Long Roads, Hot Takes, Hot Loads, & Heartbreaks w/Casey Venus

Casey Venus

Intro

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[00:00:07] Elsa Linquist: sounds a lot louder than mine to me right now. Check

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[00:00:14] Elsa Linquist: Check one, two, check one, two.

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[00:00:27] Elsa Linquist: of depends on the ASR, cause there's like a bunch of different types.

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[00:00:47] Jeff Nesbitt: What I don't get about that is that there are a lot of people who complained constantly about the sound of lip smacking and stuff on.

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[00:00:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:01:00] not.

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[00:01:28] Jeff Nesbitt: Do you get the tingles from it?

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[00:01:53] Jeff Nesbitt: honestly.

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[00:02:14] And, um, I also get it when people help me with math, which is weird. That's a weird one. Anytime somebody is like close to me and whispering.

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[00:02:27] Jeff Nesbitt: this.

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[00:02:41] Jeff Nesbitt: years. People are trying to get their audience way up there. So that eventually that stuff just comes for free. Right. Because

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[00:02:53] Oh yeah, exactly. But like in the beginning that's like a lot of money just going to [00:03:00] unpackaging stuff and some of the stuff they might just buy because they want it or they need it. I mean goodbye. A package every week for 20 bucks. Add up. Yeah,

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[00:03:23] Well,

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[00:03:44] Jeff Nesbitt: it's not easy to be consistent every week. A couple of days. I don't, some

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[00:03:59] Jeff Nesbitt: know. [00:04:00] I actually, even if. Three times in a week. If I post three Instagram reels or whatever in a week, I start to feel self-conscious like, why am I assuming anybody gives a shit about what I'm doing?

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[00:04:18] Elsa Linquist: I think it is insane. How do they come up with the ideas of film? Cause like some people focus on one thing and some do like different things every day. So like an example of that is like this one person on.

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[00:04:52] Trick shots or something and you try not to say, wow, that was cool. Or like Gaspar or anything. You just have

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[00:05:03] Elsa Linquist: Yeah, exactly. Yeah.

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[00:05:25] Amelia Grace: I'm a

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[00:05:26] Amelia Grace: bird. I'm a blue bird. I'm a blue bird,

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[00:05:44] Amelia Grace: the

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[00:06:00] Jeff Nesbitt: was fun. Yeah. I do remember that game. I loved playing that game. You guys got to good at it.

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[00:06:14] Amelia Grace: By blue sky guy.

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[00:06:19] Elsa Linquist: a lot. A lot. Yeah. I can think of like most of the lyrics in my head. It's just one of those songs. When you just hear it, you immediately think of your childhood, you know, like your

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[00:06:34] Elsa Linquist: Well, uh, um, so do you know.

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[00:06:43] Okay. That's fine. All right. Welcome everybody to another exciting episode of ramble by the river. I'm joined in the studio today with my daughters, and we're just doing a quick intro for the Casey Venus episode, which I will admit one of my favorites.[00:07:00]

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[00:07:30] Good.

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[00:07:40] Elsa Linquist: at rainbow.

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[00:07:56] Elsa Linquist: response to how we were talking about like [00:08:00] songs earlier. When it was just three of us, mom, me, mom, and soar.

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[00:08:31] It just, my brain is just wired him immediately.

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[00:08:45] Elsa Linquist: Whenever I think smells vanilla like that. Not like the vanilla extract, like straight vanilla, but like vanilla kind of sweetened a little bit.

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[00:09:03] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, I totally get that. Yeah. Fresh cut grass. Does that to me, it smells like money. That was the first way I got money. Really?

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[00:09:19] Like barely even grows. Right. Do you see people in on their lawn mowers like mowing the lawn in winter? No one cares.

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[00:09:28] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay, well, let's get to the, uh, the episode, so, okay, Amelia, please. Don't bring that paper in here. It's very loud. Leave it down there. We'll check it out once we're done recording.

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[00:09:51] Elsa Linquist: You can come up here. They'll move.

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[00:10:01] Elsa Linquist: I could, if only I could bring the paper with me

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[00:10:07] Elsa Linquist: Hey, look who decided to charge.

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[00:10:14] Jeff Nesbitt: singing. Okay. Girls, what have you heard about in the news? Anything going on in the world.

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[00:10:38] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. You just got better stuff to do.

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[00:10:42] Jeff Nesbitt: It's pretty busy. Are you going to get in that chair

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[00:10:48] Jeff Nesbitt: awesome. Mel's come sit on my lap. We'll just hang up.

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[00:11:06] Cause they apparently don't have reporters and like most of the parts of Ukraine. So these moms are just now filming. Like the stuff that's going on and posting it to like social media and then the news, or taking their clips and putting it on the news. And they have this whole story of like the women on the news and like on zoom and they did this interview and like they asked, why are you staying here with your children?

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[00:11:56] Jeff Nesbitt: It's easy to think about it when yeah.

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[00:12:08] Elsa Linquist: and if you think about it, if everyone thought one way, like I gotta leave. I don't want to risk my life. I'm going to die. Just let them have it.

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[00:12:33] Jeff Nesbitt: right. Hey mills, if you will just please not make random noises into the mic.

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[00:12:44] Amelia Grace: Yeah.

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[00:12:47] Elsa Linquist: Hey mouse, can you tell me about the blue bird you were trying or. Um, I

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[00:13:12] Amelia Grace: I kind of didn't do anything, but do you want

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[00:13:15] Jeff Nesbitt: see what I made here? Let's finish up this intro and get out of here and then we'll just have the rest of our daddy daughter date, then we won't have to worry about

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[00:13:22] Yeah. Um, I made that for you really? I can't wait to see it.

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[00:13:47] Elsa Linquist: your name, say your name, say your name

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[00:13:52] I E Amelia or Elsa. Do promise,

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[00:13:58] Jeff Nesbitt: Never, [00:14:00] never to listen to this podcast episode to

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[00:14:08] Amelia Grace: Don has.

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[00:14:20] You have hormones raging. You start to feel these feelings that you maybe you didn't feel before. Do you want to, do you want to talk about puberty a little bit more or should we move on? Let's

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[00:14:31] Jeff Nesbitt: We talk about purity. We talk about some of the earlier experiences that we had in a. Realm a lot of stuff you don't want to hear about your

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[00:14:41] So I took the oath.

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[00:15:33] Elsa Linquist: Also, you should not listen to this podcast around your children. Oh

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[00:15:46] So as an adult, yeah.

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[00:15:52] Jeff Nesbitt: please. One more. Go ahead and finish up. And then we'll then we'll just

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[00:16:04] Elsa Linquist: Baba with the blue

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[00:16:08] Elsa Linquist: to go away? Oh,

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[00:16:14] Amelia Grace: You'll never keep

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[00:16:18] Amelia Grace: crappy. Ground-up

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[00:16:20] grumpy

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[00:16:24] Oh, girl. Now are all grownups grumpy, Amelia. I'm not grumpy

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[00:16:34] Elsa Linquist: Yeah. It's more weird if you never get grumpy, then if you're sometimes,

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[00:16:49] Cause they have a fear of rejection.

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[00:16:56] Jeff Nesbitt: traits. You're talking over your sister [00:17:00] and you can hear it right. You can hear what else is talking. Don't talk when she's talking and please stop getting everything to hold your feet still.

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[00:17:17] Amelia Grace: You can

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[00:17:19] Amelia Grace: stand over there.

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[00:17:26] Elsa Linquist: so serious. Take you kick me out.

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[00:17:33] Elsa Linquist: Can you kick me out of the podcast? I could keep up.

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[00:17:39] Elsa Linquist: Yeah, because had little feet can't stop kicking the table.

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[00:19:28] And that was something that I found to be, it seemed like it made him kind of bad-ass and intimidating. All the girls liked him that I remember very specifically, but he was, uh, yeah, he was a really interesting guy to me back then, he was somebody who was athletic and artistic because he was in plays and things like that.

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[00:20:08] I've gotten to know him, got to have gotten to know him. So without further ado, please give it up for the charismatic and multitalented Casey Venus. Come on, girls. Give it up. Let me hear some cheers.

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[00:20:25] Jeff Nesbitt: That's all you got, huh?

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[00:20:30] Jeff Nesbitt: I think he's my sister's age. Tasha's age, like four or five years now.

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[00:20:45] Elsa Linquist: The Buddha food.

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[00:21:04] does like little Dicky. Amelia is a big little Dickie fan. Shout out to

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[00:21:12] Amelia Grace: I said, looks like the little.

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[00:21:16] Amelia Grace: He

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[00:21:23] Jeff Nesbitt: He heard you say it. It wasn't bad. He thought it was funny. He did look like a little ticky. He probably knew. All right guys, no filter. Yeah, they really don't. Okay. Enough of this jibber jabbering enjoy the episode. I'll talk to guys.

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[00:00:03] Casey Venus: please. Excuse these technical difficulties.

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[00:00:20] But now my cortisol is up to here. I'm fucking stressed. I don't even remember what we were going to talk about. What did you pitch you're talking about

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[00:00:40] , Mario . Yes, he is. And, uh, as know what, if I would have picked two people in the entire world, when a nicest Mara would be probably number one, number two would be my boss Clark to, and two of the nicest fucking guys ever met my entire life [00:01:00] in any way. He, he comes up to me and he's like, Casey, I want to have, I want you to have this chocolate.

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[00:01:22] Jeff Nesbitt: things too, like, like an actual glass you're supposed to drink out of it.

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[00:01:25] Casey Venus: an actual boot. It's a replication of them. Yeah, dude.

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[00:01:33] Casey Venus: a name. There's technically a name and I can't think of it right now. I'm sure that somebody could look it up and find

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[00:01:39] A Mexican cowboy is called a vaquero. And that is actually where the Americans got the term Buckaroo. Well, come on there. Buckaroo lads. Good going. Giddy up. Yeah. That's that's from vaquero.. So that's cool.

