Wish It Was Longer with Daniel Weyl

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[00:00:16] At the time of recording, it is Tuesday, September 26th. The year of our Lord 2023.

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[00:00:32] It's 7:00 AM. So I have rolled out of bed and I don't want to wake anybody else up in my house. It's a weekend. Let them relax. Let them have their time. My wife in particular, she likes to wake up slow, have a nice cup of coffee, you know, chill out. And I don't, So I like to get up and go somewhere, you know? Go out into the world and find an adventure or possibly a donut. Maybe even a biscuit and some gravy.

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[00:01:31] and then all of a sudden I see him dip off the road. Bang. He runs directly into a giant rock that is basically. Part of the hill. He, he ran into a mountain. And his truck bounced so hard that it flew 60 feet probably through the air. And landed across both lanes. Bam. And so now it's just there and Scott broken windshield smashed front. Everything's just. Destroyed tires popped. It's just a mess. And so I pull over really quickly and I start running towards the vehicle. Just as I come around the corner because I'm facing the passenger side. I see a little bit of movement in there and the door opens and this guy, shorter gentlemen, Hispanic guy comes just stepping out. A little bit shaky, but definitely alive. And given what I had just seen, I was relieved because I really did not want to find a dead body. Um, just, you know, For reasons that I'll explain in a few minutes, it was just not the right day for me to find a dead body. But luckily he was alive and it was a miracle because that, that vehicle just went flying through the air. it was cool. I helped that guy off the road and he was leaning up against the rocks I called and ambulance, and they came on down and. I called a tow truck and. Thought I'd just stick around and wait for state patrol.

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[00:03:02] Amelia. You're coming in. Let me open the door.

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[00:03:15] Jeff Nesbitt: I was just recording. Do you want to join me?

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[00:03:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Could you sit right here.

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[00:03:28] No, look at the pickup, pick it up and look at it.

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[00:03:40] What do you think?

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[00:03:53] Amelia Grace: when he was 14. Yep.

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[00:04:08] But I was pretty much done with that story. Do you want to say something? Do you want to talk.

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[00:04:21] Okay.

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[00:04:27] Amelia Grace: I'm five years old and I love to tooth.

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[00:04:34] Amelia Grace: Yes. I found $3. What three days later I found chocolate coin.

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[00:04:52] Amelia Grace: And so, yeah. My grandpa

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[00:04:57] Uh, he did. Huh? I'm so sorry to hear that. Are you feeling. Pretty sad about that. I'm so sorry. Your dad. I know what it is, but it's still sad for you too.

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[00:05:15] Amelia Grace: So dad, you think we should watch. Something mommy. And tell him about it.

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[00:05:33] What, what do you mean?

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[00:05:47] What if we Uh, , I got to finish the intro. Okay.

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[00:06:02] You can do one song. I'll pull up a beat. Get your freestyles ready.

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[00:06:08] Amelia Grace: So guys, a lot of stuff has changed from.

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[00:09:08] Amelia Grace: Like the table that used to be right here is gone.

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[00:09:18] Amelia Grace: our dog is now turning to

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[00:09:24] Amelia Grace: My brother's 14 bug. 15. Boy. There's 12. How's mom.

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[00:09:39] I am

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[00:09:42] Jeff Nesbitt: Things are good though. Huh? Life is good.

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[00:09:47] Amelia Grace: Dog. At Cooley has to hop on three.

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[00:09:59] She'll be okay though. Turn to peppered. The dog also turned to.

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[00:10:07] Amelia Grace: Avery turned two on the same day.

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[00:10:18] Amelia Grace: my gosh. Now she's the QT. So tiny too.

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[00:10:24] Amelia Grace: I can hold him.

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[00:10:29] Jeff Nesbitt: Um,

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[00:10:38] Amelia Grace: So you guys. We are. Uh, my dad might come back and we'll see you later. Bye.

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[00:10:49] Amelia Grace: guys. Bye. I'll come back a different time.

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[00:10:56] Hello and welcome to another

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[00:11:05] It is Tuesday, September 26th, 2023. And it has been a hell of a week. Hell of a week. Oh, I'll just cut right to the chase, guys. I have some sad news. I lost my dad last week. A lot of you know him and if you listen to the podcast much you've heard me talk about him before.

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[00:11:41] I am not gonna get into what happened or any of that stuff. I will probably talk about that stuff eventually when I'm feeling a little bit more, you know, capable of doing that without losing my shit. But for now, just suffice it to say he's, he's gone to a better place and he's not suffering at all anymore.

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[00:12:28] And every time we get together, even though it's painful and there's a lot of. Tears and feelings involved. It feels better. And when I'm back by myself again, I just feel kind of frozen emotionally. It's hard to really even make sense of it. Sometimes it doesn't even feel real. Other times I just feel totally numb.

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[00:13:09] It's been a big year for dad's dying. Shout out Cooper. Shout out CJ. So sorry guys.

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[00:13:58] He listened to every episode that I made, even when it was hard for him.

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[00:14:13] because I just felt like I needed to talk. I just needed to talk. And I didn't have...

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[00:14:43] I used this podcast as a way to communicate to my father who I am, how he shaped me. And although some of the stuff that happened in my childhood and things that were said and done weren't all perfect, I love them all and I cherish my childhood and I cherish my times that I had with him.

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[00:15:27] And I'm grateful for that. I really am.

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[00:15:33] I think at times we get caught up in trying to make sure people know who's right. And who's wrong? And when you have such a strong sense of justice in that way, enough that it holds you back from letting yourself love people, it's not good. I think sometimes that that did happen to me a little bit.

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[00:16:14] My dad was a hard man. He had a hard childhood, and he lived a hard life. But he was soft hearted. He had a really big heart, and he really loved to help people who really needed it.

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[00:16:43] I'm trying to think of a good example, like, well I could, for here, I would have really liked to have him as a guest on this podcast.

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[00:16:58] And we did discuss having that possibility as, uh, you know, we talked about it, but... Sometimes it was, he didn't want to do it, sometimes I was worried he would say the N word, sometimes, you know, and that was just

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[00:17:17] And that was just the guy he was.

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[00:17:27] I do the same thing. Not the N word thing, but I'm

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[00:17:34] The Oxford Dictionary defines impish as inclined to do slightly naughty things for fun. Mischievous. As in, he had an impish look about him, similar to mischievous, naughty, or wicked. Oh yeah, my dad was definitely impish, alright. About as impish as they come, but god damn he had a good heart.

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[00:18:33] And I think it was like the highlight of his year. And my dad was a big part of that and he went out of his way to make it cool. Like we'd go camping, we'd, you know, ride dirt bikes and have bonfires and just really do it up. And to kids in poverty that's just like magic.

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[00:19:07] Yeah, he didn't care much about things like looks, superficial shit.

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[00:19:27] It's hard to believe that it's the same guy who was laying in that bed.

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[00:20:00] Or maybe it's because I've just been blessed and my circles have remained intact for the most part.

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[00:20:20] That was really hard for me. And I grieved properly for that and I got over it. I really did. I feel it now when I think about Daisy. I don't, I don't feel like bursting into tears and losing it. I just feel happy. I have happy memories. I think it's going to be the same with my dad.

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[00:20:58] And life gets busy, and you don't get to see people that you love as much as you'd like, and that hurts. I have some guilt about that. I should have seen him more. He was lonely, and I, I was busy. But that's not something that I can change now. And it doesn't make me a bad person.

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[00:21:49] And uh... It was just really hitting me hard because stormy days, rainy days in general, especially this time of year, when my work schedule starts kind of winding down, uh, these kind of days are usually when I would go talk to him. I would go sit with him in the storm. Just talk. And I don't get to have that anymore.

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[00:22:35] Stories I was probably there for and he's probably telling wrong and I've heard them a thousand times, but I would just let him tell them again. And I'd just listen. And I'd tell them a little bit about my life, and be on my way, and that was great. And I, I did appreciate it then, I cherished those times.

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[00:23:01] But now, to be on the other side of it, and to see that like,

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[00:23:18] A lot of those days we would sit around and talk.

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[00:23:36] They didn't really completely split up. Well, I guess, I don't know, that's complicated to say, but they got divorced I think about six years later after they split up and they were on and off again that whole time. He was never really gone completely out of her life or any of ours because we're bonded by blood and my mom and dad had four kids together, they were bonded.

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[00:24:29] It feels like I took some kind of sadness drug. It's semi psychedelic. I feel like... Like, walking out of the hospital after he was gone, I felt like I was on some kind of a drug I'd never tried before. Not a good one. But, it felt like I was in a new reality, like things had just changed forever.

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[00:24:55] He didn't always get reflected wonderfully in the podcast. I'll admit it. Sometimes he was the butt of a joke. One or two. I really tried to stop doing that pretty early on, though, because I realized how quickly it, I realized very quickly that it was hurting them. And that's never been what I wanted to do.

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[00:25:36] But. I really should have been more careful about how I talked about him and stuff in the beginning. At times I was trying to get a rise out of him. I wanted him to interact with me and I wanted it to be fun for him too. I had envisioned him being like a regular guest on the podcast and him being like kind of a fixture in whatever kind of character, I don't know.

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[00:26:27] And one time he called me because he was concerned. He calls up and he said, Oh, Jeffrey. How you doing? I'm good, dad. Why? I just, uh, just thought I'd check on you. I was listening to the podcast and didn't sound good. I'll be honest, you didn't sound good. Have you been drinking?

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[00:27:16] And it feels great. And I'm kind of a slow learner. Some stuff takes me a while to catch on. Never did catch on to basketball. Can't dribble.

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[00:27:30] Yeah, he listened to, uh, one and a half episodes like that with me on Drunk Speed.

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[00:28:05] It didn't, yeah, you know, he just wasn't, he wasn't super affectionate. I knew he loved me. I just didn't hear it spoken a lot and he heard that and so I, I'm at home one day with the family and I get a phone call and it's my dad. And he said, hey Jeffrey,

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[00:28:29] I just wanted to tell you I love you.

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[00:28:40] And I'll tell you what, he has said it every time I've talked to him since. It was the last thing I ever said to him.

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[00:28:54] Those last moments were powerful.

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[00:29:09] and I was able to let it go.

