whatever I want to say. Cause that's what my mom and dad do. Or he'll come up with a question and not know why that's a Rudy answer and thankful or rude question. And thankfully like. Um, I really tried to drill into his head that like, when we are out places, if you see something you don't understand, remember it will say it's much crazy stuff as you want about it in the car, but for the love of God, let's not talk about it right here.

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[01:13:11] Jeff Nesbitt: had the very similar story.

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[01:13:27] Hannah Clardy: I said to Anderson. I was like, did you see how quickly she walked away?

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[01:13:48] Jeff Nesbitt: but then you get onto the next stage of that development, which is like, our thoughts actually matter too, which I didn't know till I was an adult.

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[01:14:16] Hannah Clardy: That's a lot of that mindset thing too, just about being that goes back into what we were talking about very early in the podcast. Just that like, if you think your life is good, it's fucking good. You know what I mean? If you're, if your power and your thought is in one direction, then that's the direction it is.

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[01:14:32] Jeff Nesbitt: set your own standards. Yeah, absolutely. And then figuring out how to measure

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[01:14:46] Jeff Nesbitt: is. You just start it.

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[01:14:53] Hannah Clardy: Yeah. And rationalize it through experiences or.

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[01:15:09] And

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[01:15:35] And so what would I tell Hannah, what would

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[01:15:44] Hannah Clardy: I don't know. I wonder, I feel like before I would ask her, I would be like, do you, what, like, what do you really want? And I would tell her maybe to like rethink it. And it's not, it's just given more thought because I didn't know what we were [01:16:00] going to do.

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[01:16:15] I didn't have enough tools in my toolbox to get myself there.

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[01:16:24] Hannah Clardy: Panic attacks and Sue. And so you don't know. And so you just get out there the best you can do, you know? And I think that not necessarily answering the question, but I think high school Hannah would think that like 32 year old hand is pretty cool, but I think she would be like, you are kind of a fucking boomer a little bit.

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[01:17:02] I remember being so uncomfortable trying to wear low waste fucking pants. I'm not a low waste pants wearing kind of gal, man. Fuck that. It's coming back. I'm not doing it. I'm going to wear these up to my fucking, like up to the collar bones if I have to, I don't care. And

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[01:17:18] Oh man, everyone looked like my

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[01:17:31] Jeff Nesbitt: the mom jeans catches from SNL.

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[01:17:34] Hannah Clardy: his fucking

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[01:17:40] Hannah Clardy: It's almost ironic on ironically, like ironic it's I don't know. I don't, I don't agree with the soup anyway. Yeah.

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[01:17:50] Hannah Clardy: waste and it was so cool to have like your low waste pants and your shoes.

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[01:18:12] Jeff Nesbitt: years.

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[01:18:20] Hannah Clardy: Going into the hot topic when it's like, you can't see anything and they're like, try the shirt on. You're like, I need that in seven sizes. Bigger. I don't know. I've never been in a hot tub. It was weird or hot topic. I meant to say, I meant to say Hollister, but that was crazy fart in my brain.

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[01:18:37] Jeff Nesbitt: hot topic is like

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[01:18:41] Jeff Nesbitt: the, uh, the Hollister is full of like the smells in there. So fragrant part, even standing in this room

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[01:18:50] Jeff Nesbitt: it. I did wear that cologne though for years it was called Jake. Scott

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[01:19:00] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah. Which is honestly, they were comfortable clothes and you

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[01:19:17] And then again, my little niece, she's like 18. Oh, these pants are I digress. But, um,

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[01:19:25] Hannah Clardy: much the pockets though on the American Eagle ones, you know, do that fucking thing. But if they were, if it wasn't for my young niece giving me pants two different times, I would be like, I'm get fucking Walmart

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[01:19:40] Hannah Clardy: I'm old enough. And I have a Knight like normal size body where I can actually buy a pair of fan pants. Yeah. Like before, when you're like awkward and you're growing, you're like, you can't just go try on seven pairs of pants and feel fucking great afterwards, or lady

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[01:19:56] Hannah Clardy: now it's just like, fuck it.

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[01:20:13] I want a dispenser of leggings and I want them to all be the NLS, get a fresh pair out every morning. You know, you can make that happen. It's not my original idea. To be honest, however, I will steal it. It's the neighbor. He was like, you need new, you need, you know, when you're walking the dog, you just take out your pair of leggings every day.