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[00:02:03] Casey Venus: we of the cowboy, like the hero, the, you know, the, the Zuora or I guess it's orals a bad fucking, uh, I love .

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[00:02:15] Oh boy. In the mask of Zorro.

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[00:02:27] Jeff Nesbitt: point he would kill it. He's got natural eyeliner. Yeah. I mean, yeah, he'd been

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[00:02:36] Jeff Nesbitt: He was in those.

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[00:03:01] It had these magical demon powers and yada yada yada. And so he goes to this little, I guess it would be like a, like an Inn or a whorehouse, if you will kind of on the same level, but he's in there. And he's like, he's trying to act normal around all the, you know, all the, the li the mistresses.

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[00:03:42] It had finally found it and he puts it out in the thing. And one of the people on the next to him and said, I saw him, I saw him put it underneath the table. And so Zane comes over and grabs. Goes back outside. And then he proceeds to say, fuck this cowboy shit. And it starts [00:04:00] ripping off all of his hat and his Jack and starts stepping on it.

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[00:04:10] Jeff Nesbitt: How old were you when you saw that? You think I was

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[00:04:14] Jeff Nesbitt: 10? Isn't that crazy? How something can just stick with you like that? You remember so many really vivid details and that guy, Billy Zane, who you'd like watch his career after that, I'm sure you saw him in Titanic.

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[00:04:35] Casey Venus: I'm not too sure. Cause you be a funny thing is I never watched any of the money. It didn't,

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[00:04:41] Yeah. Yeah.

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[00:04:44] Jeff Nesbitt: The rocks first movie was the scorpion king spinoff. Spinoff. Yeah. Oh yeah. He was in Zoolander. Zoolander. Yeah. Cameo.

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[00:04:57] Uh, I mean, [00:05:00] because I remember the first that's the first time in the movie ever that I was able to watch as a kid, , that he said, fuck me, I let him over of some sort of like that. And I was like, as a kid growing up, I was able to able to watch that with my dad. You know, my dad had divorced my mom when I was three.

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[00:05:33] I liked little Caesars. I mean, I still do to the $5 box.

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[00:05:38] Casey Venus: these are the ones where you can like, customize, like what kind of pizzas have been alongside of you can customize. I mean, they had the, the, the, the, the really fit crispy, like buttery crust on them. And I vividly remember that.

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[00:05:54] Jeff Nesbitt: but like compare competition, kind

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[00:05:57] Casey Venus: you had, you had blockbuster, you had Hollywood. Hollywood was way better. Cause they [00:06:00] had the back little back room. You can go to the beads. Yeah. You know, the, the movies of the night, but we'd go to the horror section.

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[00:06:09] Jeff Nesbitt: the horror, the horror behind the beads.

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[00:06:29] And then we all of a sudden, fucking out of nowhere, we weren't allowed to watch these movies anymore. We weren't allowed to listen to the devil. Yeah. I mean, so it was Halloween. We couldn't even celebrate Halloween. Cause there was like, this is the devil's holiday and that game and the music and the, we weren't allowed to listen to secular music anymore.

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[00:06:46] Jeff Nesbitt: I did not know this about you at all, but that I, I totally relate. I had all that same shit went through all that same shit and I have, okay. So let's just clear for the audience. So give a little background. We don't know each other that well. , I've seen you [00:07:00] around the community since I was probably 14, 14, 13 years old ish.

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[00:07:14] Casey Venus: yeah. We can go into details about that. But, and

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[00:07:33] Casey Venus: man Saturday, Sunday, it was a Saturday, Sunday, Monday, or Friday, Saturday, Sunday, one of the two I'm configuring you're right. You're right. You're

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[00:07:50] It was a great Antonio man. That's what they, it was a

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[00:08:07] And so you've got all these different, cool, just interesting things about ya. And it seems like you'd make a great podcast guest. Jeff, I appreciate that. That's why I reached out to you. I forgot where I was going with that originally. But as far as like our,

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[00:08:25] So that was most, that was most of my life. Um, was you

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[00:08:33] Casey Venus: it was, it, it wasn't just music. It was, it was music that I wasn't able to listen to because I was able to listen to music, but I was, it was ha it had to have, it had to be clean.

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[00:08:47] Jeff Nesbitt: I was like, which is fine, but why don't the Christians make better?

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[00:08:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Right. That might mess up the Christian theme a bit.[00:09:00]

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[00:09:07] Casey Venus: bad. That was my, uh, that was my dad's in his new wife. The, when they went Christian, that was their wedding song. Everything I do, I do it for you by Bryan

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[00:09:17] Casey Venus: fuck them. I was in the Robin hood men of tights.

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[00:09:25] Jeff Nesbitt: the one Robin had been in tights was mocking. Yes. I assume about it probably way better. Had to be. Yeah. Dave Chappelle, one of his earlier performances. Yep. Of con airframe.

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[00:09:41] He really is. And they're always trying to tell him to fuck off. Or you can't say that. Oh no, I'm Dave Chappelle. I can say whatever the fuck, oh, I want this

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[00:09:56] How are they going to cancel Dave Chappelle? They tried already. Yeah. It didn't happen. He went to [00:10:00] Africa and came back bigger than ever. Yeah. They still

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[00:10:04] Jeff Nesbitt: specials. Yeah. And they're all about like now his specials are just about how everyone's trying to cancel him and like how he's just doubling down.

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[00:10:23] Casey Venus: that's a great point. I, I, I mean, every, every time I watch one of his specials, I'm speechless.

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[00:10:41] Jeff Nesbitt: they make up their mind before they listen. Exactly.

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[00:10:44] Casey Venus: time I hear that they hear the joke or the, hear the punchline to like, oh, that was racist or that was transphobic or homophobic. And they're like, no, no, no, no, no. You didn't hear the context leading up to that joke. Like it was like, yeah,

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[00:10:59] Well, maybe that's how [00:11:00] we got in this situation in the first place. It's hard to know how people should be. People should just do what they think is right. How the hell do I know? But it really seems to me like life sucks a lot more when you just go around everywhere, looking to be outraged. Life is beautiful.

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[00:11:15] Casey Venus: good spending all that time. Just like going out of your way out of an and spreading those like negative thoughts and you know, and just being angry. I think that's like, there's, there's more, you know, life should be just let it

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[00:11:32] You don't have to go looking for it. No, not at all. I like to think of it like, okay, so there's this thing. They always try to sell me on Instagram. But. Big old piece of paper that you put on the wall.

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[00:12:02] And it'd be cool to look at that. I don't know, you, you can think about it this way. If especially people who've ever done a lot of data collection take data. If you like every 24 hours, you have to take a data point. How do I feel right now?

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[00:12:30] Yeah. Every single moment though, you, you can make that choice. Like if I make this moment a better one, instead of making the choice to just let myself be angry or let myself be resentful or whatever, you can change it as you go. But if you don't think about that as you're going, you might look back one day and be like, fuck.

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[00:12:58] Casey Venus: doing on it. I mean, there's like a lot [00:13:00] of, like, you think, you think back a lot of times as what, like you were just saying, think back a lot of times.

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[00:13:21] Yeah.

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[00:13:25] Casey Venus: So I think I was asking you like you, you, you started this podcast by just listening to other,

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[00:13:32] I started listening to Russell brand just because I liked his comedy and he had a podcast with this guy named Matt. I always forget to look up, but this is back in 2015. And I was just like, what the hell is this? This is like, it's kind of like a show. Cause it has advertisements and you know, there's, they're doing bits and stuff, but it's.

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[00:14:09] And then he started a new show and I still had not really, I've really still didn't know about the podcasting world yet at this point, I didn't know that there was apple podcasts. I was listening to his podcast, like through some website and yeah. And then I eventually he went on Joe Rogan and

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[00:14:31] Jeff Nesbitt: he's the pod father, even though he calls Adam Curry, the pod father, but he, Joe Rogan is the one who made podcasting podcasting.

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[00:14:50] Casey Venus: offense. Joe is, uh, like I said, he's going through a lot of shit right now. apparently Disney and ESPN. I was reading today. The UFC fights tonight.[00:15:00]

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[00:15:19] Is taking his place tonight, which is his first. Yeah. Yeah. But, uh, but yeah, just like, I mean, you listen to a lot of the podcasts I was for me was, um, not until like 2019, uh, my wife started listening to all these podcasts, like story, like horror stories, and those are popular murder stories. And we, we drove to Idaho in 2019 and that's all we listened to on the way, like the 15 hour drive we had.

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[00:16:08] Jeff Nesbitt: Awesome guests. He's like, he's got millions of dollars and you know, it's a good show, but I I'm, I am aspiring to be like that sure. On, but I would love to be have Joe Rogan's job that looks like awesome, man. Just, I would never say the N word guys. I promise.

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[00:16:29] It

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[00:16:30] Casey Venus: didn't put it in so many songs, but I think, but I think that's where the like cultural mystically, like I think that's where a lot of the stem from his, like his music and, and how. How the word was, hell the words used in like song or,

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[00:16:48] But you don't have to say the word to do that. And he was, he was doing a shock thing. He's trying to be entertaining. Yeah. Like his intent was so clear that he thought it was okay. He was wrong. He miscalculated. [00:17:00] Yeah.

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[00:17:05] Um, but us white people have a lot, a lot to learn. You know what I mean? We have, we're trying. No, you know, and you have to, if you look at it so many years back, I mean, you know, the whole thing that went on in the, how that word was derived from, you know, it's, it's just a, it's a weird controversy and, and I'm sorry that he has to go through it.

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[00:17:27] Jeff Nesbitt: you know? Yeah. It really is. It's, it's part of, part of the deal. Like, you know, you gotta own up and he does own up. Did you watch his apology video? I did. I did. It was very good. I was very impressed. I was like, that's very humble.

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[00:17:53] Casey Venus: I, and I think that, I don't think that that was like when he S I mean, he.