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[00:29:48] I just loved him. I got to tell him thank you. I think,

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[00:30:31] I think if I've tried to have that conversation, and when he's... It's ended up with just a lot of back and forth, like, I don't know, I don't know what I'm even trying to say, but being there, holding his hand as he took his last breath, being able to kind of

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[00:31:08] And when he was gone, I mean, I felt wrecked. I still feel wrecked, but I know it's gonna pass, and it felt like it was finally done.

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[00:31:33] and now he's not,

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[00:31:45] Resting now, and it's at peace, and it's reabsorbed into this beautiful tapestry of energy that we are all part of. And he's no longer tethered to his rickety old fucking body that was falling apart on him. He's not tethered to that anymore. He's free. He's truly free. And I can see his smiling face.

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[00:32:19] Without the years of unappreciated work that he did, without all that heaviness just weighing him down, I see who he is without that now. And it's beautiful. I could see the man he never got to be.

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[00:32:49] I'm definitely not okay.

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[00:32:58] I've read enough about psychology to know that trying to just shove those feelings down is a recipe for disaster. And I'm a verbal processor.

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[00:33:31] Everybody's got their shit. And I love you, and I hope it's okay.

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[00:33:56] But, I wish I had, because I miss, I miss his face. And I want to, I want to look at it.

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[00:34:29] It just fucking hurts.

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[00:34:37] if you're lucky, you'll have

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[00:34:43] You'll have a scar

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[00:34:59] And that's what it's all about, baby. You don't get that much time. Every one of these heartbreaks adds to that richness of your character.

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[00:35:13] And I'll tell you what. Seeing my dad in his last moments made me feel a lot better about my own health. I've been struggling. I've been feeling shitty, and trying to figure out what's wrong, and it's not going great, and who cares? It's all just temporary. It's all over so fast. Why worry about it? I feel pretty good.

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[00:35:47] Last night I'm walking up the stairs at about 2am and I run into a cute little 5 year old, little blonde girl standing on the stairs looking for her dad. She had seen me walk past and decided to follow me downstairs. And she like reacted as if she thought I was going to get mad, like she's up out of bed

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[00:36:35] Some of which are painful, but it's an experience that is uniquely human. And I got to do it. And he helped me do it. He made that possible for me. Just,

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[00:36:57] I love you, and I'll see you in the next one.

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[00:37:11] Alright guys, thank you so much for being here today. It really is a beautiful day. My guest on the podcast today is a friend of mine, another local boy, Daniel Weil. Daniel, I'm sorry that I, uh... Use the intro of your episode as a therapy session and I'm sorry my dad died and it ruined your, uh, your expectations for what an intro could be but I guess it's not always about you, is it, Daniel?

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[00:37:42] Alright. Thank you guys so much for being here today. It's a wild one. I'm off the rails but, you know, let's just get this thing going. Let's get it going, okay? My guest today is a local boy. He's, uh... A really good dude, you know, I can't say too much about him because I don't want to ruin the surprise. He's a really interesting dude, he's fun to hang out with, he's smart, he's hilarious, and, uh, yeah, we had a good time. We came in and recorded this a couple days, well, let's see, a couple days before my dad passed,

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[00:38:42] I apologize for the... The sad, weepy intro, but I couldn't, I just, I, you know, I'm off, I'm off right now, you know, things are off, but I still want to keep doing this, I still want to keep talking, and my tendency to just clam up is not healthy, so I'm going to keep on talking,

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[00:39:01] We're going to do a quick message from our sponsor, and then we'll get to the show.

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[00:40:20] Without further ado, please welcome the impish and charming Daniel Weil.

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[00:41:29] Jeff Nesbitt: Check, check, check. Checkity check. Sounds pretty good. That's nice. Isn't that nice? Makes me want to whisper. Yeah, you can whisper. Yeah, maybe. People you do that. Yeah, maybe. Cool. That's definitely staying in. Alright, I actually have to piss too. Hit it.

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[00:41:56] You can actually hear the cottonmouth.

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[00:42:05] mics are these?

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[00:42:16] Daniel Weyl: I know, uh, Shure makes good snare mics,

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[00:42:32] Like, any Mercedes car. Yeah, yeah. Um, or, you know. Whatever. Yeah. But, yeah, they're good mics.

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[00:42:49] You clamp it right there. Yeah.

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[00:42:59] Daniel Weyl: What? An overwhelming amount of possibility you can do. Yeah. With audio.

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[00:43:17] Daniel Weyl: I don't consider myself melodically talented. Rhythm I can do. Yeah. But.

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[00:43:30] Daniel Weyl: Um, I guess musician covers a lot of different facets, but...

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[00:43:40] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, um, you have to wear a funny hat, mostly. Have, like,

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[00:43:48] Yeah, absolutely. And think that you're lazy. Yeah, well,

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[00:44:09] Jeff Nesbitt: It sounded podcast y though. We can clip that. Yeah, keep that in for sure.

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[00:44:18] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, I don't know what qualifies as a musician, to be honest. Besides playing an instrument. Yeah. But I, sometimes I don't consider a drum an instrument. Because if you, somebody says to play a song, there's only like two or three songs that they will instantly recognize.

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[00:44:35] Jeff Nesbitt: drums alone? By drums alone. Like What are those songs even? I'd

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[00:44:43] I

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[00:44:47] Daniel Weyl: Um,

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[00:44:54] Daniel Weyl: My thighs are too bony to be drums, they're more xylophony.

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[00:44:59] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, okay, well, the music thing, I feel like a lot of people who are musicians are just like, afraid to call themselves that. Same with art in general. All art. Yeah,

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[00:45:17] Jeff Nesbitt: with it.

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[00:45:21] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. So, I mostly just consider it a hobby. You know, you could write an essay and say you're a writer, which I've done. Yeah.

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[00:45:38] Daniel Weyl: Enjoy writing, not so much anymore, but back in the day, but...

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[00:45:48] No,

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[00:45:53] Jeff Nesbitt: novel. A novel, no. I'd get bored. Too fast. I get bored with every kind of artistic pursuit, and I start hating it, just like we were just talking about the other day. Yeah, yeah. Like, you wait until you have time to do something like that, and that also happens to be when you're exhausted because you've used up all your rest of your time doing work.

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[00:46:19] Daniel Weyl: more of an idea guy. Yeah, yeah. Finding the spiderweb, or like, uh, what do you call that? Brainstorming of a novel is fun. Yeah. Finding the, you can think of a few people, maybe it's in the community or your family.

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[00:46:54] Um, but, so, and it's based off of events of my life. Like when I was working in the Bay. Yeah. So, opening scene. Guys tinkering on an airboat. Um, like working on the airboat, and uh, yeah, somebody else who, we don't really know the characters yet, but some guy jumps in the boat, gets in the, into the cage, like to work on the engine, and um.

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[00:47:33] Daniel Weyl: prompt chopped.

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[00:47:35] Jeff Nesbitt: disfigured. Yeah. Um, and then But somebody else gets on the boat and starts it up, and the guy gets fuckin prop chopped. Yeah. And, uh, either, either it just, like, just demolishes him and he's just a bloody puddle. Yeah, yeah. Which would be cool for a show to start, cause then you, like, then you backtrack.

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[00:48:14] Right. So we still got that character. And that's what happened in real life. That, yeah, I was about to

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[00:48:23] Jeff Nesbitt: but I was there. I synced

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[00:48:27] Jeff Nesbitt: Rob Torpa. Rob Torpa. Right to the ground. Man, you clueless son of a bitch.

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[00:48:51] Shout out Robert Torpa if you're still out there. Yeah. Um, but the guy who chopped him, uh, Brian. Yeah. Shoutout Brian. Uh. This is fun. I don't know what happened to him either, honestly. I went to college with his sister, she was cool. Colette. Actually, Brian was really cool too. He was a neat dude. It's kind of a shame that he tried to karate chop Rob Torpo to death.

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[00:49:19] Jeff Nesbitt: or... Oh, hell yeah. I'd brush with Colette.

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[00:49:25] Jeff Nesbitt: Get in my mouth, Colette. No, no. Yeah,

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[00:49:34] Jeff Nesbitt: really. I mean... Think about, as a, just as a premise, like a framework for a television show, characters like Ed...

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[00:49:57] Daniel Weyl: uh, Jamison is a character's name.

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[00:50:04] Oh. Um, JK Simmons. He got a hog on him. He, he better because the ladies are gonna be expecting it. Yeah.

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[00:50:17] Jeff Nesbitt: it's horrible. Yeah. I got that. Okay. Dick. Yeah. It's mediocre at best. Right? Anyway, anyway, um, yeah. Who would play? Let's see, who would play Ed?

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[00:50:31] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. He needs a mustache, but other than that, oh, well, he had a hair, too. But, um, yeah. No, I think

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[00:50:50] I'd take that for a ride. Oh, man. Can you imagine? I

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[00:50:58] Jeff Nesbitt: in the bay? Hmm, I've never known. Garden... Oh, are you talking about on the webs or in the grass? In the...

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[00:51:07] Jeff Nesbitt: yellow and black. Do they have stripe legs?

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[00:51:10] Daniel Weyl: I don't know, I just walked through them. How big are they? Uh, about a quarter

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[00:51:26] Hell yeah. Not scary. You can let them crawl right on your hand. They're, they're, uh, they're fat like that because they're full of eggs. They're getting ready to let out their eggs right now, so they're just getting fattened up. But there's a fuckload of them out there. This is the time of year you go out in the bay every morning.

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[00:51:42] Daniel Weyl: I'm, I'm okay with spiders. Yeah. I do alright with

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[00:52:03] Yeah. No matter what kind of spider it was. But that's just not true. Yeah, you were being

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[00:52:13] Jeff Nesbitt: sort. That's a much better irrational thought, though. If you're gonna be delusional, I say make it grandeur. Yeah. Yeah.

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[00:52:39] Daniel Weyl: thinking that everybody

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[00:52:40] I don't actually have delusions, in case you're listening and your opinion matters, about my competence. That they're real. No, God seriously has a purpose for me, and I'm figuring it out. I hear messages, but yeah. No, I don't have delusions. But, um.

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[00:53:14] Yeah. People have been talking. That's just true. Yeah. And I'm okay with that. Okay. Yeah. Earlier you mentioned that you're actually more comfortable with the knowledge that people dislike you. You don't want them to like you. Yeah. What'd you mean by that?