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[01:20:30] Jeff Nesbitt: you he didn't invent that either. Well, he's you're right.

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[01:20:36] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Why not? Or

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[01:20:42] Jeff Nesbitt: I think, uh, I don't remember who it was. I saw some rapper on Instagram talking about how he doesn't reuse underwear. He just buys a new pack and it throws them away when he's done.

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[01:20:54] Hannah Clardy: guess, like he doesn't have monitor.

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[01:21:00] Hannah Clardy: clothes away at the end of the day. I'm just somebody give them, leave them. People would buy that. Actually. He's not a very good rapper. That's probably it not smart with the businessmen.

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[01:21:09] Jeff Nesbitt: a, what's the guy Canadian guy from, uh, I don't remember Tory lane.

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[01:21:29] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't follow it much.

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[01:21:35] Hannah Clardy: And apparently they were, oh my God. They were at Kylie Jenner's house party. I only know this. I swear. I just got it. Okay. Okay. So they were, I didn't, I would never think that Kylie Jenner would be friends with Megan, thee stallion rather the other way around.

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[01:21:57] Jeff Nesbitt: out with the generic comes from a world that's more like closer to

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[01:22:17] Fuck dude. And it got her in the foot somehow. And then anyway, that whole came out or the whole thing came out. And then it also was revealed that they, there was like some kind of love triangle that he was, that he was maybe with her friend and that she knew that he was with her friend, but making the stallion was like, I'm going to be with Tor.

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[01:22:48] Jeff Nesbitt: one song. I listened to a little bit of it also making the stallions.

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[01:23:10] Hannah Clardy: investing, man, you never know kind of weird shit.

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[01:23:15] Jeff Nesbitt: world. That's the first time I ever heard of him. And then I saw that Megan, the stallion stuff later, I didn't know they were, that's

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[01:23:26] Jeff Nesbitt: the, , the internet makes it way easier to know what's going on in the world, but it has the part of the Twitters.

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[01:23:41] Hannah Clardy: what's going on. I hate that too. Cause then everything I say is like, well, I read the other day or I heard.

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[01:24:02] Jeff Nesbitt: as much as I can.

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[01:24:25] It's very difficult to figure out what's real and what's not, it takes a lot of time and most people don't have that time. So if

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[01:24:43] And I like that experience of just being like I will read until I don't understand something. And then be like, even if it's a word, I think I'm pretty, I haven't got a pretty good vocabulary, but if I don't understand something. Sativa for, for instance, I was reading about a plant that was not marijuana and it had sativa at the end [01:25:00] of it.

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[01:25:24] And now we're just learning stuff. You know, it's a very safe place to just learn on your couch. You know, that's

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[01:25:39] Hannah Clardy: to. Maybe it's interesting that kids, kids going to college now, I don't know that the internet and the access, because again, I had it 10 years ago when I was sitting at Mount hood on my computer.

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[01:26:05] If you can't read it in your book, you can find it in your language, how you speak from somewhere. Hopefully.

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[01:26:13] Hannah Clardy: language example of something that's like, okay, this resonates with me and I can take that back now and apply that or whatever.

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[01:26:23] Jeff Nesbitt: to school? Yeah,

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[01:26:36] I want to be a professional. And I want people to be like, yeah, that's just

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[01:26:44] Hannah Clardy: start them. That's what I like. I like that idea of

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[01:26:55] So you can't just, yeah, exactly. You're actually connecting with the [01:27:00] people you're listening to. I think about that with like the podcasts that I listened to. I feel so connected to the people who hosts. Those shows you feel like

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[01:27:11] Jeff Nesbitt: but I'm not

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[01:27:16] That's why I like to listen to comedy radio when I'm driving or I'm doing Oregon, just podcasts. But like when I'm doing, um, monotonous things, I would rather be laughing and feeling like someone is they're talking to me, we're thinking about that. You know, you're just chewing on ideas. And I like it is like company, which can be a little lonely, I guess, if that's your only means for out for, for connection, but for afraid of people and I'm not.