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[00:18:16] I mean, cause it's not the news. We're not, we're talking, we're having

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[00:18:23] Casey Venus: think, I don't think there was other, any malicious. There was no malicious intent of like the information that he was saying. He wasn't going on the air saying no, the COVID night, you know, the, the vaccine's gonna, you know, you're going to die if you get it.

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[00:18:38] Jeff Nesbitt: No. Which

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[00:18:46] Jeff Nesbitt: that guy do love when he goes on Joe Rogan's show. I do. I do

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[00:18:51] Jeff Nesbitt: It's entertainment. Yeah. And I, I like, I literally take notes when I'm listening to that and be like, look up.

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[00:19:05] Casey Venus: my favorite thing is to look at all the shit that he sell and all of his advertisement. I go, I actually go on the website and, uh, info wars and see all the bullshit that he, that people are actually making that he's selling.

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[00:19:14] Jeff Nesbitt: buying it. I see info wars stickers on stop signs,

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[00:19:30] You, you know, we're on the same agenda pushing this shit. And he has no fucking clue. I mean, he's, he's like he he'll say all day long that he's, he's tried it and he's he believes in it, this, that, and the other, not it's a fucking money scheme, man. He's just like, of course.

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[00:20:04] Right. Towards the end. It started getting a little, a little out there and it's like, wait a minute. This is just some guy in a basement somewhere,

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[00:20:20] And it was the waiting the return. It wasn't Robert. I

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[00:20:26] Casey Venus: I got shot. And they were like, no, he's just going to come back alive and. I don't think it was John F. Kennedy. I think it was Robert Kennedy. Oh, I'm pretty sure I was Robert Kennedy and I don't know for some reason wait, which

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[00:20:39] Uh, there's a, uh, there's one Kennedy who's still, you know, causing a ruckus from time to time. I didn't

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[00:20:49] Jeff Nesbitt: that's, that's an interesting.

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[00:20:53] fucking

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[00:20:57] I,

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[00:21:17] And it's all, it's, it's a, uh, an LP of his, uh, speeches. Wow. That's cool. And I inherited that somewhere down the line. I think it was my sister passed away. She had a bunch of records and stuff. And I remember seeing that as a kid in, in, in my great-grandmother's room of this John F. Kennedy, but she was always talking about John.

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[00:21:46] Jeff Nesbitt: John F.

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[00:21:53] Casey Venus: bitching about, uh, I think there was a news article about bill Clinton get a $200 haircut. I thought you were gonna say hand job. [00:22:00] Well, yeah, that one too. That was, that was free too. Yeah, that was free. All you had to do is just hire a president.

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[00:22:07] Jeff Nesbitt: You should be able to get a cheaper hand job. Yeah.

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[00:22:20] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know. I don't

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[00:22:23] Jeff Nesbitt: generation X? No, that was the ones after boomers that was

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[00:22:27] Right? Maybe it is the, maybe the boomers go for

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[00:22:40] Casey Venus: Okay. Well, my, my great-grandmother was born in 1902. So she's before that. Oh yeah. Way before that.

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[00:22:48] No, fuck.

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[00:22:56] Jeff Nesbitt: 65. Wow. That fly is driving me nuts. [00:23:00] So maybe he'll land on you hear it on the thing I

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[00:23:03] Jeff Nesbitt: whisky right here. And I hope not actually that would be waste.

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[00:23:07] Casey Venus: is sponsored by Buffalo trace Buffalo trace whiskey.

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[00:23:16] Casey Venus: Yeah, we should, we should have one together, but

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[00:23:21] Casey Venus: Rogan.

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[00:23:29] And for those you don't know, those were airplane. Airplane bottles. Ooh,

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[00:23:45] Casey Venus: everything. It took what like 68 episodes off. Who cares?

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[00:23:52] Jeff Nesbitt: they can take 500 episodes out. No one would even notice he's done that much content. I think that Joe Rogan, I mean, I'm not gonna do the math on [00:24:00] this, but I haven't, he's probably been listened to his voice has probably been heard more than any other human on the planet ever to live.

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[00:24:10] Jeff Nesbitt: because I mean, think of how much more he's heard than, um, the guy who did the radio forever. Paul Harvey or something. Yeah. Yeah. Paul Harvey, if you miss the show, you're fucked. You don't get to hear it to hear it again.

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[00:24:28] Casey Venus: Yep. And all because of the, what is it? Suite the Switzerland. Oh

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[00:24:42] I did

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[00:24:50] Jeff Nesbitt: He did it. Like he looked like a fighter. Yeah, you did. I totally did. I saw, I haven't actually seen news radio. Have you ever watched.

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[00:25:05] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know, but I love Bob Odenkirk. I do too. He's great. Um, I just thought of something, you know, um, uh, what's his name? The guy who they always accused of being a CIA agent and he was a host of the gong show.

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[00:25:26] Casey Venus: You're talking about though. The gong show that wasn't like the late sixties, early 70, early seventies. And

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[00:25:36] okay. This section is riddled with inaccuracies and I must clarify. So first of all, this is embarrassing. I really, really wanted to delete this part because, you know, I want you guys to believe that I'm a well-versed in culture and. I really don't like the idea. That you would know, I would make a mistake.

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[00:26:04] Chuck Berry. Or Charles Edward Anderson Berry.

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[00:26:29] Bill Haley and so many other pioneers of the, of the genre. And I am.

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[00:27:01] Jab at Chuck Berry. If you asked me. Anyway. We won't get an end to all that.

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[00:27:12] Not to be confused with Chuck Barris. Or Charles Hirsch Barris born June 3rd, 1929 and died March 21st, 2017. Well, they both died in 2017 in March. Three days apart, actually that's bizarre.

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[00:27:45] Um, okay. So Barris wrote an autobiography titled confessions of a dangerous mind. In which he claimed to have been a CIA agent and an assassin. Huh. the book was made into a film directed by George Clooney.

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[00:28:17] So there you have it. It was all a fake. Or was it.

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[00:28:30] Right? He's got CIA people on the show all the time. He seems kind of like secretly brilliant, even though he likes to play off like, oh, I'm an idiot. clearly not an idiot. Um, Mr. A hundred million dollar deal. Yeah, fuck. Uh, you, you at least have some business sense. You built this brand from nothing in a basement, literally started from nothing other than his existing, mild fame.

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[00:29:01] Casey Venus: wasn't it wasn't anything huge. What fear factor lasted? What three seasons with him or something, or? I don't know. Yeah.

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[00:29:10] Casey Venus: so much fun. But how, who, who's your favorite guests that you've had?

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[00:29:21] I could never pick a favorite guest because then if you brought up another one, I'd be like, oh, I had, they didn't even cross my mind. There's been too many, right? Yeah. But like Paul Stamets is probably one of my favorites because he's the mushroom guy. He's from this area, I think from like the Seattle or Olympia area.

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[00:29:41] Casey Venus: mushrooms. Yes, you have. I was going to, I was actually this really excited. She has, I was telling him my wife, Rebecca, about this. I was like, uh, she goes, well, how do I know him? I was like, we probably don't because I barely know him. I'm I'm everywhere.

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[00:30:07] But I'm like, oh

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[00:30:13] Casey Venus: Uh, it turned out. Okay. It was all right. That's that's a, that's a reach. It's a, it, it was an experience. It was a failed experiment. It was okay for what it was. He can't do that shit around here.

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[00:30:23] I don't mean did it sell? I mean, did it tastes all right. It was a little, a little much. I've actually never eaten them really. Not the Monty talkies.

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[00:30:42] I mean, I put them in oil and his grill lift some Sesame oil and just, just grill them really hard and got a nice press on them. They were, I mean, they're really potent. How

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[00:30:53] Casey Venus: It just depends. Yeah. I mean, a lot of the times people around here just over cook, I mean, they just, [00:31:00]

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[00:31:02] Casey Venus: around a lot.

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[00:31:17] It turns into food. It turns into food. Yeah. Mostly just like, I mean, not a lot of mush. I don't take Sanchez and pop popping on my mouth is it's not

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[00:31:33] So if you want to do that, and I'm always,

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[00:31:38] Jeff Nesbitt: Me too. I'm a pretty, pretty big fun guy fan. A couple of years ago, that movie fantastic fun guy that Louie Schwartzberg film was coming out and they ended up putting it on Netflix eventually. So everyone got to see it, but I worked my ass off to get that thing, to be able to be screened down here at the Neptune theater.

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[00:32:10] And it was fun. I really enjoyed it. That's a great movie. I

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[00:32:16] Jeff Nesbitt: out. Yeah. It's they do a whole bunch of really artistic time-lapse film, like photography, where, and I don't even know how they do that because it's in the woods and a lot of it it's, it's really cool.

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[00:32:29] Casey Venus: think he's like game cameras or something? Like, do you think you get some highlights and they're

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[00:32:42] It's all really nicely narrated and stuff. It's a great film. It's very artistic. Cool. Cool. Which is easy with mushrooms. Yeah, of course. Like you feel that energy when you're just out in the woods, you're just like, there's just life going on under

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[00:33:05] So I had to come up with four dishes. And this was at the Shelburne. So I was the executive chef at the Shelburne for a little stint, but we always tried to come up with something. Cool. So mushroom month was always my favorite because I was always, I always kept it simple. Here's the thing is when you get to that, like matsutake ice cream, you can't do that shit around here.

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[00:33:43] Um, there was really not a lot that I couldn't do as far as like food wise, it just had to be done with a schedule like you had to be done accordingly so that

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[00:33:54] Casey Venus: to make, you have to make money on it. And uh, so we would do wine dinner. Like it was always special games like wine dinners, like winery would come [00:34:00] in and you do this, but this mushroom dinner.

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[00:34:15] Jeff Nesbitt: I'll take pictures of all those.