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[00:53:42] Yeah, you're neutral. But a good first impression, and then, um, you know, totally annihilating that, you're... You're less than the devil at that point. You're the talk of the town, you're the piece of shit, fucking... Does that make sense? Like you've had a fall from grace? A fall from grace, yeah. So, what I like to do is be an impish bastard all the time so that if somebody comes up to me and expects not to like me, and I'm...

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[00:54:21] Jeff Nesbitt: I need to be. And that's... They're alright. You exceeded expectations. Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I get it. Which

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[00:54:32] Jeff Nesbitt: existence. Yeah, but it requires a lot less upkeep. For sure. Than, like, trying to manage a, like, what you'd call a good reputation.

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[00:54:41] Daniel Weyl: yes. Which, I do, I mean, you know... A lot of work. Yeah, it does,

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[00:54:57] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. And I'm okay with that. I can do well with that.

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[00:55:05] Jeff Nesbitt: the scenes. That puts you in a pretty good position if you're actually proficient. Sure. At anything. Cause then it's just like, did you guys hear about this impish character Daniel? Turns out, he's fucking awesome. Even if you're just barely over average.

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[00:55:19] Daniel Weyl: three frogs out at fuckin Bay

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[00:55:27] Daniel Weyl: with the spotlight and the, and the fish hook? We'll say yes. Then yeah, dude. I've caught plenty of

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[00:55:41] They call it gigging. Is it? Frog gigging. Gigging frogs. Like shoving a pinky up its

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[00:55:45] Jeff Nesbitt: What is that? I think it just means catching them. Oh, okay. But I mean, what you do with them after you catch them is up to you.

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[00:55:54] Jeff Nesbitt: Have you eaten

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[00:56:03] Jeff Nesbitt: He got you feeling weird, huh? Couldn't find any cockroaches?

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[00:56:22] Jeff Nesbitt: Swampier? It's got to taste swampier. But, yeah. They breathe through their skin, right? Do they? That's a permeable layer.

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[00:56:33] Jeff Nesbitt: can't. We'll cut that out. They don't do that.

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[00:56:39] Amphibians, which includes frogs salamanders. Things like that. They breathe through their skin, which is permeable and moist. Crazy. There are even some salamanders and frogs that don't have lungs or gills at all. And they receive a hundred percent of their oxygen. From their skin. The more, you know,

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[00:57:09] Pretty sure, yeah,

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[00:57:18] that? Makes a lot of sense, actually. Why don't dogs do that? Save them some time. Yeah. They fuckin roll in it. Like, why not just piss it right out of your skin?

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[00:57:26] Daniel Weyl: do dogs sweat? Cause I've heard...

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[00:57:37] Daniel Weyl: they're just as anxious as I am.

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[00:57:44] It's worse than that. But uh. Have you had

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[00:58:01] Jeff Nesbitt: him up, clog him right up. Yeah. Also, just, I used to also have a problem with sweating, with the pits, in college.

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[00:58:27] The last time I remember it happening was when I was taking the test for the drone certification.

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[00:58:35] Jeff Nesbitt: always stressful. Yeah. I fucking love them. I find it exhilarating.

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[00:58:44] Jeff Nesbitt: Well, they didn't teach us how to retain knowledge for very long. They taught us how to dump it into your head and then dump it onto a test score sheet. And then you go on with your life. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, well,

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[00:58:57] Jeff Nesbitt: way. It'd be cool.

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[00:59:16] Yeah, and lie doing it. And lie doing it. Yeah. Yeah.

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[00:59:20] Jeff Nesbitt: profession. Oh yeah, professional dishonesty. That

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[00:59:26] Jeff Nesbitt: shit. Like Yeah, another professional dishonesty field. Yeah,

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[00:59:39] Jeff Nesbitt: It's awesome. Yeah. And it's all like, celebrated. And it actually moved the needle in terms of a culture, society, all those things. Like, things happen because of legal proceedings. Absolutely. So it's kind of needed.

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[00:59:55] Jeff Nesbitt: Amber Heard? You know I did. Yeah. Everybody did.

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[00:59:59] Jeff Nesbitt: documentary, or were you, okay.

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[01:00:08] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, you're not supposed to like People Magazine until you flip through one page and realize fuckin Robert De Niro is gay or... Or, you know. Autistic, whatever.

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[01:00:24] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. Every time. Anna De Armas is mine. Where, where did she come from? Uh, I don't know.

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[01:00:44] Frail. She seemed frail. Really? Get that girl some vitamins. I don't know. I think, I think you like a frail one, don't

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[01:00:53] Jeff Nesbitt: would bounce right off. So she can't escape. . Yeah. Absorb or what a wait. You think she looked

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[01:01:04] Hmm. The supple. So supple. She did look very supple. Yeah. So, yeah. My girlfriend's gonna kill me, but, but you know what I mean?

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[01:01:15] Daniel Weyl: It was, yeah. Yeah, it's always for science.

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[01:01:34] Jeff Nesbitt: celebrity crush. Just

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[01:01:39] Jeff Nesbitt: That I can do. Well, yeah, because they're not meaningful. So, they really aren't.

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[01:01:50] Daniel Weyl: she's probably a bitch. Most

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[01:01:54] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, I don't even like her anymore.

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[01:02:10] Yeah. It started out as like a fun getting to know each other conversation. Yeah. Um, and she asked me who, like, or actually first it was she told me her celebrity crush and, um, it was framed as like a question. It was like who would, the celebrity that you would hook up with if you could. I'm pretty sure that was it.

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[01:02:51] What? Bardem, Javier Bardem. Don't know him. Javier Bardem. Nothing like me.

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[01:03:09] Jeff Nesbitt: It was quick, dude. Links. She is like, right on Javier Bardem. And, honestly, I think because of the fact that it wasn't...

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[01:03:38] 'cause that would've kept me on my toes. Yeah, yeah, yeah. It would've kept me from saying the things that I said shortly after that. Oh, okay. And, um, okay. Well, who, yeah, so she said somebody who's like, kind of ugly and old. Um, I didn't realize this at the time. She was trying to protect my feelings, trying to make like, Yeah, I've had this same conversation, not to give me somebody who's going to actually flare up my jealousy, which she didn't realize at the time, I don't really have.

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[01:04:10] Jeff Nesbitt: how does that make me? Yeah, there was lots of complications to it. I found the whole thing confusing, but she wasn't crying yet, so things were good. Okay. Then she asked me, and who do you think I picked? Scar Jo?

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[01:04:32] Jeff Nesbitt: would really make your girlfriend mad, doesn't matter who your girlfriend is. Jolie. No, too old.

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[01:04:41] Oh,

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[01:04:49] Daniel Weyl: She's

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[01:05:00] Flirtin with the line of Legally. Like, I...

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[01:05:09] Jeff Nesbitt: Hathaway? Who are the most famous women, and also the most hated? Oh. It's a family.

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[01:05:18] Jeff Nesbitt: it is. Her younger sister.

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[01:05:22] Jeff Nesbitt: Kylie... It was Kylie. Corey... I think it was... Yeah, it was definitely Kylie. Yeah. I said Kylie Jenner.

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[01:05:27] Daniel Weyl: competing with

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[01:05:49] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. Was that the birds and the beebs and the trap birds and the... What album was that?

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[01:06:02] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, okay. Okay, so back to Ky you listed Kyla, you

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[01:06:13] It made her feel real bad, and I didn't get it. So you kept going with it? Well, I tried to justify it. I tried to explain myself. Oh, that's a pshh, bad move, brother. It was a dumb move. It was a dumb move. And, um, I think that was the first time I ever made her cry.

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[01:06:36] She was lying. And that crushed me.

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[01:06:48] Daniel Weyl: But now I get it. Now I definitely get it.

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[01:06:56] The guy has got... Riz. Riz. It was the Riz. Riz'd up. He got him, he got you with the Riz.

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[01:07:16] Now it's roles reversed, Eminem, can't even fucking listen to a song of his.

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[01:07:22] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, it's so bad. Really? Yeah. Like, his classic stuff's okay. His Eminem's

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[01:07:38] Not good. It was a freestyle, but it was Probably MGK. It was, yeah. But he didn't use a backing track or any kind of a beat. He just kinda

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[01:07:47] Jeff Nesbitt: go acapella? Yeah. Yeah. And it sounded Fuck a doc, fuck a clock. Yeah, exactly. His rhymes are, I don't know, they seem super easy. Eminem? Yeah, it seems like before Eminem, they tried to fit stuff into a certain pattern, and then he fit the pattern around the words.

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[01:08:17] Daniel Weyl: well I think he's an excellent rapper, he's just, uh, it's just It's not easy listening anymore. It's like, it's like freeform jazz or something. Yeah. You might as well just fucking put some headphones on, close your eyes, and try to listen to the lyrics, but it's not...

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[01:08:32] Jeff Nesbitt: then, it's like, what the pattern, and you don't, you can't, can't lock in. Yeah, it

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[01:08:41] Jeff Nesbitt: trying too hard.

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[01:08:50] Jeff Nesbitt: or something. Like in the old days, back when rock and roll ruled. Hell yeah. Is that a true story?

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[01:09:03] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. My girlfriend and I like to quote, uh, Sharon'll come into a room and he's just standing there like a fucking zombie. And he's shouting, Where's into my room and drank my fucking beer. And Sharon, Who could've came in here fucking here?

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[01:09:26] Jeff Nesbitt: I can find the remote control. I remember him bitching about the remote control a lot.

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[01:09:40] Jeff Nesbitt: animal. Oh, yeah.

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[01:09:52] Daniel Weyl: bizarre. It's like somebody has a switch in the back of him, right?

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[01:10:01] Yeah. Goddamn. You think Kanye West is a clone? How'd he get so tall? I just read that yesterday.

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[01:10:23] That's not my

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[01:10:29] Daniel Weyl: so I think, I think, wait, five second clip of him walking up to a runway, and it's just him posing, right? Jewish lives matter, shared on. Confusing. And then, yeah, very, and then walks back. That's really the whole video. And then the next, you know, I'm like, what are the comments on this?

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[01:11:02] Jeff Nesbitt: knows. Well, um, all I know is that Kanye's controversy has really brought the crazies out. Yeah. Like, they think he's a lot of people have.

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[01:11:19] Daniel Weyl: yeah. Well, they thought Donald Trump would scour the earth of the cabal of vicious pedophiles, but You see him with pictures of fucking Epstein on that bitch.

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[01:11:32] Fucking prowling and shit.