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[01:27:59] I mean, you get to work. You [01:28:00] might still not be happy to be there, but you'd be like, you'll be giddy a little

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[01:28:07] Hannah Clardy: it's all part

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[01:28:12] That's really free. So it's probably, I probably don't have the best advice on that.

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[01:28:23] Jeff Nesbitt: have you ever had to clean up other people's shit for living other than your motherhood duties? Yeah, I

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[01:28:44] And, um, they had, uh, had a helper that actually probably should have been either right next door to this person's unit or with them in the unit. Um, they weren't, they were like halfway across the hotel complex and this person couldn't [01:29:00] get up to go to the bathroom. So they were urinating from their bedside onto the carpet.

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[01:29:31] Jeff Nesbitt: terrible.

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[01:29:38] Hannah Clardy: Definitely not being here in this. Yeah. Definitely cleaning up any other excrement that isn't, anytime I've

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[01:29:51] Like at least you're not pumping shitters on longer. Right.

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[01:30:07] And today we didn't have enough beds for everybody. And it was just like, your worst day at work is somebody's fucking last day at their job dude. And just like a regular worst, like that's a bad day, but that's like a regular day. And to hear her describe just some of the, just everyday things that she'd got is just like someone she's telling me that someone came in for like a.

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[01:30:51] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, did they, were they able to just swap, swap it out for an energy positive one?

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[01:31:00] Jeff Nesbitt: get the tables, have a good energy. I don't think

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[01:31:09] I, I want the crystals too, but she doesn't have good energy. Doesn't want you to get the energy in there. It does all the food. You gotta bring your pregnant at the hospital or being pregnant at the hospital, giving birth, and then having to they're like, do you want, what do you want? And I'm like, delivery.

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[01:31:27] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That thing is adjustable. These, if you need to click it out a little bit and then get over that hair home, you might be back. That feels good. However, it works. You don't

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[01:31:43] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, it looks good too. Uh, let's see, what were we just talking about, man?

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[01:31:52] Hannah Clardy: it's wild.

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[01:31:56] Hannah Clardy: I used to have to take medicine for it when I was a kid that has it gotten

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[01:31:58] Hannah Clardy: you've gotten older. Okay. I think I've [01:32:00] learned how I've learned, how to manage it, um, in the sense of like what I need to do for myself to get to the next step.

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[01:32:25] And that is it's really hard. Yeah. It is

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[01:32:38] Hannah Clardy: do that anymore. Happens like that

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[01:32:44] Hannah Clardy: And it's like, especially like when I'm being creative or like in my, like when I'm crafting or doing something like that, it's, that's kind of when it's, uh, the most, I'm most aware of that where you're like, what was I just going to do? But it is also weird. I think the add kind of also like, feels that when you do [01:33:00] get on a good, like on a flow, like when you get into that's a real thing, they say like when you're in the zone that, uh, it's almost intensified.

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[01:33:11] Jeff Nesbitt: I studied flow states in college, I did a study where we had people do math problems of varying difficulty levels, and we paired it with their math ability. And so like people with really high math skills, if they were doing really easy shit, they could not lock into a flow state.

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[01:33:40] It's just like truly where I like to be. But it's so hard to get that when you just like, I don't know the requirements of regular life, don't facilitate that for an ADHD person very well, because it's like you're required to be places and do stuff at a regular time. And it's, it has to be that way. It's [01:34:00] not like I'm saying it shouldn't be that way.

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[01:34:01] Hannah Clardy: Because that's how it is. And that is

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[01:34:04] Hannah Clardy: matter. Okay. I can't get into that all the time. I actually do have to have a certain degree of the permanence and the planning and the, because of my add is so all over the place. If I don't have something to stick to, then it will just be chaos.

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[01:34:34] And I think that that's a, we can't

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[01:34:38] Hannah Clardy: Do you meditate? I have before I, I should probably do it more that I actually have. I have a lot of alone time again, when Anderson's at school,

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[01:34:53] Cause you need to be, you need to be, once you get to the point where you can call up that state during your regular waking hours where you [01:35:00] just quickly and yeah. Where you just, all you have to do is remember it then like, oh, this is what that feels like. And then once you know it, you can just go there and be there.

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[01:35:26] Yeah.