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[00:34:33] That got so much benefit. So much

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[00:34:51] I mean, it's, it's, it's incredible. It really is incredible. So cooking was like a passion of mine. So I always try to become one with what I was cooking. Like I read it. Right. [00:35:00]

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[00:35:08] Yeah. That just the Jews are out in the forest or the desert or the forest. I don't remember. Maybe both, but there, they were just wandering and, um, God provided food manna from heaven. Boom. They wake up bread all over the ground and it says it fell from the sky. I thought that shit was a mushroom.

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[00:35:27] When you first said that it was like, uh, it was. No, those are mushrooms. There was something growing up from the ground that had been provided.

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[00:35:39] Casey Venus: Yeah. What a good, I mean, what a good storybook that is, you know, it's been one of my favorite storybooks,

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[00:35:45] Even if you, I mean, no matter what you attributed to like earth provided earth provided and they did it, they survived, you know, I don't know how long, but something like 40 to 400 years weird. Yeah.

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[00:36:11] Because it's horrifying. It's very, you're all fucking gonna die and, uh, you'll be taken away before you, you know, if you, if you believe in a, if you've been saved by the blood of the Lord, they don't disappear apparently. And then, and then it's complete fucking mayhem afterwards.

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[00:36:28] Isn't there. Like, no,

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[00:36:31] Jeff Nesbitt: man. God fixes the earth. And uh, no, no, no. I'm saying all the sinners definitely they're gone or out. No, but a saved one. Don't don't we get to come back to the earth at the end, after

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[00:36:45] Jeff Nesbitt: I know it's going to be tight.

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[00:36:50] Casey Venus: I'm going along. I've already strapped in the seatbelt. The hell, man. I'm already I've, I've applied already for the.

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[00:37:02] I think once you're dead, you're dead, man. I really, I really, I mean, it depends on how you define that. Like, I don't think that cause what happens to the energy, it can't be created or destroyed. Right. It just changes. What is you just become something. Yeah. It's funny. You

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[00:37:26] You know? So then I moved along with it, but then I came up with all these, all these theories as growing up of like, what happens when you do die and why people are scared to die? Um, why people are scared to die. I'll never, uh, I can't understand because I'm not scared to die. I think death is a gift. I think death is a gift.

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[00:38:08] You're dispersed, you're dispersed in, in, in, you know, you're dispersed in a more heavenly way of more godlike way of, uh, the good things you've done and how you've impacted people. And then the negative things you've done to other people, or maybe the same people, that's the hell that they have to realize, like say you did really something fucked up to somebody and then you died.

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[00:38:39] Or, or the things that

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[00:39:06] So people are fighting about it all over the world and everybody kind of intrinsically knows that that's what it is.

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[00:39:20] Jeff Nesbitt: social responsibility for adherence.

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[00:39:24] Casey Venus: don't questioning, but if you're not good, guess where you get to go, you get to go to the burning lake of fucking fire, you know? So it. And that terrified. That's what terrifies people. Yeah. So it's a fear-based system. Yeah. And you know, is dangerous, very dangerous. I mean, look, look at it.

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[00:39:41] Jeff Nesbitt: at it because it works. It can create such a powerful structure and then it can take advantage of people when the wrong people are in charge. Right. It can also have potential to do a lot of good look at all the charity work that, you know, religious organizations. Sure. But also look at the, look at all the kids that they bang.

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[00:40:00] Casey Venus: you know, but you look but you, but I don't think most people, I don't think most people look like that. Like what, why

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[00:40:13] Casey Venus: how now, so you look at, so you look at all the Catholic priests, I mean, uh, touching the, you know, the children.

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[00:40:42] They want to God to keep them pure and to keep on a good walk in life. But if you take that sexual energy out of their bodies and like my

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[00:40:55] Casey Venus: you take that out of them. Like you, you,

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[00:40:59] Casey Venus: [00:41:00] Tell you tell them it's bad. Like sex is bad before marriage or take it out of them, then that's double humans and then they, then they, then that's fuckers come on full force, man.

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[00:41:12] Jeff Nesbitt: is looking for an accident. Yeah. It's like, I got to

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[00:41:18] Jeff Nesbitt: way. Well, cause they can't do it in a culturally appropriate way.

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[00:41:23] Casey Venus: within their, within their church. They're not allowed to do. I mean, that's forbidden, you

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[00:41:37] It's fucked up. It is. Okay. I've heard a lot of people

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[00:41:43] Jeff Nesbitt: the religions don't do that. No, most of them. Right. And, and it's it's yeah, it doesn't make sense.

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[00:42:06] Right. But he, he, yeah. So they say there's probably with somebody. I don't know him. Uh, but th it's like,

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[00:42:16] Casey Venus: a human dude. Yeah, exactly. And you tell him that he can't, then he's preaching the word to. That it's okay to procreate when you're married and there's all these little steps that he has to step down from you, like as a, as a hierarchy.

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[00:42:35] Jeff Nesbitt: spread and multiply. Yeah. You know, because if you don't,

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[00:42:40] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's fun. I don't know. I don't know about you, but when I go a few days without having an orgasm, it changes the person I am. honestly, I'll just be completely blunt about it.

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[00:42:59] Casey Venus: And my buddy from [00:43:00] high school sometimes I'll have this like weird vision.

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[00:43:11] Jeff Nesbitt: was like, imagine if, if your job was like, yeah, okay. You don't fuck at all. Just hold on to that energy for us for 60 years, something bad is going to happen.

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[00:43:38] It doesn't belong. Yup. And

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[00:43:43] Jeff Nesbitt: little boys. It does not belong on your

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[00:43:51] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh yeah, I was 13. What about you?

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[00:44:00] So what I, my first ever orgasm, I was in my room looking at the ceiling, playing with the ding ding and, uh, you know, just getting the kind of hard and, you know, I'm just kinda sitting there stroking, right? So the time comes where I feel this weird, you know, the first time

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[00:44:17] You had, did you have for knowledge of jerking off of like the struck, like the structurally, you know how it works? Nope. I learned it. It didn't have friends who talked about

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[00:44:32] And like, guy got this one guy in band said, bust a nut. And I was like, oh, what the fuck does that shit mean? And they said, when it comes out, like when something comes out of your penis and this has gotten yeah there. And I was like, I have no fucking clue. Right. Okay.

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[00:44:46] Yeah. It's kind of a misnomer. Nothing. You remember, you

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[00:45:01] Jeff Nesbitt: fucking hilarious.

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[00:45:07] Casey Venus: And so I'm sitting there and I'm, you know, playing with Peterhead and. And then all of a sudden I was every again, after the Christian days, we had the TJ TGF F on ABC or whatever it was, you had family matters. Remember Steve Urkel, Carl winds, the Winslow family, and the other, I want you to start filling the tingling and shit like that.

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[00:45:42] Right. And so I started just kind of doing it again. And like, then I thought about fucking red Dawn dude, like, oh, just watch red Dawn the night, the, the, that, that, that original. Yeah, the original. Yeah. And like that's hot stuff. Right. When I was orgasming, dude, it was like fucking red. [00:46:00] Like that was awesome.

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[00:46:20] And then there was a couple of neighborhood kids, um, and they would bring fucking videos over like pornographic videos, the first one ever watched. I think that, that, that where I w where I learned what. Busting. And that was, uh, what's called TNT, tit, a bombers of some sort, it was a yellow label and it was like just the video.

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[00:46:46] Jeff Nesbitt: uh, yeah, nineties porn was weird. It was super weird. It was weird. There was, there was no norms. It's still weird. Honestly, porn is always going to be weird, but, um, it was very weird

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[00:47:01] Jeff Nesbitt: innocent.

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[00:47:03] Casey Venus: no, there wasn't like keeping and like all that weird shit. Like it was, it was pretty wholesome and manufactured. Gotcha. Gotcha. Gotcha. Hard. You know, so I remember going up and

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[00:47:14] Casey Venus: laughing. Yeah. Everyone was having a great time.

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[00:47:36] He was like, shit, I got it. Yeah. And then you'd see. And then, uh, then it would just happen. And then it was just like, for me, that's when I, I learned about sex from pornography, which was kind of a weird thing. And then I asked my dad later, you know, when I was like later on like later on in the year when I had masturbated like 500 times and I asked him.

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[00:48:07] Jeff Nesbitt: found a repressed memory?

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[00:48:22] And that's like, that's fucking sexual abuse, man. You shouldn't, you know, but it didn't like, it didn't trigger anything like, Ooh, fuck, I need help for this one. But you know, the cultural associations, you know, I think about it now. I'm like, wow. Okay. So that's how I identified. This is, this is wasn't right.

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[00:48:53] Jeff Nesbitt: Dick.

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[00:48:59] Casey Venus: [00:49:00] Um, but yeah, so it was like, it brought back a lot of weird memories and like I remember as a. When I was my parents, my mom had been, uh, my step-mom had been, uh, was a daycare provider for a bunch of kids and stuff like that.

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[00:49:30] And that brought back a memory of that. Like how, like, it kind of boils back into the Christianity thing about like, you know, this, that and the other. So it was, it brought back like weird. It brought back weird. It's like, did I know, I'm trying to figure out where the line yeah. Where the line was. And as you know, it's 12 years old.

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[00:49:48] Jeff Nesbitt: there's no. And when you are a Christian, at that

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[00:50:08] Um, he, he said, Casey, you did nothing wrong. Like there's no, you shouldn't, I'm sorry. You're feeling this way. And I'm sorry, I didn't talk to you about, you know, sex before, you know, you had saw the, you know, the videos and the, you know, but you know, he goes, there's nothing, you've done nothing wrong. And, and sometimes that's just the way it is.

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[00:50:46] And then, then I would start being the filthy fucking degenerate asshole that I saw on those videos. Right. You know, nothing, anything illegal labor. It was just like, wow, dude, you fucking, really, you trained yourself. You really got, you really got into it, bro. So it was [00:51:00] always like, so I think maybe like sexy it's complicated.