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[01:11:37] Jeff Nesbitt: really. Me too. I like to criticize everything.

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[01:11:44] Jeff Nesbitt: Me too. I can't stop, dude. It's fun. I

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[01:11:50] Jeff Nesbitt: I mean, even though people hate to admit this, half the stuff he says is the thing that people want to hear.

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[01:12:07] Daniel Weyl: And it's, and it could be the populace is ignorant and whatever he is saying, you know, is to appease that. Yeah. It doesn't mean it's a policy in the next five years.

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[01:12:21] Jeff Nesbitt: didn't even seem like he really had policies. That's a little fancy for him. No, he was too cool. He was just, you know, calling shots. Yeah, yeah. Making shit happen, making moves. Yeah, yeah. Art of the deal type shit. Yeah,

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[01:12:37] Jeff Nesbitt: I like him. Yeah,

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[01:12:42] Just, uh, I mean you hear the entire, you know, growing up I'd always hear my parents never trust the politicians. The politicians are this. The politicians are that. Uh, you know, fuck them. And then some guy says fuck them. Fuck these guys. He's got small hands. He's got a fucking bird mouth. Um, and that's hilarious.

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[01:13:05] Jeff Nesbitt: resonates. It really does. It's like, feels more real. Yeah. Even though as that's pretty crazy. Yeah. That, that, that that's what we're looking for in our leaders. But, um, and it is point, and it's not healthy. It's not, country's not healthy. By it you mean our country. Right. Our, our society. Yeah. Is not healthy.

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[01:13:39] Daniel Weyl: Meaningless

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[01:13:48] Yeah, yeah. But the meaningless horseshit is a lot more. Which you can't

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[01:13:58] Jeff Nesbitt: in that. I got it. You want it? I got it. You have the list? I think I do. Really? Yeah, I think I do. How'd you get it? On TikTok. What?

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[01:14:27] So

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[01:14:40] Jeff Nesbitt: depends. We just get so the. This is what I never got before I got on TikTok, is the algorithm is actually good enough to know what you want to see, and I don't know how it does it, but it actually does.

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[01:14:51] Daniel Weyl: want to see pedophiles, and I want to see pedophiles now!

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[01:15:03] Daniel Weyl: So is it like an Excel spreadsheet or is

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[01:15:12] And it was, it was all the names that you would expect. Yeah. Tom Hanks, Kevin Spacey, Bill Clinton, all of those names. But then it was also names that Yeah, Rick Bishop. If He would be so lucky. You know, he was not getting that invite. He's a meddling

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[01:15:28] Jeff Nesbitt: tier. Bottom tier. D tier. Bottom. Yeah.

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[01:15:36] Daniel Weyl: soap. Oh

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[01:15:56] Yeah, yeah, yeah. Uh, because I started losing my mind. Like, maybe not losing my mind, but losing my sense of peace. In a paranoid sense? Not, no, in a investigatory sense, where like, I was looking at real shit. Not, not like having a feeling that I was being watched, but actually like, Looking up data that says, like, oh yeah, we are watching you and this is the information that we are taking from you, this is where we store it, these are the people we sell it to, this is real things happening, that's not paranoia.

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[01:16:44] Paranoia is not logical or rational, but it is rational to have some... It can be, yeah. Some sneaking suspicions that the people who are taking all your data are not necessarily doing it with your best intention, with your best interest in mind. Yeah, you don't know if a

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[01:17:01] Jeff Nesbitt: Exactly. Yeah. But if it is for sure... And you know it is, you might not want to look at it. You know what I mean? Like, if the threat is real, but you know that there's nothing you can do about it. Yeah, all I have is a fucking wooden spear. Yeah, are you gonna sit there and stare at it as it approaches, or are you gonna go on with your life and hope for the best?

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[01:17:42] Absolutely.

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[01:18:07] I mean, but what are we going to do besides build our own community? You know what I mean? And even then? And even then, you still got these fucking English teachers

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[01:18:26] Daniel Weyl: Kids.

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[01:18:29] Daniel Weyl: He was actually my basketball coach,

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[01:18:33] Daniel Weyl: No, I mean,

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[01:18:46] Daniel Weyl: Um, I don't remember anything particularly egregious.

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[01:18:51] Jeff Nesbitt: coach. You have big gaps in that, in those memories? Big gapes. Big gaps? Blocked it out, did ya?

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[01:19:03] Jeff Nesbitt: Were you a pretty child? Cringy child.

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[01:19:12] Jeff Nesbitt: You were a cringy teenager till you were 25.

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[01:19:14] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, ask anybody.

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[01:19:20] Daniel Weyl: I make people uncomfortable, and that's Me too. See, I'm okay

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[01:19:35] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, I shoot that fucker down with a fucking bow and arrow. Which I've never shot. I've never shot a bow and arrow before in my

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[01:19:44] Daniel Weyl: version? I bought my nephew a suction cup dart,

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[01:19:51] Daniel Weyl: How was it? It was a little pussy, couldn't even pull it back.

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[01:19:57] Jeff Nesbitt: a compound bow. Never shot a compound bow. Yeah.

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[01:20:03] Jeff Nesbitt: love it when you

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[01:20:10] I would try though. I'd like to get into hunting. I've never, you know. I've never done it really. I think I'm going to go duck hunting this winter. Um,

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[01:20:22] Daniel Weyl: he? Yeah. I need a kid to show me the ropes.

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[01:20:32] Um, I love killing shit, obviously. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um, it's just a lot

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[01:20:54] I don't know the skinning part or the gutting part, which I'm fine with blood and guts. I'm, I'm alright with that. Um, but the meat is what I'm in it for. Yeah. I'm fucking, I want to stock a freezer. Yeah. So I don't have to go get fucking... Hormone meat. H hormoned up meat that's too expensive.

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[01:21:16] It's getting worse. It's, yeah,

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[01:21:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Would you pull that thing up just a little bit? Yeah, right here? Perfect. Oh yeah. Yeah, that's better. Um, but yeah, no, I, I love having meat in the freezer. Even though, like, a lot of meat wants to just like... Go get a burger instead of cooking what I have in the freezer.

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[01:21:56] Yeah, when it's when it's still frozen and I know that's like, oh, I got a thought out. I gotta fucking cook it. I gotta make sure this stuff to go with all that stuff. Just laziness. Like, uh, yesterday I didn't eat breakfast. I don't know. Yeah, no, I didn't eat breakfast. I didn't eat lunch. I got home. I worked out and I was tired.

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[01:22:40] I get in these bad cycles and I know that like, if I just go thaw out some meat, cook the meat and eat it, that's going to save not only the rest of this night, but I'll sleep better, I'll feel better tomorrow, and in the long run I'll actually be healthy because I'm doing what my body needs. I just don't want to.

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[01:23:08] Daniel Weyl: a lot of people our age don't like to cook too. And I actually do. I do as well. I'm okay at it. Um, I actually learned quite a bit just watching John Oakes on the boat.

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[01:23:44] It's not the end of the world. It still turns into a piece of

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[01:23:59] Daniel Weyl: Yeah.

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[01:24:06] Jeff Nesbitt: enjoy it. Do you want some? We have a bunch in the freezer. I mean, I won't say no. I'll get you some duck breasts. Really? Yeah, there's a bunch in there. You have any duck thighs?

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[01:24:21] Daniel Weyl: Is a duck dick all curled and whatnot? Spiraled?

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[01:24:28] Daniel Weyl: Let's pull it up. Yeah. Cats, cats cock versus duck cock. Search that.

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[01:24:37] Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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[01:24:43] Jeff Nesbitt: Chewy. Is it? It says chewy. This is how ducks fuck, and it's pretty incredible. Yeah. Buzzfeed article. It's a sexual arms race, the phrase most often used to describe the duck genitalia, and it's not hard to see why. Yeah, same. Okay, so, they have a corkscrew shaped penis that springs out from their body in less than half a second.

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[01:25:15] Daniel Weyl: centimeters? That's pretty big. That's

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[01:25:25] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, do a conversion here. 20 centimeters. My guess is

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[01:25:39] That's totally average. Imagine if it was uncorkscrewed, like, pulled out straight. Oh. We'd probably reach in close and knock a ten inch dick. Yeah. What... Duck dicks. Who knew? Yeah.

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[01:25:53] Jeff Nesbitt: guess so. You could kinda tell by his attitude. Yeah. Yeah, he...

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[01:26:04] Is the female Duck, pussy reverse thread

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[01:26:24] Yeah. It, and they do it like, uh, they'll gang up. It's a gang rape situation. Duck train. Wow.

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[01:26:40] Jeff Nesbitt: duck. Probably they never know. They just like, all put in a load, like names in a hat. Oh yeah. Or maybe there's multiple, like a duck, I mean she's putting out more than one egg.

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[01:27:13] Yeah. In the same

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[01:27:16] Jeff Nesbitt: I never knew that. I mean, think about that. She's receptive, she's got available eggs, and they're all Or more than one. Yeah, because, I mean, a litter of puppies, it could be up to, like That's true. Fifteen puppies. Yeah. And they're just all waiting to be fertilized, those eggs.

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[01:27:34] Daniel Weyl: in there.

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[01:27:37] Daniel Weyl: Um, I'm just imagining a bunch of like sperms racing to get to me. I

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[01:27:42] Daniel Weyl: Mario Kart may be a better one

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[01:27:46] Yeah. Red Shells. Yeah. I love me a Red Shell. Yeah.

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[01:27:50] Jeff Nesbitt: hit you in first though. See, I didn't even have Blue Shells. I'm talking Super Nintendo. Oh, and 64. Super. Oh, wow. Like the Ridge. Yeah. Yeah. I know. I actually am starting to feel old as fuck. There didn't it wasn't very long ago that millennials were still like the kids.

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[01:28:13] Daniel Weyl: Are you the avocado toast or am I? Yeah. I think you're

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[01:28:18] Daniel Weyl: No, I think I'm a fringer. I, I am. I'm a, I'm a 96er and I think that was a cutoff for Millennial to X or Z? No,

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[01:28:29] Yeah, X, X is uh, between Millennials and Boomers. So Gen X is like my parents. Yeah. Um, born, okay, so actually remember that they're, they're on the cusp too. So Gen Xers, um, I think they go from 1962 to 1982. Okay. Uh, birth. And then after 82 is Millennials, up through like 95. Yeah, 95. Okay. And 96 in there somewhere.