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[01:35:31] Jeff Nesbitt: always kind of been a disassociated, just like

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[01:35:45] Yeah. You know, it's

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[01:35:56] Hannah Clardy: amazing. The capacity you have the complex thoughts and [01:36:00] emotions. Yeah. It's great. We're all crazy

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[01:36:03] I spend so much time just commenting on the experience of being. It's gotta be annoying to my family. No one even responds anymore. I'll just say shit. Nobody

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[01:36:22] Jeff Nesbitt: I've always been this way too.

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[01:36:28] Hannah Clardy: the fuck is the chances. Exactly. How did we get here? I love that it annoys

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[01:36:39] Hannah Clardy: to talk to. It's that joy? That optimism for the next, for the nature.

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[01:36:44] Jeff Nesbitt: You have to have that. Yeah. And it's it's, I don't think people have a choice. You either got it. Or you don't,

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[01:37:13] That is, yes, it's impulsive. But like, I, you know, I don't need to go to club. Yes. Do you know what I also was learning about dopamine that, um, it's not, it's not getting the thing that you want. It's the, yeah. And then the, and then being told, yes, you can have that and you have.

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[01:37:34] Like you're usually using both at all times for varying degrees, but the G in general, serotonin is like associated with feelings of being content and things are okay. I'm good with where I'm at. And which actually tells me, you probably got a decent amount of serotonin going. I hope so. And dopamine is the chemical of like, yes, you're on the right track.

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[01:38:15] Hannah Clardy: Yeah.

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[01:38:22] Hannah Clardy: do it. I've never done it, but I've done it a couple of times. A, it seems like the scariest part for me, for any drug is just feeling shitty. The next day I used to be good at drinking and I'm not fucking good at it anymore.

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[01:38:49] And being a mom or being a dad being hung over, that's not your data. You can't, you can't live where you just have to . That's hard.

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[01:39:08] It sucks, but my stomach is

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[01:39:17] Jeff Nesbitt: I'm going to look up, , my list of questions. Cause I get a few more minutes with you and I we've just been bullshit, but if we want to get on any specific things I'm going to look into,

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[01:39:46] Hannah Clardy: Yeah. That's an interesting person

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[01:39:51] Hannah Clardy: I want you to have ADP with me with the bucket

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[01:39:54] Yeah, exactly. People don't really want you to just diagnose

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[01:40:03] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, I just did that yesterday to two of my coworkers telling them well, yeah. I was like, well, you both seem like you have ADHD. They do though. And I was like, cause I'm like, This stuff I've been drinking for a year now, alpha brain

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[01:40:23] Jeff Nesbitt: It's well, it's this company called on it. Okay. It's endorsed by Joe Rogan. So I thought it was all good.

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[01:40:35] Jeff Nesbitt: turns out it was for money. It was for money and honestly, it's, it is fine, but it's not nearly as groundbreaking as they lead to believe lead you to believe it's, it's a nootropic.

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[01:41:01] Hannah Clardy: that's very important in a podcast, words, incentive system.

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[01:41:05] Jeff Nesbitt: that's like one of the best things about podcasts is all those words, really. Especially when they're in sentences.

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[01:41:12] Jeff Nesbitt: Hydrated. Yeah. I like to make my own health products. Yeah. I think that's a lot of fun. It's interesting. I make come out of mushrooms.

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[01:41:18] Hannah Clardy: Okay. Okay. Yeah. I have been reading a little bit about mushrooms. Um, we, we like to go mud, not as good as you are at mushrooms, but yes, we would love that. We like to, and, and again, we've never, never produced quite the loads. I've seen kind of like a crazy

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[01:41:33] Um, so yeah,

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[01:41:50] And so I like to think of it,

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[01:42:08] Hannah Clardy: crazy, like the gathering and the hunting part of that.

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[01:42:22] Jeff Nesbitt: You feel

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[01:42:30] I like that living off of it. It is rewarding. That's

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[01:42:42] Hannah Clardy: good for you. The one that has the really long, I just learned that like one of those tubes, even as like enough for whatever, the

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[01:42:50] Yeah. Just so I get the stuff, I buy it from Paul Stamets company. Actually. I don't know if it's his company, but he promotes it called, uh, what is it?[01:43:00]

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[01:43:02] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't remember. I'll have to get, I'll do a ding. Put it in there. Sorry, Paul, please come on my podcast. Come on, Paul. I'm tired of emailing you. You never write me back home, but anyway.