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[00:51:03] Jeff Nesbitt: is because there that's good in some contexts where like, to, just to really just give in and just get filthy with your partner. It's fucking fun. And it's very bonding. It's a very bonding experience. It's really, it's good for us as

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[00:51:24] Like, no, it's cool. It was kind of weird, but I liked that. Appreciate it. And you know, I love you. And then, or you know, doesn't have to go.

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[00:51:34] Casey Venus: my wife. It's usually with my wife. Yeah. I mean, there's been a lot of, I love you, but not relationship at the,

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[00:51:40] It's I mean, you can get, you can really stretch it and go, you go live in different places. You sure can. It's it's a lot of fun women love to hear. I love you married sex in my opinion. 20,000 times better than, than any kind of random hookup. Right. I've never had a good random hookup. That was like, that really blew me away.

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[00:52:02] Casey Venus: was a fucking like, glowing moment, like after a hookup, usually that girl was my girlfriend for a substantial amount of time. We had site, we it's like, it was good. Like, those can be pretty close at the time.

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[00:52:34] Yeah,

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[00:52:49] Casey Venus: Okay. Back to the, maybe the hook, the hook, you know, just little rudder members like hookups like that,

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[00:53:07] Like you biologically will start to align with people you're around. And if you don't have a compatibility, you feel that kind of. I'm rubbing edge of like, where you're trying to meet in the middle, you know what I mean? And if you try to date somebody like that, which we've all done, it doesn't work and it's, it's weird and you can feel it, but when you hit it, right, and you got somebody where you're just like, your pieces just fit like emotionally and physically, like, you know, it's quite elite.

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[00:53:37] Casey Venus: my wife's going to be pissed, but I always call my wife's call it the golden pussy man. Like when we first met, uh, salt, let me do the little story. I'll be romantic. It's beautiful, man. Well, let's just, we, we met, uh, seven years ago.

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[00:54:08] You know, just in the gist of everything, like, Hey, I always thought she was beautiful. And, but I just thought that her D her choices in her life that she made were just were shit. So I'd always try to, um, just kind of tell her like, Hey, you know, you're worth a lot more than this, you know, have some respect for yourself.

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[00:54:46] And, uh, her and her sister and a friend, a mutual friend of ours now, you know, still, uh, yeah, come on up to the ugly sweater party. I was like, okay, cool. That sounds like fun. Thanks for inviting me. I didn't show up. I was at the bar [00:55:00] getting drunk and she comes down after you know, about midnight or so. And she goes, where the fuck were you?

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[00:55:09] Jeff Nesbitt: there. Is that really? What, what it was? Yeah. Where are you? So what was your thought process while you were waiting? Did you, did you just not think about it or were you aware that you were missing the party?

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[00:55:26] Jeff Nesbitt: it was, it was a, it was a flaky Casey thing and not like a nervous Casey

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[00:55:32] So, so that happens slightly

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[00:55:35] Casey Venus: She came in where the fuck were you in? Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Bunch of banner went on. I was like, you know, maybe next time. So couple more day a week goes by. Uh, we go by and, uh, we're hanging out at the bar and she's being friendly and nice. And, uh, the nurses were like, oh yeah, my sister really thinks you're cool.

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[00:56:09] And we went over to my buddy's house and took some mushrooms and shit and uh, we got really fucked up. And then you get to know a person quick like that. Oh boy. Yeah. I remember crawling. Yeah, it was just, I remember her crawling out in the, in the yard and stuff and I was sitting there with a Mario hat on, um, and just laughing my ass super Mario.

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[00:56:45] So I was just, you know, it was over, it was over yes. According to her, it wasn't, but for me it was, you know, so anyway, so I had a little better Reese. I mean, I stayed over at her house once we never, we didn't, you know, Bump uglies or [00:57:00] anything like that? We just, we got drunk. I got drunk

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[00:57:02] Casey Venus: night, or it was just like, fuck that.

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[00:57:17] We all know Roger. Right? I don't know. Roger Maury.

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[00:57:25] Casey Venus: good friend of mine, man. A good friend of mine. He's a good dude. Yeah, he sure was. Um, but I said that I stayed over there because he was dating her sister at the time. So I was like, I just fucking, I don't know.

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[00:57:58] And I was like, [00:58:00] nah, I got to go back to ocean park. Didn't happen to send around a taxi cab. I sent my wife on a taxi cab back to her house and I got a taxi get back to my house. Well, if we go, we do this for like, we do this for weeks. Just, just playing cat and mouse, chasing each other. And then, uh, then one day we.

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[00:58:35] Jeff Nesbitt: Um, and then the same thing when, you know, you know, you're just like, I'm just going to start staying here.

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[00:58:41] Casey Venus: yeah, it was a pretty, uh, it was a pretty fast thing. Right? Cause we were still both pretty hardcore alcoholics and we were drinking a lot. I mean, I was, I was working, I was working at two jobs. I was working at docks Tavern, which I had worked there for like four years. And then I started getting into the culinary.

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[00:59:12] Jeff Nesbitt: then your sleep's fucked up too.

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[00:59:19] Casey Venus: enough. Yeah. At that point it was, you know, so we had, you know, do you ever do

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[00:59:33] Oh, so you did take some. Yeah. Yeah, I did. I, I thought it was kind of cool. It was very, I mean, it was a hell of a drug. I will come back to bath salts. We'll come back to bath salts. I don't want to get off track. Oh no, no, no, no. It's all good. No, I liked your story. It's very romantic. It's romantic and it's I, so I've been editing the Valentine's day episode all week and it's just, it's basically, it's a love letter to me and my wife and it's because it's just us going over a Facebook, [01:00:00] uh, like Valentine's day survey thing, you know, those things that go around where, where she answers, like who's the better driver, who's the better cook who, you know, who gets up earlier and all that stuff.

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[01:00:24] I mean, cause it would be good if it was a couple that gets along, but it'd be even better if it's a couple that fucking hates each other.

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[01:00:44] Like, cause you weren't cause I'd listen. I was listening to the, the, the preface on it, like how you weren't expecting, uh, you know, Alex, Alex to be there and it was fun, you know? So that, I mean, something like that. I mean, now that you're kind of accustomed to it now you'd probably be like, yeah, fuck it.

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[01:01:01] Jeff Nesbitt: and good performers. People who can really get some banter going. Right. Banter's tough. You gotta know how to like rip somebody without hurting their feelings. Yeah. Because the line is very fine and it's, you really got to get right up to it if you want it to be funny.

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[01:01:16] Casey Venus: the point where it's not funny anymore, then you can really tell, you could cut. You could cut the fucking tension and then it's

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[01:01:35] Casey Venus: we'll just finish the story just real quick.

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[01:01:47] Jeff Nesbitt: to do it, man.

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[01:01:57] Never thought in my life. And that it's the first time I've ever been married. I'm [01:02:00] 37. Yeah. That's pretty late. You know, that's pretty, we had, we had a RA when I was 31, you know, and she just turned 30 this last year on December, you know? So we had a little bit of differences.

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[01:02:12] That's seven years, seven years. I got six years with between me and Melissa. Yeah. Yeah. That's not bad at all. It's great, actually. Okay.

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[01:02:29] I mean, yeah. You know, sometimes it's do the think about relationships or like, do I really want to invest more time, but then, then you end up doing it. And then like a couple of years later, I'm like, do I really want to invest more time and start all

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[01:02:42] Casey Venus: way. Yeah. No, it was just invest time knew each other and yeah, time

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[01:02:47] Sure. It's like, if you, if you really try to just like, I mean, that's, I'll say this with the keeping in mind, if you're with a person who you are compatible with, if you really put a lot of energy into your relationship, [01:03:00] time goes by really quick. And before you know, it it's just like, fuck five years have gone by and things are still good, but it, it takes work constantly.

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[01:03:25] How could she leave this dish? And, and you're actually genuinely upset that she left you this dish to wash. And I say she, but really it's me. I'm the only one that's me. It's on the deck. Um, I'm the one who didn't turn my socks right before I put them in the laundry and man, all that stuff, Melissa is really great about that stuff, honestly.

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[01:04:05] Like for example, um, I take medication for ADHD and if I run out it, I don't get, I mean, it's not a huge problem, but I notice and I feel shittier. Sure. And I mean, it's just, just the way it is. That's the price you pay for, for getting the boost that they provide. So every once in a while, I'll have like a day where, um, a day to like up to seven or even a few more sometimes where I just don't take them at all for, for the purpose of get my tolerance down.

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[01:04:57] I don't have crazy, crazy responsibilities at work [01:05:00] or whatever. A lot of times though, for several months, it happened to fall on the same week was, which was right after a Melissa's period ended, which I don't know, sometimes I'm not sure what's okay. Socially norm wise, if I'm not allowed to talk about Melissa's period on a podcast, I will take this out, but I think it's okay.

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[01:05:23] Jeff Nesbitt: when they're on it. I'm sick and tired of everyone acting like a period as a dirty word. It's fucking half of our population has them adults. Yeah. Right. Anyway, um, so I would have this week of just being like 70% of my normal capacity, you know, in every way, mentally, physically, sexually, emotionally to where I'm just like, Ugh, run down at the same week when she's.

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[01:06:06] And just like that whole week becomes about rest to me. It's just like, all right, this is my recharge week. I'm just going to just slow it down and, oh, they're so good for me. I honestly love, I love doing it because it's super uncomfortable and it forces me to just like endure that. And then when I get, when I start taking the medication again, it's, um, it's like, uh, it actually feels like a bonus, like an energy bonus.

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[01:06:34] Casey Venus: that's all, I, that's all I use alcohol man. That's that's I kinda kind of connected with you on that. Like the work week's done, I'm trying to relax. Uh, I might not have a lot to say. I mean, I'll get that point where I'm like to the buzz point and like, then I want to be like sociable and like it helps and then do that.

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[01:07:04] Jeff Nesbitt: snort them. It fucked up my nose.