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[01:29:01] Daniel Weyl: Zoomer. Maybe. That's fucking hard to think about.

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[01:29:06] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. I think, right at the Is there a month and day cutoff for these? Let's see. Let's see this.

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[01:29:16] Daniel Weyl: old people calling my generation a piece of

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[01:29:26] Daniel Weyl: yeah. I don't know. I'm happy to do it too. I'm nothing against them.

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[01:29:29] Jeff Nesbitt: already started. Yeah. These fucking kids. Yeah. Um, anyway. The Greatest Generation was born 1901 through 1924. The Silent Generation, born 1925 1945, yeah. The Baby Boomers. The Baby Boomers, born 1946 64. Okay. My parents were both born in 64, so they were the very last year of the Boomers, or Generation X.

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[01:30:02] Daniel Weyl: Oh. So I'm a Z. You're a

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[01:30:13] Daniel Weyl: Wow, that's way cooler

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[01:30:18] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, that's fucked up. I got

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[01:30:26] Are you kidding me? They'd be putting you in your place right away. Yeah,

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[01:30:32] Jeff Nesbitt: old fuckin bitch. Except, yeah, except for the fact they can't interact in public face to face with humans. Right.

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[01:30:46] Yeah.

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[01:30:48] Daniel Weyl: Exactly. That kinda just threw me off. What does that mean? What do the

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[01:31:10] What is

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[01:31:20] Jeff Nesbitt: So there was... Like Homestar Runner? Do you remember that? That was a Flash based thing, too. Um, maybe. It had, like, games and shit, but, anyway, sorry.

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[01:31:29] Daniel Weyl: so it was all within the browser. So you could go onto RuneScape. com, you'd create a character, and it was the first, like, super popular,

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[01:31:44] Daniel Weyl: Shit, I don't know. Maybe 2004? Okay.

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[01:32:10] Oh, I mean, yeah. Yeah. Not specifically, but not not that. Right. Not not that.

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[01:32:22] Jeff Nesbitt: unreal. Yeah. I, see, that's, that's what it is, the cutoff. You had to watch Faces of Death online.

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[01:32:43] Daniel Weyl: you. Yeah, I mean, if you could still go down the, I mean, ISIS, and that's all

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[01:32:48] They're showing that in elementary schools these days. Yeah.

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[01:32:54] Jeff Nesbitt: shit. Yeah. That's probably a pretty defining moment for the generations. I don't even remember it. There you go. See, I remember it well. I was 13. I was at seven in seventh grade. Yeah. And um, I remember it very well.

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[01:33:31] Yeah. And planes flying into it. It was just like, Endless. Endless. Endless.

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[01:33:39] Jeff Nesbitt: dude. Storm and Norman's? What do they do?

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[01:33:51] It's the same rotational garbage. Lifeguard hoodies.

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[01:33:58] Daniel Weyl: don't know the owner of Storm and Norman's, so I'm just gonna keep

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[01:34:13] He had like a heart attack or something and it changed him. He was like the nicest man. Yeah. And I think he's dead now. Yeah.

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[01:34:24] Jeff Nesbitt: shout out Storm and Normans.

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[01:34:30] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't even know what he was

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[01:34:35] But anyway, RuneScape. Let me just Oh, RuneScape. Touch base back onto this. So, uh, totally in browser game, like a World of Warcraft type deal. You make your own character, you build up your mining skills, your firewood. Gathering. Anyways, I never played it for that. I would always go right into the town center and get up enough gold to

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[01:34:58] Macking on some bitches. Subs Yeah, and I just

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[01:35:01] Jeff Nesbitt: you know, copy and paste. Oh, by the way, also, when you buy them, they're not your girlfriend. I know. They're prostitutes. Yeah,

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[01:35:23] So he could get any toothless whore he wanted. But anyway, I bought a girlfriend and we'd talk and talk and talk. I'd get off school in the 5th or 6th grade, I don't remember. Uh, anyway, I give her my parents phone number, the home phone. And, uh, The fucking phone rings and my heart drops and I'm like, oh, it's a beau, my first beautiful woman ever.

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[01:36:14] You went with it? I was unnerving. I went with it. That was unnerving.

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[01:36:22] Daniel Weyl: Um, I'd say probably about 10 15 seconds. But that feels like 10 or

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[01:36:32] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, and we hung out, too. Not in real life, but I was, you know, I'm like, Hey, meet me at Falador, fuckin

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[01:36:39] Daniel Weyl: thing I like?

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[01:36:51] Jeff Nesbitt: No one told you? With that face, nobody warned you? No, I learned from experience. Dude, somebody should have told you. You know, those men out there, they're creepy.

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[01:37:19] Just like, hey. I understand you're going to be spending significant amounts of time alone with adult men. Just don't let them touch you, don't let them convince you to take your shirt off, don't let them put any fancy salves or, or, you know, luxurious creams on your body. Yeah. Don't let them rub you down.

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[01:37:45] Daniel Weyl: Ravaged. That wasn't, that wasn't even the first time. Shit. I remember a goth check on, I had a Skype in about the third or fourth grade or whatnot.

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[01:37:56] Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, these thirsty 40 year olds just, well, I didn't know who

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[01:38:07] Jeff Nesbitt: And you love the kiddos.

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[01:38:16] This is awesome. Edgy, you like video games, you like to play with trains.

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[01:38:25] Daniel Weyl: adult. Yeah, and a video chat. And then, um, yeah dude, I, I swear to Christ, I remember being in my room, and like we were talking and whatnot, she's like, I'll get naked, that'd be so cool. I'm like, yeah, it would, wouldn't it?

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[01:39:03] And, uh, I think, I think this dude actually turned his camera on by accident.

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[01:39:20] Daniel Weyl: fucked up. Is

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[01:39:23] Daniel Weyl: internet?

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[01:39:30] Jeff Nesbitt: you ever still think about her? I kind of do when it gets real late.

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[01:39:43] Jeff Nesbitt: Linkin Park, Linkin Park was fucking getting everybody in their feels.

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[01:39:48] Daniel Weyl: coming back. For, for the past maybe decade it wasn't as cool. And now it's starting to. Well, Chester's dead. Yeah, that

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[01:40:04] Do you know about that? Chester? Dying? Yeah. What's up with it? You know what he was working on before he died? MKUltra. Um, child sex trafficking documentary. Oh, really? Yeah. Ashton Kutcher's doing that now. Oh, really? Yeah. He's had a foundation for years about it, but also, guess who else was working with Chester on that?

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[01:40:27] Daniel Weyl: committed suicide. Was he Soundgarden? Yeah. Okay, yeah. Huh. They both

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[01:41:02] And that's like what that song's about. Oh, yeah. Um,

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[01:41:17] Jeff Nesbitt: Just thinking. Oh, Temple of the Dog.

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[01:41:45] Daniel Weyl: You know, I watched this clip.

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[01:41:50] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah, I've heard of it. I haven't seen

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[01:42:10] Don't care. Her baby's getting like disemboweled and shit, and they're all eating it and fucking shit, and she's all stabbing it. She's like, no. That sounds scary. Yeah, grabs it like breaks a piece of glass and starts stabbing all these people who are like ritualizing her child. Fucking insane. Yeah. Why, ugh.

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[01:42:32] Jeff Nesbitt: God, that's the crazy part, is like, coming to terms with that truth, uh, if that is what it is, I think it is. I think people actually do that kind of creepy shit. Yeah. Like, in real life, and I think it is just straight evil. I personally believe there really is, on a very fundamental level, two types of energy, but like good and evil, yin and yang.

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[01:43:18] Like it's not necessarily just, yeah, it's not just a simple, like electricity is a form of energy, but this is like a more of a spiritual thing, but it's more, uh, Slippery. Harder to describe, but I think it's real, and I think that you feel it when you experience love, and when you experience bonding with people, like, that's the good half of it.

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[01:43:55] It is powerful. And if you've been the victim of it, you've seen that look in somebody's face when they're doing it to you, you know exactly what it is. It's evil.

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[01:44:12] Jeff Nesbitt: horrible. Tears you out.

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[01:44:31] Yeah. And that is evil. That's like... Yeah. Capturing

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[01:44:36] Jeff Nesbitt: using it. And so, to victimize the most vulnerable group possible, and also the most innocent group possible, children... Yeah. would probably produce the highest energy benefit in terms of that. Your fucking evil payoff that those people are wanting to get.

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[01:44:52] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, because there's nothing more innocent than a babe.

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[01:45:03] Daniel Weyl: Fucking A it is. Bad for business.

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[01:45:12] And the fact that human sacrifice has been a part of human cultures . Forever. It's, uh, do you think

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[01:45:34] Jeff Nesbitt: Just for good measure.

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[01:45:43] because this is all hypothetical. Yeah. We can't put our finger on the, pin the tail on the

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[01:46:04] Daniel Weyl: just child trafficking in general.

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[01:46:10] Jeff Nesbitt: crazy, but humans are viewed like a resource. Yeah. Like, on multiple levels, we're, we're a physical resource, like, for sex and work. Yeah. But we're also, like, a spiritual resource. We're containers with souls in them. Yeah, yeah. Like, if you, if you're into that kind of...

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[01:46:40] Daniel Weyl: Terrific.

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[01:46:43] Daniel Weyl: I said terrific. Well. Freudian slip?

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[01:46:51] Daniel Weyl: Like, uh, yeah. Pretty much,

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[01:47:00] Daniel Weyl: too. I wasn't gonna say it. I'll say it now, though.

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[01:47:08] I'm tired of thinking about all of the darkness. It just weighs you down.

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[01:47:36] Me too. It's great. You know, there's all sorts of bullshit going on with the economy. Yeah. Who knows what this next election cycle's gonna do. It's gonna do

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[01:47:49] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, it's gonna do something. But, uh... You voting for Trump? We out here. Trump again? No, I don't think

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[01:47:58] Daniel Weyl: didn't vote.

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[01:48:06] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't even care who wins. I legitimately don't.

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[01:48:33] Unless I like am in the process of cooking something that I'm looking forward to eat. But if it's in the moment.

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[01:48:57] Like, nah, I gotta be in the right zone. Yeah, I don't know

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[01:49:09] Jeff Nesbitt: It's fucking great. Is it really? Yeah. It just seems like a lot of... It's not the same experience as going to, you know, a burger joint or whatever.