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[01:43:20] Hannah Clardy: of. So I kind of like a coffee, like it's uplifting. I think so. I think so almost. I'm not sure. I have a vegan friend that was really interested in a lot of these things that she,

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[01:43:34] Okay. Um, so I don't know. Kava is a root chaga is a mushroom. Okay. But I don't know the di, like, I can't think of the list of things they do, but, um, what is another cordyceps cordyceps? Um, it's a parasitic fungus that attacks and ant

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[01:43:52] Jeff Nesbitt: it looks like, um, no, it looks like a little, uh, orange, basically like a worm or [01:44:00] cactus that comes shooting out of a, of a brain.

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[01:44:18] They come off the worms. Yeah. The fungus somehow has the intelligence to get into the brain of the organism and high jacket and tell it to go to the top of the highest tree. That's crazy. Yeah. Like alien. And then it just the shooting Allianz spores go everywhere, but it's also very good for athletic performance and makes your Dick hard

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[01:44:37] Sell that. That makes sense Putting that into a drink.

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[01:44:46] Hannah Clardy: We'll try to figure that out. Yeah, we should. We should put that

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[01:44:52] People like me experimenting with parasitic

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[01:45:02] Jeff Nesbitt: zombies will just be real smart. Oh fuck. That could be bad. That could be real bad.

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[01:45:09] Hannah Clardy: happen. I had a roommate, one of my good friends that really was one of his real irrational fear fears. Truly.

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[01:45:26] Hannah Clardy: And luckily, nobody believed that, you know where the one, the best things I read was that like, they were like all these people that have COVID that are like still going out to work or whatever they cough. They're like, you are definitely one of those fucking people on the walking dead that gets bit. And then doesn't and tries to hide it.

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[01:45:49] Jeff Nesbitt: be us. That will be somebody. But absolutely

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[01:46:01] We, everyone has an assigned weapon in case. The zombie apocalypse happens. And I was the gardener at the house we were renting. And so I had a Pitchfork, oh, that was my zombie apocalypse weapon. And the boys had machetes. So, wow. Plus if anyone tried to break into that house, they would be fucked up upon arrival where we're ready for the zombie apocalypse.

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[01:46:32] Jeff Nesbitt: know, that's the thing, the crazies aren't that crazy sometimes. Or they're maybe they're just crazy enough to create. And one

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[01:46:45] Jeff Nesbitt: just disregard them outright.

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[01:46:49] Hannah Clardy: of truth. You got to hold them back here just so you can be like,

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[01:46:57] Hannah Clardy: believe him. Why not? I'm fucking, [01:47:00] I'm hard core into the Bigfoot situationally.

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[01:47:03] Jeff Nesbitt: Not like tell him about your big foot fascination.

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[01:47:22] Jeff Nesbitt: Yes. Africa and Asia. Oh no, no. They're not. What about

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[01:47:46] And so how is it impossible that this creature didn't just spread out all over our world the way the elephants did? Yeah. Why wouldn't they, how, how not, you know? And so maybe they've just been [01:48:00] you've I also read something or watch something on a documentary about big foot that, um, how often have you spent a lot of time in the forest?

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[01:48:26] Jeff Nesbitt: Most they're absorbed into the forest. Yeah. Immediately. So

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[01:48:36] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. The bone for sure. You're right. There's no reason to believe we would find their bones. That's why I think it's a very active system and bones

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[01:48:46] whatever you're doing. We're going to have a birthday party at my mom's and stuff. , and it's, we're hoping that the rain stays off. Cause we're going to try to dig around and go do all the tourist stuff. So it doesn't matter if it's cold. Cause I can care less about that. But [01:49:00] yeah, Colt's fine.

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[01:49:01] Hannah Clardy: yeah, the website gets up. Cause even in the wind, when the, when it blows, it's like it's night, it's not raining, but I feel wet. And not in the good way. Not in a good way. That's never what you

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[01:49:15] Hannah Clardy: The air is wet. Yes, absolutely. Also, , I was thinking that we would have a crazy winter after we had that fucking heat wave last summer. And then we did, we got so much smell.