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[01:07:13] Casey Venus: seven, 16,

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[01:07:29] I remember kids doing that. Well, I would mix it with drugs. Oh, okay. So that it would make my drugs taste better because I was a fucking child. Right. And I was trying to ingest these chemicals that are not meant to be ingested by a child. No, but like 17, 18 years old, I was like, oh, this pill tastes terrible.

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[01:07:47] Casey Venus: me when I was 17, 18. I was like, man, why the fuck does anybody drink this change? For

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[01:08:00] Don't do drugs. You can do drugs. I don't believe that you should not do drugs completely. I think abstinence is actually just as dangerous as full indulgence because it, there is a certain population of certain percentage of the population that is going to strive to get drugs because they feel like shit and they need to feel a little bit better to get it.

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[01:08:26] Casey Venus: something human about you. I think it,

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[01:08:37] Yep. It's still better than the alternative. I, like you said, you're not afraid of death. I'm not afraid of it because I know it's coming, but I also, it helps me to appreciate life. The, there just the possibility of us being here is very small. I always think about being in like the black void of a deep, deep psychedelic trip where you've, you've gone [01:09:00] through all of the parts that are still connected to this reality.

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[01:09:19] That's just nothing. I don't like that at all. No. I mean, out there, when you, if you still remember reality, you're like, I fucking hate this. Nothingness is not, not for me. Yeah. And then when you get back to something is it's precious, but

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[01:09:43] Like, oh, like for the next hundred years after you're dead, like, that's what you'd hope once you hit nothing. This though, which I, I mean, I think like you look at it just like, when you die, close your eyes and nothing in, in cover your ears and you have no sense of like, senses, like, like a deep meditation.[01:10:00]

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[01:10:18] Jeff Nesbitt: Is it normal for you to wonder if you're dead? Like how many times in a normal life do you wonder if you're dead? Uh, I wonder if I'm dead now a few times a year, because I do breath holds and meditation and all this shit I'm you have to, you know, periodically check in and be like, make sure you don't accidentally die.

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[01:10:49] I take this part right here. And I look out and I, there's a weird thing that happens. And I think it's like just looking from the, like the inside out. And you can really like, see. [01:11:00] Your peripherals, but you think to yourself, like, I don't feel human right now. I'm on the other side of what feelings are like, I've, I've gotten to this point and I've had that like, probably I can remember like three times in my life where I was like, man, am I still like, am I still like, what am I?

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[01:11:26] Casey Venus: how is this happening? How am I blinking my eye? Then I'll blink my eyes. Or I'll, I'll, I'll move my arm. Like, how is this

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[01:11:42] Casey Venus: Then you just, then, then all of a sudden, it just kind of cycles in like, like you're then you're in the now then you're like, oh, I'm me. I'm Casey. I'm I'm alive.

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[01:12:00] Okay. Think about this as if we're all like our bodies are just, okay. This is just a crazy scenario I was thinking about, like for a book or a movie. In this future, not future is exciting. It's like an alternate, it's like an alternate reality where instead of us all having a continuous linear line of a narrative for our life, you're just, what if you were just randomly assigned to a new narrative every day or every year or every second and the way that it works, it's like, um, a good, really fast running app in like, or a streaming app where it has to take data from, from the cloud all the time.

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[01:12:57] Um, I I'm thinking, so therefore I am, [01:13:00] and, and all the memories you have are of Casey Venus, the chef, the, the drummer, the, the person who grew up, like your parents, all this stuff, it's right there for you to access. So you're obviously gonna move forward with that line and that narrative line. Right. But then the next moment, what if you just switched and all of a sudden you are.

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[01:13:28] Casey Venus: different. So you go down one brain and then you hit another narrative. And like second later, like, fuck that brain web go into the next one. And like, it could

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[01:13:40] But if you think about it, there's absolutely no evidence that that's not happening right now. Exactly. Isn't that crazy? That's fucking

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[01:13:59] You [01:14:00] know, what, if I was able to see that just and against it, and then like another incident I was like in another they're all

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[01:14:08] Casey Venus: I think that shit's common, man. I think there's, I think there's something. Somebody is hiding from us that, I mean, because our brains are so fucking powerful and wired,

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[01:14:16] They evolve faster than anything else. It's, it's crazy. In real time, we've built new neural connections all the time that they didn't even know about that shit. 10, 10, 15 years ago, when I went to college and learn neuroscience stuff or psychology, it was just brand new that they acknowledged that there was.

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[01:14:51] So you're born with a ton of neurons, brain cells, and then you, as you use them, those systems that fire together, [01:15:00] wire together, you get these neural patterns, like kind of like ski tracks and snow, and you get better and better at taking those paths. So that's why it's so important to get the right stimulation for a human brain at the right time at hit these benchmarks for language and cognition and social interaction.

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[01:15:24] Casey Venus: Yeah. But you look at like that. I feel like as myself, I F I feel that I am, um, I feel like I'm learning more than I ever have in my life.

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[01:15:53] Like, I feel like I'm like, man, I know this, I'm starting to study this and I can retain, I can retain information a [01:16:00] little bit better without.

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[01:16:09] Casey Venus: years from now, we'd be like, oh, do I remember doing this podcast?

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[01:16:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. And then, I mean, and then especially if you party that happens a lot.

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[01:16:40] Jeff Nesbitt: and it just the sheer volume of exposures, think of how many people you've met in your life since

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[01:16:50] Yeah. So

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[01:16:54] Casey Venus: picture time. Huh? I knew I did. I knew I combed my hair for a good reason. It reminded

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[01:17:06] Casey Venus: Oh like a drunk idiot. Oh, you look great. Great. Thanks for making this really comfortable for me. And this is really cool. I, I, it, it really is rambled by the river. We are, we really are rambling and like, yeah, it's right out there.

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[01:17:28] I don't know. Colton chakra told me that it's some right-wing group or that there's like some organization that does news and shit, but it's like, fuck. I hope that's not ramble. Like, I don't want to be. Yeah. They're going to

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[01:17:43] And they're like, what the fuck is this Phil? We're going to cancel

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[01:17:59] Casey Venus: now [01:18:00] it took me a long time to realize what I was. Uh, I took a little test online.

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[01:18:22] Uh, cause I hate fucking Donald Trump so much. There's everybody. There's a, there's a, there's a bone, every bone in my body. Fuck that guy. But I mean, I figured, but you know, he had, you had a, you had, you had, uh Jorgeson and I've, I've voted for, I voted for Gary Johnson twice. There wasn't a lot of good choices.

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[01:18:50] Jeff Nesbitt: down to. We should just start a new party called gun, toting liberals, gun, toting liberals. Cause there's a lot of us, I think the GTL.

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[01:19:04] Jeff Nesbitt: what's the party became a thing, right? Why can't the GTL? I really am a GTL. I

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[01:19:13] Jeff Nesbitt: lots. I've seen you post some stuff. Oh

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[01:19:17] So I don't know. I actually think it's good when they say, yeah, we're not going to fuck with this guy

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[01:19:29] Casey Venus: Like it's not that they're not violent at all. I mean

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[01:19:34] People are violent. They're built to use for violence. Sure. But they, uh, they just under, I have the same opinion of drugs that I do for, I mean, for guns that I do for drugs, I think people need to be well-educated and things need to be available under certain circumstances and legalities because people are going to seek them out, regardless of whether it's legal or not.

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[01:20:21] Casey Venus: that doesn't make it.

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[01:20:40] Like we, we, we, we make it, if you can pay all your bills, we're more fortunate than, than

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[01:20:51] Casey Venus: guns for me, like two years ago, it was like, that's what I really got into it. They're fun as fuck.

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[01:21:03] Jeff Nesbitt: what is similar? It really is like, yeah, what is this feeling? It's kind of a

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[01:21:13] Yeah. Like I, I mean, I get, I get both sides. I have to be, I have to empathize, you know, for the ones that don't think that drugs are or the guns or, um, you know, they think their guns are, you know, are evil and he's like, no, it's the people behind those machines as he's just like a car. Yeah. You know, people are arguing.

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[01:21:52] I mean, Mo all the time. I never heard of a, like a huge shooting here except for a couple, you know, a couple of times, but it's mostly car accidents. You

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[01:22:02] Casey Venus: we, are we, uh, are we banning those? Are we, are we, are we hell bent on that?

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[01:22:12] Jeff Nesbitt: that one a little bit easier for me to swallow because I do understand the logic. Why do you need it sounds or whatever,

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[01:22:28] Jeff Nesbitt: died.

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[01:22:30] Casey Venus: the capacity. So the capacity rounds, like, so they're only limited to 10 rounds, right? What, uh, some, some rifles, which I carry it. Uh, sometimes they carry 30 and, um, what's the difference between 10 and 30, 20, right? Is that 20 lives? It's going to be saved from that maybe. Yeah.

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[01:22:59] Jeff Nesbitt: how's [01:23:00] the logic probably does. Yeah. Have two more, at least. So

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[01:23:10] Jeff Nesbitt: It's it's not a real it's, it's probably just. Make people feel better, I guess, honestly, that seems like it is cause you're right. It does not, it's not going to save any lives directly. Right. It's not going to discourage any people who are going to do malevolent things. It's it is kind of just, but also it's not going to really hinder anybody who needs their gun for work either, or is it

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[01:23:32] So the, so, uh, you know, law enforcement, um, do they

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[01:23:38] Casey Venus: So the thing is like, if you have, so say you have a pistol that holds 12 rounds in the magazine and it can't hold, uh, you know, my

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[01:23:46] Casey Venus: As long as you you're long, you're good. As long as you own it as long, but you can't transfer that gun over to anybody anymore.

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[01:24:14] That's a pretty thing semi-automatic, you know, so it's just it's I don't think, you know, they had similar, they had similar, uh, um, um, bills in 2000, 20,021 that didn't pass like by a lot. So, I mean, I think that, I mean, I think the, that amendment, you know, is going to be upheld in a, in a proper manner. Like I said, it's, we're one of the.