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[01:49:37] The big, the big emotional slash biological void in my, in my belly. That's why I drink before I drive. There you go. Same, same logic. And then when it actually takes place, you're in the restaurant and they bring you a, you know, a spoonful of fish. Foie gras. Which is what? Goose fat? I think it's like duck that's been heavily abused.

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[01:50:01] Daniel Weyl: Like a female

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[01:50:23] I mean, if they're force feeding a duck, who, I wouldn't put it past them, these fuckin perverts. Yeah. These foie gras, these foie...

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[01:50:36] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay, I won't even venture down that road, too hard to say those words. Yeah. Um, but. Yeah. Suffice to say, there's some abuses going on with the ducks. Okay. So

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[01:50:48] Jeff Nesbitt: tried? I've never even had foie gras. Oh, okay. Personally. You're just giving an example. Yeah, some fanciness that I just pulled out of my back pocket.

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[01:51:18] I remember the food.

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[01:51:33] Jeff Nesbitt: crispy. Is that the guy? It could be, I don't know, I didn't see that. Nope.

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[01:51:39] Jeff Nesbitt: whatever, Heston.

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[01:51:47] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, you nailed it on the head. I didn't, haven't thought of those words in ever.

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[01:52:04] Look, this is a meal. But, and then you, and you're like, there's no way this could be a meal. It's just a pea and some foam. And then you take a bite of it and you're like transported to, you know, a wonderful world of pea foam or something. Yeah. Um, and they're like, oh my gosh. But it's, and it's based on just like the interplay between your brain and the, whatever the ingredient is.

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[01:52:46] The Michelin Star that you see at a fancy restaurant is the same Michelin as the fucking tires.

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[01:52:56] Jeff Nesbitt: Just that, just that. Tires and food? Tires and restaurant reviews. They make the wheels to get to the restaurants? And then they write the reviews. And that's all they do.

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[01:53:23] Yeah. Isn't that weird? That

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[01:53:39] Jeff Nesbitt: No. No. It's like the Pillsbury Doughboy. Why do I care about his opinion? Yeah. What, does he make tires? I don't know.

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[01:53:54] Daniel Weyl: That's two separate domains that are opposing, almost.

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[01:54:09] Daniel Weyl: That fucking beats me, I don't

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[01:54:11] I could see it if it was like, Goodyear. It's like, hey, we got these blimps, we gotta serve food on these blimps. Yeah. Um, and then before you know it, Bippity Boppity Boom, you're reviewing food. Yeah. Um, but Michelin Which is

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[01:54:27] Jeff Nesbitt: Yes, or The Simpsons.

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[01:54:53] Yeah, it was a really North Korean story. Yeah. Humble beginnings. Yeah.

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[01:55:03] Jeff Nesbitt: shit. Yeah, we have. That's okay, though. We have. We can circle back to pedophiles again later if you want, but for now let's try to find something happier. Yeah. Let's see. I got, I got a list here.

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[01:55:34] Daniel Weyl: to eat. I like to catch and fucking eat shit.

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[01:55:39] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. He didn't really say that about the people who fish it. Sorry, Josh. He didn't, Josh. He didn't say it. Um, Have you ever been to that fly fishing shop over there in Ilwaco? I haven't. My dad has. It's

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[01:55:56] Jeff Nesbitt: fishing stuff.

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[01:56:15] Daniel Weyl: Are these ones? Nope. It's just a quiet

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[01:56:27] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. Um, no, but, uh, catch and release fishing, I don't know. I really have no animus toward it. I just, I prefer, if there is going to be a fishery, might as well just let the whole thing fucking rest if it needs to.

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[01:56:54] Jeff Nesbitt: heard that a few times now, from people who fished down here and people who fished in Alaska. Yeah. They know how to do it up there. Oh, it's

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[01:57:11] Jeff Nesbitt: Do you think Washington has just different goals? Like, they want to make this place something different? Because it does, honestly, doesn't seem like they're trying to operate in a way that's gonna keep the fishery as healthy as possible for as long as possible, which seems like it would be the goal.

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[01:57:26] Daniel Weyl: Now, I don't know the politics or even the structure of how Washington works. I can only speak to

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[01:57:36] Daniel Weyl: anyway, you know? What does a sport fisherman know anyway? Fuck

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[01:57:49] I don't give a fuck about the sports fishermen. They don't, I don't, I don't hate them. But, uh, but I'm around people who are like, want to talk about them like we're on the same team. So I have to like, you know, fuck those guys. Yeah, no, I don't

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[01:58:05] That's all I really give a shit about. Me too. I just want my kids to have a good time. If they want to go fishing... Yeah. I don't know what to do about it. I just like to complain about

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[01:58:21] Yeah.

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[01:58:31] Jeff Nesbitt: really come up with solutions. Like, that's not what our, that's not really our wheelhouse. Yeah. We are much better at complaining.

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[01:58:46] Daniel Weyl: I've been known to be a cynical piece of shit,

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[01:58:59] And a complainer will... Yeah, a complainer will take a success and then talk shit about it. Whereas a cynic will just like honor the reality of the situation. You know what I mean? Yeah, usually I'm pretty

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[01:59:15] Jeff Nesbitt: get behind the win. You do seem cynical, but not really Complainy.

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[01:59:31] Daniel Weyl: would.

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[01:59:43] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. And you did it up with the foam, too.

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[01:59:54] Daniel Weyl: It's, but it's nice, though, because turquoise and purple and black go

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[01:59:58] I just never assumed anyone would look up, you know. Yeah. But they all do. Everyone comments on it. Yeah. Yeah.

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[02:00:14] Jeff Nesbitt: That, that is exactly how it happens. Oh, I didn't even turn on the lights.

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[02:00:27] Oh.

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[02:00:32] Jeff Nesbitt: Didn't go on. Is there

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[02:00:37] wearing the labyrinth.

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[02:00:59] Daniel Weyl: Do you come up here and just hang out a lot?

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[02:01:11] Bit of a studio. Yeah. And then, um... But no, I just, it's really, really hard to have time to do that. If I'm up here and my family's in the house, they don't let me be up here. Right. They will come out here and get me. Yeah. And there's just, uh, nothing I can do about that. Yeah. And it's, it's fine. It is.

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[02:01:58] Yeah. Yep. I was up there I was and now I'm not and then like it then even at that point It's such a mood based thing to record yourself, whether it's for music or for a podcast. Oh, yeah that Some if I let something like that throw me off. Yeah, I can't just go back into a creative task. Then I'm just like Oh, it, all it takes is in asshole mode.

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[02:02:41] Jeff Nesbitt: Couldn't be good.

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[02:02:50] Daniel Weyl: Yeah. My buddy, Dylan, tried snowboarding for the first time. Um, he'd...

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[02:03:04] Daniel Weyl: A lot of people say the opposite, that skiing is easier.

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[02:03:11] Daniel Weyl: You think so? Yeah. You tried both? Yeah. Damn. Well... Because I've been telling him to hop on the

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[02:03:31] So I need tension in my system. Yeah. So, like, if I'm standing sideways, I can kind of twist my feet and get some rigidity.

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[02:03:41] Jeff Nesbitt: Yes, very. Yeah. I mean, only did it once, but dislocated. Pretty damn quick. Yeah, my knee bent sideways all the way. So my leg was there.

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[02:03:53] Daniel Weyl: this. The rescue team had to come slide you down.

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[02:04:11] Um, and I got, you know, really good really fast. Yeah. I'm a natural. And so, uh, my confidence obviously was sky high. And I was like, this is easy. Yeah, it's like flying a 747 and landing it. Exactly. Oh, that's, that's something we should talk about. But, long story short, I got overconfident and I tried to keep up with my wife and, uh, she's been skiing her whole life.

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[02:04:45] Daniel Weyl: Oh, the moment you think about crashing is the moment you do, dude. Yeah, yeah.

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[02:04:52] So I, I, I saw it happen. I watched my leg bend Yeah. 90 degrees to the side. Yeah. And, um, I was like, that doesn't normally do that. It shouldn't. And, um, so I was laying there and Sawyer and Melissa are just like skiing away from me and we're down in a part of the mountain that was like fresh powder so there's like no other tracks.

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[02:05:29] Daniel Weyl: should make everybody have a red flag like a fucking wakeboarder

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[02:05:32] They should. Right? Yeah. Or a flare gun. Right? Something. Yeah. Or a beacon of some kind. Digital beacon. I had my iPhone.

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[02:05:44] Jeff Nesbitt: LED. Yeah. And then, uh, they sent this lovely young lady who was probably... 110 pounds, on a snowmobile, uh, to load my fat ass into a toboggan.

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[02:06:18] Yeah. Um, yeah, I, I fuckin I was screamin cuss words at her, no, just to the world, not at her at all. She was really nice. But, um. What pass was it? I don't know. Like, what, what, what was, what place? Yeah. Um, Timberline. Oh. Yeah. Okay. Yep, and then, uh. Fuck you, Timberline Lodge. I know. Yeah, and then so that happened, and they loaded me into the toboggan, and.

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[02:07:17] Yeah. And, uh, she's going so fast, and I'm flying around corners, almost rolling over. Oh my god. Like, very close to rolling over, or rolling out. And, um... Yeah. But I figured, I'm sure I'm not the first person to have this happen. And she probably knows what she's doing, and she never dumped me. Being

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[02:07:39] Especially if you don't know what their capability is. I loved it!

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[02:07:59] She's gonna try not to kill me. Yeah.

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[02:08:21] Well, we bent the frame to where it could lock in like a lawnmower hitch or, you know, something of the sort. Like with a bolt, yeah, and a pin in. So we did, he towed me around on this fucking baby carriage behind him on a quad.

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[02:08:40] Daniel Weyl: for a kid.

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[02:08:41] Jeff Nesbitt: trailer. With a little fabric covering over it. Yeah. Yeah, we got one right down there. Yeah,

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[02:09:04] And,

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[02:09:06] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, that pin falls out and I fucking, the front hitch hit the ground and then like the entire thing nearly flips over but mostly just digs into the ground against this brush pile and this log, I mean, I didn't have a helmet on so this log just like ripped straight through the fabric going like 25 miles, I mean, would have decapitated me, but uh, that's my two cents about being strapped in with somebody else driving some

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[02:09:32] Yeah, that sounds worse than mine. Well, not

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[02:09:38] Jeff Nesbitt: I almost died. Yeah. Yeah. But you survived. And that's really... And you were better for it. That's the motif. Yeah. Yeah. I think that is the motif of this whole podcast. But we're still chugging along. There's a lot of shit up there to be upset about, but let's just not.