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[01:49:37] After that really heavy rain, whereas like we got two inches in two hours or something astronomical. Yeah. The next day I drove to work. And on the way between the Wako and south bend, there was eight slides that had slid far enough down a hill to get onto that meet

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[01:50:01] Doesn't I

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[01:50:17] You could still get, you just look down this giant crevasse.

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[01:50:23] Jeff Nesbitt: there there's guys working on it. Yeah. Have you driven to off of like, towards nasal the highway for that

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[01:50:32] Jeff Nesbitt: At least same deal. They're not even fixing that one. I don't think

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[01:50:35] It's so scary. Infrastructure is important.

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[01:50:41] Hannah Clardy: falling apart. I'm going to do about that. Who decides that? Is that more things we have to bitch about? We have to tweet at him about that. Get your Twitter out guys.

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[01:50:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:51:00] enough refuge system. That's very

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[01:51:06] Jeff Nesbitt: truly by now.

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[01:51:09] Hannah Clardy: It just had parking lots of miles

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[01:51:20] Hannah Clardy: Yeah. We absolutely have a gym. This is a very, I was reading.

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[01:51:42] It's fantastic. And the water quality I can drink. I can't what a gift it is to drink water from your tap comfortably and not be sick from it. And just, it tastes good. I love, I mean the water and that story, at least where I am on the sunny side is fantastic. Tap water on the peninsula. Usually [01:52:00] ocean park water, great

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[01:52:01] It's hit or miss. Most of it though is really good. Sometimes you might hit us swampy pocket every once in awhile. My place on cranberry was Bo

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[01:52:16] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. That's because so much fever shit washing down from the Hills.

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[01:52:32] Hannah Clardy: best ever. I bet. I can't remember if anyone that I hung out with had well water that I would know, maybe the Blisses did.

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[01:53:00] So I don't even remember how I got there, but we were me and the bliss twins were throwing. Green pine cones or green Alder cones at Jake, as he's like writing back and forth on the dirt bike without a helmet. And he's not supposed to. And we knocked him off the bike, which we were trying to do, but didn't think it would actually work.

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[01:53:37] Oh, my knee cap fell up. Where is it? I don't see it. Did it fall over here? , then I looked at his knee and it was just completely lapped open. And you could see it. No, no, no. I made him write his fucking bike. Cause I didn't want to get it. I didn't want us to get in trouble. So I wouldn't let him call my dad.

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[01:54:09] Hannah Clardy: him up. Oh my God. But yeah. Wild, those, those, uh, brothers, big brothers, sister.

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[01:54:23] Jeff Nesbitt: It's like, I know that. And so when I, my own kids I'm like, oh, what are they doing? We're not around. We're just starting to let them Brandy sit.

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[01:54:39] Hannah Clardy: Only by the grace of God. And I know too, like an Anderson gets to hang out with older cousins all the time and I know what that was like, you know? And it's like, I don't think that my niece had.

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[01:55:03] And it's like, mom and dad are gone. Yes. The bosses are gone. See you later. And I know he's sad cause they'll pick him up and he'll be like, I don't want to go home. I want to stay here and keep having fun. It's like, okay, well I'm here to ruin your time.

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[01:55:23] I don't want to go to the next thing. I'd never, she never wants to go. She just wants to stay where she is at all times. You want to go?

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[01:55:30] Jeff Nesbitt: made. Yes, exactly. I'm that way too.

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[01:55:39] Jeff Nesbitt: that's actually an ADHD thing too.

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[01:55:54] Hannah Clardy: live through it already

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[01:56:00] I think the term I'm actually scrambling for here is affective forecasting. That's affective forecasting with an a not effective forecasting.

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[01:56:27] Yes. So hard to do that, to motivate

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[01:56:33] Jeff Nesbitt: this all the time, but the next time it's still

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[01:56:48] Wow. And it's very meticulous. And you got to really hope that the person is doing their best to not blind you and fucking stab you and stuff, but you're awake for the most part, but your eyes are closed and you're just [01:57:00] laying there. And I have, I mean, she'll, the people will talk to you like you would any service, but like, I just have to live in my head for two hours awake, doing nothing.

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[01:57:26] It's just being effortless in the morning. But the two hours of like monotony to get there is like, it feels urgent and it's stupid because it's not, is it, is it hard to sit through

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[01:57:36] Hannah Clardy: talk about that? Um, I have, I have told like the girl that I just last got them done with, um, is very down to earth.