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[01:24:58] You're not allowed to, you're not [01:25:00] allowed to even enter in the, uh, they won't let you

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[01:25:06] Casey Venus: Yeah. I went to three of them this last, like three weeks ago, and they said, Nope, Maryland in Washington. Or maybe they changed the laws.

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[01:25:13] I go to we'd conference every year in Wenatchee, and they raffle off a rifle as a, as a prize. And if I don't actually always,

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[01:25:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's that's if it's bolt

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[01:25:39] Yes, you can. You can have.

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[01:25:58] If we're making laws [01:26:00] about how many bullets you can hold in your deadly killing machine, you know, for

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[01:26:14] Jeff Nesbitt: exactly. I think it should be hard to get a gun.

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[01:26:39] You don't want to give him a gun. Yeah. Yeah. So, no, he's leaving town. I need it today. Like, oh, geez. Now Kurt just go home buddy throughout bed. But yeah. But then again, I don't want, I I'm so glad I don't have to make gun laws. No. Or abortion laws or any of that shit who would do that job? Terrible. Nope.

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[01:27:01] Casey Venus: know, the people that are making them are ones that

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[01:27:18] She was like a waitress and right at the bar, the bar there. And, uh, yeah, she is a kind of a celebrity politician. She is weird. A lot of the right wing hater. Yeah. But they all still masturbate looking at pictures of

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[01:27:36] Jeff Nesbitt: the government. Yeah. I haven't blown a load to a politician like that since Ruth Bader Ginsburg.

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[01:27:41] Casey Venus: Yeah. The end days are like the early

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[01:27:59] Casey Venus: Janet [01:28:00] Reno.

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[01:28:02] They're not anymore they're or they sh they should be, but like, I mean, Ted Cruz is definitely still a dork. Lindsey Graham is a dork. Yeah. Oh, Mitch. McConnell's, that'd be a compliment to that motherfucker that guy's melting.

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[01:28:19] Jeff Nesbitt: I mean, I don't want to talk shit about his looks.

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[01:28:43] They say that too, that too. But no, I'm a company, man. Uh, they don't, they're not going to disappear me. I can help them out somehow. Somehow you'll find a use for me, politicians. Yeah. I've worked for the government since I was a kid. I like it. So I didn't

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[01:29:00] Jeff Nesbitt: living? I kill weeds.

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[01:29:22] And then they distribute those grants to projects in the area like for salmon restoration. Right? So like, if you own a piece of property, that's on a river, that's been heavily logged. So it's all fucked up. Cause they log. Destroyed our local rivers. Yeah. So salmon used to be so abundant here and it was just like, it made millionaires out of, we are sitting in Chinook, Washington, which 120 years ago, or so I think it was something like that.

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[01:30:08] And the runs are just not what they used to be and getting worse all the time with the hatchery conflicts, with people, not fully seeming to understand the genetic that, I mean, it's a major problem. Mixing hatchery, genetics with wild genetics and how some biologists think that that's totally okay. You know, like whatever it's going to straighten itself out eventually because it doesn't matter though.

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[01:30:39] Casey Venus: a fishermen man. I was looking at a couple of escape pound. Uh, so winter still had a pretty predominant right now and I've been chasing a man and uh, I looked at a couple of escape reports for the naysayers.

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[01:31:11] Jeff Nesbitt: was.

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[01:31:12] Casey Venus: still. Um, no, I lost two of them. Um, but it was pretty low and Clearwater. It was kind of a miracle that I even even hooked onto one. There's a couple, there's only like if you're drift boating, there's like seven holes. If you're walking, there's like three, so you get up to them and then they, if they're not there, they're not there.

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[01:31:45] Jeff Nesbitt: that many fish escape count. Yeah. How do they even quantify? That's weird.

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[01:31:50] Casey Venus: in there. Yeah. It's nothing. I mean, you go up to like, you're like a Shelton, all those, like the hoe and all those shit that there's like, like 3000, 4,000 hatcheries rolling. Like [01:32:00] hatchery still had rolling

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[01:32:06] Casey Venus: Oh, a lot.

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[01:32:09] Jeff Nesbitt: should be a lot of, and the justification for that, if I'm not mistaken is to preserve wild genetics, right? Yep. Exactly. As the interbreeding and the competition. Oh, that's so messy. They say

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[01:32:30] I want to say five to 15% greater if you let them go. I mean, but the really though, I mean, I've never hooked into a wa I've never hooked into a wild steelhead, really. I mean,

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[01:32:45] Casey Venus: No, there, there, there, there, I mean, sometimes you see it, there's a little bit like, like quarter inch that are still on there, but I mean, it's lazy.

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[01:33:03] Jeff Nesbitt: yeah. Batteries are amazing. They are. They're so cool. That's a, that's a really good when they come back, like

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[01:33:13] Like the males die. You see, you see them in the river coming back and they're, they're starting to fall apart. They're starting to mold out. Okay.

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[01:33:28] That's the part that breaks my heart because that, that was supposed to, I mean, supposed to say who, but that would have kept going if humans weren't here and not even humans because it was going just fine before white people, we fucked it up and I feel real bad.

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[01:33:49] Jeff Nesbitt: a lot of things.

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[01:34:08] Casey Venus: under their agenda.

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[01:34:26] There's not design. Yeah. That really design, like, if you're not, if you're not how she was even voted in, there is beyond me. But I mean,

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[01:34:50] Casey Venus: you're you're you're, you're, you're, you're the voice of like millions of hunters and, uh, conservationists.

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[01:35:12] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. We, I just talked about that yesterday on the podcast, but, um, yeah, poachers fucking suck.

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[01:35:38] Casey Venus: which is trying to restrict, uh, the 2022, uh, spring bear season.

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[01:35:47] Jeff Nesbitt: bear is a very, very dangerous animal. It should be hunted. Yeah,

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[01:35:57] They provide, um, you

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[01:36:19] And because there's too too many foxes or coyotes or something, you can up the limit on those a little bit and just balance it out a bit. We can do this. So the, to, to be a person who's just like, wants to just abolish hunting or thinks that hunting is just, you know, uncategorically wrong. It's, it's shortsighted and it's ignorant.

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[01:36:57] It's just the way it is. And whether that's a plant, [01:37:00] that doesn't mean that nothing died to give it to you. I mean, you know, how many animals die and large-scale agriculture that makes all that fucking vegetarian. Mass amounts, soy. Oh God. Yeah. The amount of rain forests that have been wiped out for soy and Palm tons, it's just, it's messy.

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[01:37:41] I, even if he's wrong, like I'm, I want to live in a world where people can be fucking wrong and right now we don't seem to live in that world.

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[01:38:02] But then you start to share do, but then you, then you try to, then you try to like, I don't know what we would call it. Like then you try to like appease your friends and you're like, oh, I'm against that. Or I, I, you know, like you play, you play the parts. Yeah. And then, but then, you know, time goes on and then another, you know, another controversial thing happens.

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[01:38:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Yes. And that's a valid perspective as well. Absolutely. It is. We gotta be able to move forward. Sure. Yeah.

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[01:38:43] Jeff Nesbitt: you can, if you want, but it might not benefit you in any way who's winning here.

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[01:39:00] Casey Venus: but they're fun though. I mean, that's, they are, they really are conspiracy theories.

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[01:39:05] Jeff Nesbitt: real. It's a thing that happens in real life, but the people who go balls deep into trying to explain them and they get so passionate and twitchy, and it's just like, I'm not that guy, but sometimes I am and that's okay. I really think that Joe Rogan started having these doctors on and talking to people who completely disagreed with the accepted medical narrative of COVID, which is ballsy to do in the first place, because he's Joe Rogan is well aware that Pfizer is powerful.

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[01:40:05] And it's just like any one of those people. I wonder if they've actually done their research and listened to the shit, listen to a few episodes. It takes a long ass time. It like, I feel like it's hard to believe that very many of those people have actually put in the time to consider him and his message and who he is as a human being and what he's trying to add to the conversation and to the world.

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[01:40:43] Casey Venus: fucking racist? Oh, I got no, not like that, but you know what I mean? Like what do you think?

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[01:41:06] No, not,

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[01:41:11] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. But you do have to pay for it. Like you own up for what you say. You have to, you have to be, there's gotta be responsibility, but. And I'm not even saying this. Shouldn't like, I'm not against cancel culture. I'm doing air quotes because I don't think it's a real thing.

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[01:41:32] Casey Venus: And do you think that the people that are, do you think the people that are canceling Joe Rogan are actually fans of Joe Rogan? Do you think that they, do you think that more people? I think the people, I think that, I think the way that Joe Rogan has all of his listeners as they're, they're like, fuck you, man.

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[01:41:55] Jeff Nesbitt: know, like as the people who live in real life, the people who live in, in cable news world. [01:42:00] Yeah. Believe that Joe Rogan has been destroyed and the people who live in real life, which means on the internet, they know Joe, Rogan's just fucking fine.

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[01:42:12] Casey Venus: on. I don't watch the dude. I watch, I don't watch the news sometimes. I'll, you know, I'll check on my old buddy Trump and see how he's

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[01:42:22] Casey Venus: Well, he had the,

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[01:42:26] Casey Venus: now.

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[01:42:38] Jeff Nesbitt: transcripts. Oh, they got them like a Nixon style thing. Huh? Yeah.

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[01:42:45] And so many people love him. I think he's going to be okay.

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[01:43:02] Which,

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[01:43:11] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I'm sure that's gotta be,

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[01:43:18] I thought it was a fucking joke when the fucking host of the fucking, what was the show he had? The apprentice was R was for four years, our president of the United

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[01:43:35] It was bizarre. I couldn't

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[01:43:38] Jeff Nesbitt: believe it. It was good. And it'd be bizarre if Hillary won. Yeah, exactly. And she didn't even when it was like out, out of the world

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[01:43:47] Jeff Nesbitt: Trump. Really? Okay. This is a very controversial question. Right. But I I'll tell you my honest God opinion, if you will tell me yours.