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[02:10:21] And every single one of them thinks heavily about it first. Like, you really put yourself there and you're like, oh yeah, if I had to, sure,

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[02:10:35] Jeff Nesbitt: fucking thing.

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[02:10:46] Daniel Weyl: Too hysterical. No, we'd, uh, yeah. I'd figure something out. I know how to fire up a plane. Auxiliary power, that's about my...

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[02:11:07] Daniel Weyl: Well, you heard about that dude who flew around in the Puget Sound. Not the Barefoot Bandit. Not the Barefoot Bandit, another guy, worked for Horizon Airlines, same airlines that I worked for, but he, um, worked up in Seattle, and he worked for the tow team, which is basically towing the aircraft into, um, you know, hangars and through the taxiways and whatnot.

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[02:12:13] You can hear the entire conversation and he's doing loop de loops and all sorts of shit. Um, but it only, the Air National Guard in Portland only took about five minutes to get up to Seattle because they didn't know if it was a domestic terrorist attack. Yeah. You know, um, but the, the actual audio of listening to him talk to ATC is fucking

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[02:12:35] Does he sound crazy?

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[02:12:55] Jeff Nesbitt: What a fucking

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[02:13:03] Jeff Nesbitt: So he landed it, I assume. He

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[02:13:08] Jeff Nesbitt: And he's okay?

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[02:13:11] Jeff Nesbitt: during the Wow. Yeah. That's a big plane to barrel roll.

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[02:13:20] Jeff Nesbitt: upside down. Yeah. That's some Denzel Washington shit. And that's his

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[02:13:31] Jeff Nesbitt: maneuverable Oh, you mean the planes. The planes. I thought you meant the employees aren't supposed to take the planes out.

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[02:13:40] Daniel Weyl: yeah. But, a pretty cool dude.

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[02:13:45] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, very much so. Anybody curious, give that a shot. It's an interesting conversation.

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[02:13:56] Daniel Weyl: don't even know the story behind him, but every time I hear of him being around this place or that, like Coeur d'Alene or wherever, it's just like...

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[02:14:09] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That is fucking cool. I don't even know why I find that so enticing, but it is. It's kind of like a romanticized, uh, definitely, crime life. Yeah,

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[02:14:27] Robin

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[02:14:51] But not with malicious intent. No, it's harmless, really. Exploratory, exploratory malice, if anything. Yeah. Like he wasn't Trying to not hurt anybody. Yeah. I mean, he's trying to fly a plane and Yeah. He doesn't really seem to know

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[02:15:08] Really, theft is a huge one that you fuck you, you piece of shit your garbage. But he's stealing from these rich people. Yachts, yeah.

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[02:15:27] There was a kid.

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[02:15:30] Jeff Nesbitt: don't know. Or she. I don't know, actually. But she was forced on to the submarine. Forced? Didn't want to go. Really? Yeah. Wow. She felt bad for her dad, or stepdad, or something, or man. For being alone down there? Now that I think about it, I don't remember if it was a boy or a girl.

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[02:15:56] Daniel Weyl: Definitely. I don't know. I've never really met, actually, you know what? I have met someone incredibly rich. One time in my life. That I knew was rich. It was the CEO, original CEO of FedEx. And I met him at a little bar in a town called Coffman Cove, Alaska.

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[02:16:21] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know how. Why was he, why was he there? He had sold

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[02:16:43] Oh. In a little bar, and there was about ten of us, and he's, you know the mole from Winnie the Pooh? Yeah. Kind of talk

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[02:17:03] Oh, okay.

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[02:17:06] Jeff Nesbitt: Gopher's like a beaver, uh, you know. Facially. Oh, right.

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[02:17:11] Jeff Nesbitt: mole. A mole. Eyes doesn't have eyes is like blind. And yeah, those star nose moles that have like a little hand on their face. Oh yeah. You seen those? Yeah. It's weird. Yeah, it looked like a little butthole. Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Interesting. But anyway, we digress.

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[02:17:29] Daniel Weyl: when Flo, when Mayweather walked out, he was, you know, black. I won't say what he said, but uh, Yeah, look at this, hoppin around, you know, you get it, but, uh.

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[02:17:51] Like, maybe in the 70s. Yeah. Um, but do you really think there's that many people around who share your racist views that you can just say that shit out loud? Like, they do though. Yeah. Especially if they've been consuming alcohol. Yeah.

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[02:18:16] willful arrogance can also be confused with, uh, power and masculinity and all of these things that can be intertwined.

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[02:18:27] Daniel Weyl: Well, not to the person who's just kind of

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[02:18:46] Yeah, that's pretty gay, dude. I know! Yeah. Exactly. If I hated flowers and loved forcing people to see things my way, I'd be considered much more masculine. But I don't like to do that, and I do love flowers. Especially arranging them. Yeah. And that's just the way it is.

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[02:19:07] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. There are just things about traditional views of masculinity and femininity that make, uh, little sense. Yes. To

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[02:19:21] Jeff Nesbitt: roles.

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[02:19:30] Who knows, you know, despite the direction the country is going and it's catalyzing an identity I feel is a bit harder now that norms are disappearing.

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[02:19:55] And then now I'm, like, anchored to it. Yeah. Um, even though we all know that that's not how people work and that we all change and evolve, but for some reason we still want to pin these things to people that are just supposed to follow them to make it easy for us. Right. So we know how to think about them, but...

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[02:20:10] Daniel Weyl: gender, too. I mean, nationalism. We... You talk to any young person now, yeah, fuck America, fuck this, and then it starts to devolve slowly, into sort of a communist kind of viewpoint. And, uh, you know, I'm no historian, but, um, it doesn't seem to be the right way to go.

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[02:20:33] Communism. Generally seems to fail. Yeah. A lot. But also, this isn't working great. Yeah, capitalism. Yeah, it seems like capitalism actually does work really good. Um, if you're starting from scratch, it's very honest. It's very even fair, but we are not starting from scratch. We're in late stage capitalism, and now it's getting kind of flimsy.

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[02:21:17] So it's just like, is there a way? Is there a way to do it where we don't just fuck over massive groups of people? Yeah, who knows man. We haven't figured it out yet. No. I haven't seen it.

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[02:21:39] Yeah. So, you know, I could be just a drone walking around all blue pilled up. That

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[02:21:59] Daniel Weyl: Well, the main, you know, driving force behind

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[02:22:04] Daniel Weyl: we fought with them, um, but their casualty numbers are Huge.

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[02:22:16] Jeff Nesbitt: is. It'd be really interesting to go through a, uh, just a history of America. In another country. Yeah, like to see what they're saying about us, because now the older I get, the less I trust the established narrative.

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[02:22:50] Like, you look at your books, it's different than it was five years ago. Yeah. It's like, it's the ministry of truth. Yeah, yeah. It's 1984.

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[02:23:08] Jeff Nesbitt: is so accessible. Now that we know the time that would have produced that highlight reel was full of, like, bad stuff.

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[02:23:19] Jeff Nesbitt: Well, I'm not even talking about the conquering, but like, let's look at the 50s, like, The family and the leave it to beaver image like of that, which was very polished and very like perfect. Yeah. Um, they hid everything that was dark.

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[02:23:36] Daniel Weyl: that was dark, ask the police.

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[02:23:58] Yeah, yeah. Back when things were easy and, and... Happy and it's like, oh no, we just hid all the darkness back then we just, yeah, yeah, yeah. Didn't expose it. Now it's, yeah. If they had the internet,

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[02:24:09] Jeff Nesbitt: be the same. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So it's like, yeah. What? We're not gonna go back to anything.

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[02:24:21] Daniel Weyl: between ourselves and, yeah. Fucking yeah.

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[02:24:34] Like, if, maybe that's what the aliens will, will bring out. We, we need a common enemy. Yeah. And then people will just be like, yeah, right on, humans are the fucking best.

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[02:24:49] Jeff Nesbitt: damn.

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[02:24:53] Daniel Weyl: it feels does feel like that. It feels like at least American culture is like lost. We there's no common ground.

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[02:25:01] Daniel Weyl: they there used to be common ground between, you know, the classic liberalism and liberals and Republicans. On the fact that working together will at least provide some good outcomes.

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[02:25:17] Jeff Nesbitt: it to win it. Well also we had industry then and we had like a strong middle class. Yeah. And now we don't. Absolutely. Now we have a really, really huge poverty class. Yeah. A tiny middle class and a tinier elite class. Yeah. And just, and they've got all the money.

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[02:25:39] You know, trying to, well, you have the housing crisis, so, you know, houses are just ridiculously expensive and rent and whatnot, but it's hard to solve.

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[02:26:08] That sucks. That's not a happy life. No. No. And that's where a lot of us are right now. Yeah, um,

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[02:26:21] Jeff Nesbitt: community's a big one. Like, it really does God fuck the community. Yeah, you're right. I guess it that way.

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[02:26:49] I still feel more like a regular human. Like I'm doing what I'm supposed to do. Sure.

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[02:27:10] Jeff Nesbitt: It sucks the most for the person.

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[02:27:16] Daniel Weyl: having a purpose for another person is worse than, almost worse than not having a purpose for yourself.

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[02:27:34] That sounds kind

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[02:27:57] Being useful to others will help invigorate that sense of purpose.

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[02:28:13] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, that's what I mean, and like, I like being alone too.

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[02:28:19] Jeff Nesbitt: You know? No, um, when I'm helping other people, I genuinely think I'm okay. And if I'm doing something like spending an entire day, um, just watching TV or anything, anything that just provides me comfort and does nothing for anyone else, even if it doesn't hurt anyone else, I feel like a piece of shit.

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[02:28:54] Daniel Weyl: Yeah, it's almost like relaxation is an illusion at its bedrock layer.

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[02:29:00] Because... Or a myth.

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[02:29:20] Because you've been ignoring that through your productive life, and, uh, you know, that's obviously healthy for...

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[02:29:29] Daniel Weyl: this shit, yeah, yeah, yeah. But, um, you know, I don't know, I guess it's... I don't know where I'm going with that, but...