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[01:57:42] Jeff Nesbitt: So you don't pretend it's easy? No, I always

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[01:57:59] There is, [01:58:00] there would be times like, um, I got, uh, the person doesn't work in seaside anymore, but I got a not good eyelash set from a gal. She poked me a lot. And again, this is your eyes, very sensitive. Um, and so, um, I didn't say anything. I should have said something. And then when I was through with the service, I don't like how I looked and I never said anything about that either.

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[01:58:33] Jeff Nesbitt: about when they send you out a new one?

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[01:58:36] Hannah Clardy: If it were, you know, it seems that's the thing, but you know what? I think, I just think that there, I don't know, you

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[01:58:44] Hannah Clardy: think that people are, I do feel like I know, and I am vindictive enough. I wouldn't spit, but I want to see,

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[01:58:54] Hannah Clardy: their food.

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[01:59:09] Cause there are so many people around. They don't want to get caught or they don't want to whatever, but they're not going to. But I, I always think that I'm like, yeah, someone is going to be really mad. Like I got an, a, I drink a lot of ice tea, unsweetened, just pure, straight dirt earth water. And. Uh, I got an, I got a sweetened one at top golf last night and I was like, I can't do it.

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[01:59:33] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I hate that feeling though. That's happened to me with a coffee it's so

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[01:59:39] Jeff Nesbitt: like, I don't want this anymore because it doesn't taste good. The caffeine amount in here is barely noticeable amount. Not enough to really,

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[01:59:47] And I'm just going to be full in a full of liquid and not, and

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[02:00:02] Like act like I'm going to kick something just so they know. It's like, whoa, you deserve to know next time. I'll try harder on that coffee fuckers. It's like, well, you shouldn't have stopped using the coffee ice cubes. That's what did it, the coffee, ice cubes you ever had a CA an ice coffee, coffee, ice caves.

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[02:00:32] Hannah Clardy: something's like your signature, your staple, like that, it feels like I, it can't be that hard.

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[02:00:41] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, it doesn't seem that difficult, but they just didn't do it, but I still go there sometimes. And the coffee's not as good, but yeah, I go there cause I just like every once in a while, I just need to interact with the human. Yeah, I'll get a coffee.

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[02:00:55] Jeff Nesbitt: start a conversation. I don't even talk to them. I'm just in the presence of a human water while they're making me [02:01:00] a coffee. See, you see me? You're like, okay. I exist.

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[02:01:05] Jeff Nesbitt: It gets easy to start feeling like you're an alien.

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[02:01:21] Hannah Clardy: do when funding, we have actually, um, you and I have been to like three concerts together.

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[02:01:27] Jeff Nesbitt: is really interesting. Who do we go to see? We saw Guster

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[02:01:35] Jeff Nesbitt: France, first concert ever.

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[02:01:46] Um, and it was such a good one. Okay.

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[02:01:52] Hannah Clardy: It was one of those two, I think you're right. Maybe it was,

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[02:01:57] Hannah Clardy: And we remember, we ran into, we bought [02:02:00] tickets for Ms. Jacobson and her husband as a gift. Cause we Madeline and I were in a drama with her.

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[02:02:21] I don't think maybe we were, but we, we shouldn't have been, we weren't doing anything that we would have been noticed for, but we were like,

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[02:02:29] Hannah Clardy: I drank vodka. I remember that. Now we drank. That was good times really drunk. Yeah. Okay. That

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[02:02:39] That's also why I don't remember where we were.

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[02:02:44] Jeff Nesbitt: safe. We were safe. We did that fine. As far as, I mean, it's as safe as kids can be drinking. I

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[02:02:54] Jeff Nesbitt: honestly, I really wouldn't do it again. If I was to go back now, I would enjoy, I don't like being [02:03:00] drunk

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[02:03:00] It would get a little stone probably, but I don't know.

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[02:03:16] Hannah Clardy: shit. Absolutely.

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[02:03:22] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. And depending on what the alcohol is, I feel it almost right away. If I'm drinking wine, especially red wine, I feel heartburn. We can, the next two hours sucks. The whole night of sleep is just done.

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[02:03:35] Hannah Clardy: is the worst. That's part of my worst part. Cause then I don't sleep comfortably after that. No matter what, unless you're so drunk that you pass out and that's even worse. Yeah. Then

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[02:03:49] Hannah Clardy: He bought me tickets for my birthday to go see Jack Johnson at the Gorge. That'd be the next time we get out and go will be fun. That'd be really good. That's a great place to watch

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[02:03:58] Hannah Clardy: before? I have at the Gorge. And [02:04:00] then when I was like, I don't know, 12 or 13, so not as, uh, able to enjoy it as I would have hoped, but then Laney, Laney, Aaron Kelly, Brook Nesbitt.

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[02:04:31] And they were like, do you guys want to sleep under our tent? What the fuck? And we were like, thank God. So we had to sleep like, you know, body heat together, stacked up. I don't know why my mind is just telling the story the other day. Cause I was telling about the tickets and my mom was like, Why didn't any of you sleep in the car?

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[02:05:00] Jeff Nesbitt: somebody just forget or did no one ever talk about

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[02:05:02] We never talked about it. Not one time. And we, how did we bring blankets enough to have one to lay on? My mom was like, I'm surprised you weren't bit by rattlesnakes. And I was like, I guess, but she was like, I, they see Keat and I was just like, fucking, I don't know. We got lucky. The only bathrooms are, port-a-potties like a quarter mile away.

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[02:05:37] Jeff Nesbitt: it was like, it's a Sasquatch in 2006 with my dad., the music festival that was like three days long.

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[02:06:01] And of course, It was bad. I had driven all night to get there. It was eight o'clock in the morning and I decide I'm going to have my glass of whiskey now. So I poured a, basically a big plastic cup full of ice and McNaughton is

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[02:06:19] Jeff Nesbitt: Little bit of Coke just to make it sweet.

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[02:06:38] Hannah Clardy: on another, you're in another universe.

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[02:06:55] So I'm paralyzed. Everybody's voices. I can hear them, but they sound like they're very, [02:07:00] very far away. Yes. And a lot of it's nonsensical. It doesn't make sense. Time gets all weird and I can't open my eyes or move my body. It sucks. Oh my God. And um, this was the first time it had happened this bad. I think.

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[02:07:42] And I was like, I do not like this, but I know that it's probably going to help

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[02:07:56] Jeff Nesbitt: care what it is and open up and let him in. And so I did, and I [02:08:00] felt so violated for only just like five seconds.

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[02:08:12] Hannah Clardy: Yes. It feels like that annoyed. Like everything just comes back into check. Yeah. And

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[02:08:21] And so I had less than two all, if you're going to party, plan it out, take care of yourself and don't do it. When you're a kid,

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[02:08:38] Perfect. I don't know. I'd also, my only other message is if you're going to drink, try to get to sleep in your own bed because pissing your own bed is a lot better than pissing somebody

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[02:08:50] Hannah Clardy: drink your water, drink of water. It doesn't matter because it's going to be a lot less, , disgusting.

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[02:08:56] Jeff Nesbitt: dark

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[02:09:04] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh man. Yeah. That's one of the main things about hangovers electrolytes. Big time. Helpful. Bring it all out, man. Yeah. And just getting your body to function, right?

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[02:09:17] Hannah Clardy: Yeah. We'll get that right back for you. All the amino acids. Good salty, fatty breakfast. I like breakfast after a hangover feels good or anything like that. It's got a lot of that. Just putting that good. That good fat

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[02:09:29] Hannah Clardy: I'm getting it healing. It it's necessary. I don't drink often. I. I am literally only a social drinker. I will never drink alone. Not in a weird defiant way, but it's not never the thing that sounds

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[02:09:49] I have drank alone. I didn't feel ethically or morally like it was wrong. I didn't think it was an indicator of my life being anything, but I don't want to do that

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[02:10:05] Jeff Nesbitt: Whereas there are other things that I do prefer to consume alone. Like I dunno cakes, uh, great cakes in the dark. Although

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[02:10:24] Also a lot of drugs.

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[02:10:26] Jeff Nesbitt: It's fun. That's a really I'm not going to get whether we got it all already teach it to tar, start talking about drugs, but, um, Should we wrap this up? We can let's do it. That's fun. This was fun. Thank you, Hannah. For being here.

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[02:10:41] Jeff Nesbitt: Bye everybody. Bye.