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[02:29:44] So, when I go on vacation, I actually make an effort to... Not just let it flow, because I know that's not gonna happen. I'm not just gonna feel the relaxation. I have to make an effort to shut off like, my active brain. Be like, alright, so this is, you're gonna sit here, and just like, let yourself get bored.

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[02:30:17] That's what I do. I just react to everything. Every day. All I'm doing is reacting and then, you know, coming up with a plan of action to react to the next problem. Oh yeah. But I want to actually have time where I'm sitting still long enough to get bored. And to let my brain come up with new thoughts and, you know, combine old thoughts into new ideas.

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[02:30:42] Daniel Weyl: Exactly. And you'll put the fires out faster if you take the 15 minute break to just fucking chill out for a sec. Yeah. You know what I mean?

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[02:30:53] Like, let yourself actually relax. Your brain solves problems when you're sleeping. Yeah. Like it takes the information that you compiled throughout the day and it decides what to jettison and what to put into long storm, long term storage. Yeah. And it combines stuff into new revelations that you may not have had.

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[02:31:14] Daniel Weyl: I want, do you think there's any effort being done in a lucid dream? Like, David, do you think the next morning, like, after a lucid dream, you're like, fuck, man, that was a long run, or?

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[02:31:28] I don't know. I used to have dreams about rowing, where I would be in a boat, rowing, and the fucking race just like never ended, or the boat was down to one side and I just could not fix it, or like, stress dreams, where, and then like, I gotta wake up at four in the morning and go row, and so I'd wake up exhausted, and just like really not feeling like rowing, and uh, and it made those practices like, fuck.

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[02:31:57] Daniel Weyl: that lucid though? Because you're in such a routine.

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[02:32:07] Daniel Weyl: had any other experiences like that, um, that weren't rowing?

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[02:32:24] Daniel Weyl: I had, uh, sleep paralysis one time that I can remember. I've had it a couple times I know, but there's only one that I remember.

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[02:33:06] And I just remember being there like paralyzed for what felt like 10 minutes or something. Mm-hmm. insane what the mind can conjure.

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[02:33:23] Daniel Weyl: I'm aware of it now. I don't remember ever hearing of sleep paralysis until that

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[02:33:28] But I mean, not just the sleep paralysis, but the specific entity that you saw. Yeah. That's a common, that's a common occurrence. Exactly.

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[02:33:42] Jeff Nesbitt: There's all kinds of different names for it. Different cultures across the world all share that experience.

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[02:34:09] Yeah, but that was just ghosts. So it was something different. Yeah. Now, I actually,

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[02:34:17] Jeff Nesbitt: hallucination. Yeah. Yeah. Any time that you're just waking up or just falling asleep and you're hearing shit or seeing shit, it's pretty reasonable to assume it's not real. And, um, so it's just like... It doesn't freak me out that much, but it, like, I would talk about it.

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[02:34:59] Hoping it's not her outside my window whispering I love you to me in my sleep. Yeah. And but that's what I thought was happening. And I like text her. I was like, you're fucking in my house. And she's like, No, it's the middle of the night. I'm in bed. Yeah. And

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[02:35:15] Jeff Nesbitt: to a ghost.

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[02:35:26] Daniel Weyl: upset you. Yeah,

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[02:35:35] Daniel Weyl: exactly.

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[02:35:39] Jeff Nesbitt: Well, now I'm rethinking this. Now I'm rethinking this. Yeah. Hit her up again, man. Shit's creepy.

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[02:35:52] Jeff Nesbitt: don't believe in it. Yeah, I don't really either. Even when it happens, I still, I'm just like, eh, it's a fluke.

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[02:36:14] You were t and

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[02:36:21] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. And we I could play that, I have that still. Do you really? Yeah. But I'll do it when we're done recording. Yeah, play it after. Oh wow, we just hit two hours. Hell

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[02:36:29] Two hours, baby. I thought I wouldn't make five

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[02:36:46] Radio or something. I don't know. I can't explain it. I'm trying to think of what episode that was so I can go back to it. Um, but I'm pretty sure I can find it. Yeah.

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[02:37:12] Jeff Nesbitt: a human.

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[02:37:36] Like, you can kind of hear them. Moving around here, the gravel, crunch, or whatever, it's just like an idea. You know there's people around. Sure. I was feeling like that, and then, um, that fucking light hit me in the head. And I was the same day. That was the same day. Oh, shit. Um, the The thing with the voice was a different time.

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[02:38:01] Daniel Weyl: the witching hour, too. Yeah. Oh. It was a witch. It was a witch,

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[02:38:11] Yeah. I don't know what it was, but I don't believe in ghosts. Yeah. Aliens? Jesus. Jesus protects me from ghosts, so they're not even real. Right. Yeah. Covered in his blood.

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[02:38:24] Jeff Nesbitt: Fuck yeah,

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[02:38:30] Jeff Nesbitt: The guy's jacked.

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[02:38:36] Daniel Weyl: Ethiopian pot belly on him.

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[02:38:49] Daniel Weyl: you know, Gandhi would sleep with, um, sleep with women. Oh, women. He might sleep with kids, too. But never fucked them.

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[02:38:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Like Michael Jackson. Yeah, exactly. Jackson. Did you watch that documentary? Fuck no, I'm not a pervert. Oh, you have to. Nah. Okay. What is it? Tell me about it. What is it? Well, all I wanted to say was Why'd you love it so much? I thought it was interesting

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[02:39:21] Hmm.

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[02:39:31] Daniel Weyl: He, you know what? Hmm. Maybe he, it was a cyborg, and this cloning thing is really more of a cybernetic feature, cause maybe he was taking pictures, maybe the fact that he was staring, he had the money to do it, implant a cybernetic camera or whatever inside my fucking

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[02:39:49] I'm open to it. Yeah. Yeah, I'll, I'll hear it. That's a Black Mirror episode. Yeah, that's a good show. Yeah, Man in the Mirror. Yeah, I don't know that

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[02:39:58] Jeff Nesbitt: song, Michael Jackson. That is a, okay. I'm asking him to change his ways. Yeah. Well, he didn't do it. No. And now he's dead. Yeah. Actually, he's probably not, he's probably faked his own death.

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[02:40:24] Daniel Weyl: impersonators. I've walked down Hollywood Boulevard, dude. There's some he he's out there.

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[02:40:31] Jackson.

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[02:40:37] I don't know where that came from.

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[02:40:42] Daniel Weyl: Baldy. Superior race,

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[02:41:00] Daniel Weyl: You got a hit of water

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[02:41:11] I gotta see

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[02:41:18] Jeff Nesbitt: dude? Google doesn't let me see it. They're not gonna let us see it. Sorry, guys. Yeah. Um... Uh, moonwalk? No. No one's ever walked on the moon.

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[02:41:33] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, no one does.

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[02:41:38] Daniel Weyl: Um, I will say this. Just in defense of a position that I would hold in the future of arguing, learning about all this DARPA shit, insane what they could do in the

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[02:41:54] Daniel Weyl: it a little bit. Okay, but

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[02:41:59] Daniel Weyl: Um, I was just gonna touch base at a lot of the... 50s and 60s are just like beyond the realm of reality. And to, and, you know, thinking of going to the moon would be in that wheelhouse

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[02:42:21] Because both of those would work. Both of

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[02:42:24] Jeff Nesbitt: Um They could both be true for all I know. Yeah.

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[02:42:39] Jeff Nesbitt: That we know of.

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[02:42:59] I don't even care about the moon. He doesn't. It's kind of a loser

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[02:43:03] Jeff Nesbitt: yeah. Well, um. If you're gonna brag about going anywhere, go to the sun. Pluto? Sun? Yeah. You come back from the sun with some stories, I'll listen. Fuck yeah, man.

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[02:43:15] Jeff Nesbitt: bend in the sun. But the moon's a fucking cold little rock.

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[02:43:40] Okay. And friends.

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[02:43:45] Jeff Nesbitt: ha ha. Uh, we shouldn't, we shouldn't make fun of the dead. I think he really did die though, that's a bummer. Yeah. Same with Jimmy Buffett, same day. Really?

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[02:44:01] Cursed me. Jimmy did? Well, we had Sirius XM in Alaska when I was fishing up there. Um, and, Jimmy Buffett radio was on all the time. Oh yeah. And even the live versions of songs would be, Salt! Salt! Salt! Um, so I, yeah.

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[02:44:26] Yeah,

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[02:44:35] Jeff Nesbitt: Somebody did. Yeah. Anyway. There's some good Jimmy Buffet songs. There are and he's. I've never heard them but people

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[02:44:47] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't like.

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[02:44:49] Daniel Weyl: a song has a happy melody with happy lyrics, I don't like that. It feels,

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[02:45:13] Daniel Weyl: thoughtful lyrics.

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[02:45:19] Jeff Nesbitt: funky. I'll take Dua Lipa over Springsteen any day. A lot of, yeah, a

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[02:45:25] Jeff Nesbitt: Armas though? Regular Anna De Armas.

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[02:45:37] People actually do, people do. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If you're a fan of that artist, you will learn the lyrics. And then you go, holy shit, what were they going through? And then it makes you respect them. But if it's like a, just a pop song that you hear normally, you don't, you aren't in tune with the fact that they're on heroin and...

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[02:45:57] Jeff Nesbitt: up. I want something else to get me through this. That song? Yeah. Very sad. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But, I mean, it just makes you want to take a hot shot, you know? Right between your toes. Yeah. And he bumped again, and he bumped again. Yeah. Who

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[02:46:20] Jeff Nesbitt: song.

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[02:46:26] Daniel Weyl: like that. And that also isn't

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[02:46:35] Daniel Weyl: person. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Holy shit. The many things I wish

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[02:46:41] Daniel Weyl: Early 2000s rock was so fucking... I love that shit. Lincoln Park. Yeah,

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[02:47:03] Hello?

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[02:47:07] Amelia?

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[02:47:12] Well fuck, I don't know. Did that sound like a kid's voice? It

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[02:47:16] Jeff Nesbitt: voice. Alright, well let's wrap this thing up. I'll go figure out why my kid's crying at school. Yeah, okay. Alright, thank you for listening everybody. We'll talk to you next time. Yep. Daniel, close it up. Um, sorry about all the Come up with something good to say.

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[02:47:32] Daniel Weyl: if you're gonna, if you're gonna cook a cow vagina, fuck it before you do it.

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