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[01:44:01] Casey Venus: I don't think it was done intentionally. I think that the whole system, if you have three differences, you have mail in. You know, right in, you know, go to the site. I think, I mean, with that many fucking votes coming in, I think there is something that had been

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[01:44:17] Yeah. But I don't

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[01:44:35] Jeff Nesbitt: But the level of vitriol that was on both sides, people just fucking hate it. The other side. Yep. That is a powder keg for corruption. I think the chances that there was no corruption in that election are so fucking miniscule that it's not even worth discussing. There absolutely was, was corruption in the election, just like all the other elections, because that's how fucking people [01:45:00] work.

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[01:45:02] Casey Venus: lobbyists, man. Exactly. I mean, it's, it's, it's inevitable. It's there there's, there's something that didn't, they, there was a lot of money that got transferred in the other side of

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[01:45:19] He won the. In a system that we use in the system involves a ton of fuckery. People don't want to acknowledge that,

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[01:45:34] Jeff Nesbitt: are way too smart, not to fuckery an election like that. That's part of the ingredients.

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[01:45:58] They had that much hate for that man. [01:46:00] Trump. He was going to go out some way or another

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[01:46:13] Jeff Nesbitt: is he tired? Jesus

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[01:46:16] Let's just hit money and go fucking, you know, go fuck Epstein's fucking leftovers. You know, like do what you

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[01:46:26] Casey Venus: is manipulate and sex trafficking, touch children. I mean, it's pretty much

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[01:46:31] Casey Venus: man I'm going to get fucking killed tomorrow.

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[01:46:42] Jeff Nesbitt: call this number. I'll worry about that. When more people download the podcast. Yeah. The, but it is like, you do have to be careful about what you say and in all contexts nowadays you're being recorded most of the time on the internet, man.

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[01:47:00] Casey Venus: I'll be talking to my wife about something and sure shit. She'll look over to. We see the same shit. We were like seeing ads for

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[01:47:14] We were just talking about go-karts and now there's a go-kart ad on my phone. It's like, oh my God. And now it's just so commonplace that it doesn't even phase me. It happens every

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[01:47:31] Like somebody is listening all of your fucking phones, listening to you, whether who's who's controlling your phone, who's handling your phone or who ha who's handling the network, your phone's on. Like, that's pretty disturbing. And I would be paranoid too, if I really like decided to put myself into that.

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[01:47:52] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, exactly. If you look too deep, if you pull the veil and really, really looking, and then you're the asshole for going off grid, you know what I mean? [01:48:00] Exactly. You don't want to be the crazy person.

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[01:48:12] Casey Venus: a fucking million Minos. The one shark man and the shark is our government. We got 1 million minnows, the one shark of how many sharks are out there.

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[01:48:41] There is nothing in this world would ever make it be like, oh, poor you, thanks for voting for me. But I'm not gonna, you know,

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[01:48:56] Casey Venus: like, I don't know why the people like that though.

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[01:48:58] Jeff Nesbitt: he's an entertainer and they're [01:49:00] entertaining and attained. They, they

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[01:49:04] Jeff Nesbitt: So there's like the psychological effect of, of liking people more when you're exposed to them more. So it's just, it's, it's a very simple correlation.

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[01:49:29] Yo. Yeah. And then all of a sudden he starts gaining traction and people start taking them seriously. And they're like, well, we already liked this guy and they don't even really stop to think. This is a completely different thing that he's tried to do now. He might fuck it up. They just think this is a guy I like, it's trying to do a thing.

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[01:49:50] Casey Venus: poor people would ever think that, like, that he was going to like extend any sort of arm out

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[01:49:59] Casey Venus: they watched the [01:50:00] apprentice. They sat home and the little Midwestern fucking towns in Southern towns and watching the apprentice, watching just fire people that they didn't like, or they did like, oh fuck you, Trump, you, you fired though.

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[01:50:26] And then you get like, over like three quarters of America that watched TV, like on a habitual basis. And they start to believe, I mean, it's like fucking brainwashing them. And then yeah, of course he's going to, oh, he's going to be the next president.

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[01:50:46] Oh, you

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[01:50:48] Jeff Nesbitt: but that's, it couldn't be all. It's not all that because there there's gotta be people. Like, I mean, well, I know the Republican party is full of rich people who have, um, no problem. Just being like, [01:51:00] yeah, Trump's an idiot, but he's gonna protect my money. So I'm gonna vote for him.

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[01:51:17] Casey Venus: and the fucking hedge fund fuckers and all the, you know, I mean, all of

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[01:51:24] Casey Venus: I, and it took me, it took me a while to like, to really think that, you know, but then I looked at it and I was like, man, it's kind of like blue collar guys, like me that are like, like $70,000 in their fucking retirement and shit.

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[01:51:38] Jeff Nesbitt: tax things got a lot better. And they've gotten worse since he's been gone at least for a lot of people, but that's not all president. What's one dude to have to do with that. Really. I

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[01:51:52] I mean, the more you're paying people, the more they'll be like, oh, it's going to cost, you know, the more you're paying your, your [01:52:00] employees, the price of fucking, uh, of goods are going to go

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[01:52:09] Like inflation is, is going to be terribly bad, terrible. It's going to get worse. It has to, because things are getting more and more expensive all the time. Less people seem to be working. What the fuck? People like the job market's really rough right now. It's hard to find people to hire. And yeah,

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[01:52:28] Uh, I don't, like I said, I don't try to follow the internet too much, but this guy went to like 68 different, he applied 68 different, uh, businesses. And, um, and he was trying to explain how, if, if the job market was really hurting for people, he got an, I think he, I don't quote me on this. I think he only got an interview for two out of the 68 jobs that he'd hired for.

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[01:52:59] Jeff Nesbitt: was [01:53:00] this guy? I don't know. That matters. That matters. I've actually seen a doctor. I

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[01:53:12] So he went to every help, wanted, you know, uh, internet outdoor,

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[01:53:26] Casey Venus: that's what the PPP loans had fucking sourced

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[01:53:40] But I mean, not anymore. I think,

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[01:54:01] So we mean, we were in a three-week time. We'd fucking several

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[01:54:10] Casey Venus: how we blew it. That's really okay. We have nothing

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[01:54:18] That's what that money was for. Yeah, exactly. Stimulus. I mean, to me, on a personal level, you might've want to save a little bit. Sure. Yeah. The, the whole economy was, was boosted by all that money. It really did help. And then now that they're tightening back a little bit, it fucking sucks. Like the stock, market's not doing shit and crypto's not doing shit.

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[01:54:42] Casey Venus: so we're going to go. We want to go gun mode again, gun mode that the Trump tokens that I got about my first fucking gun, my hand gun with what was it?

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[01:54:55] Oh, gotcha. Gotcha. Oh, I thought you token is a crypto word.

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[01:55:05] Jeff Nesbitt: there's yeah. There's not that many resources. I think there's, there's a market there for Reddit

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[01:55:11] Jeff Nesbitt: information on, right.

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[01:55:19] Casey Venus: Right? Cause they're getting fucking paid probably $70,000 an episode or a video that they're putting on, you know

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[01:55:26] You figure

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[01:55:44] I was like, can we get up, man? So we meet up and have a beer and

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[01:55:54] Casey Venus: the internet is real and the internet controls, most of the, it

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[01:56:04] Right. Cause it is it's different, but it is, it's still its own thing.

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[01:56:26] Jeff Nesbitt: independent browsers.

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[01:56:46] Is that part of the dark, the dark? I wouldn't be surprised if it was like, I haven't been to any of those. How do

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[01:57:07] Or I would, I would be terrified to even go into the dark web. Well,

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[01:57:11] Casey Venus: going back into, uh, um, um, what was the, uh, fro frostbite?

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[01:57:18] Casey Venus: and Limewire. Yeah. And then you fucking download shit and it'd come up and like some weird, like weird, shitty porn

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[01:57:26] I've got

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[01:57:30] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh man. Accident, the porn days of early computing. That is so funny now to think about like people sitting there waiting 10 minutes for one, take one, beat off. Yeah. What you gotta, you gotta do you a lot of work in your head. Maybe one pager, maybe get a picture of what's going on in this scenario.

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[01:57:48] Jeff Nesbitt: but then on the years where it's at a one picture, I say, keep them in my head. You never know when you're going to need that fight. Oh, speaking of ejaculation, one more thing before we go. Cause we're getting pretty close. Yes, sir. Um, I [01:58:00] didn't think about this when you were talking about your, uh, the, your family matters, uh, bust.

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[01:58:22] And um, so I thought about this when you were talking about Trump and the apprentice, when I was like 14, the apprentice was, you know, all the rage. And so I'm in a, like sleeping in this hallway in Nakota. So we lived like in a little mother-in-law apartment, off the back of the post office. And, um, there was a, it was a one bedroom.

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[01:59:04] And so we just threw a bed in there and like the bed was touching on both sides of the wall. So it's literally a hallway and, um, there was no flooring in there. So the ground was all dirty and shit, but the water heaters in there, there's extension cords, running all over the place, you know, standard hallway living.

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[01:59:41] I didn't think about her sexually while I was watching the show right. In the least, but my hormonal 14 year old brain, fuck the hell out of her and then blew a load in my underwear. And I woke up and I was like, that was the craziest thing. I, that

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[01:59:57] Like, when you remember, you remember like being like [02:00:00] specifically like, oh, you might have wet dreams. That's when they started giving you deodorant. That's when you start getting your boner and seal you did. I don't remember. That's awesome that you remember that like your first recalled

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[02:00:13] Casey Venus: Wow. That's that's dude, I can't, I I'm I've dug deep into, uh, my where's my, or was my first wet dream at,

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[02:00:30] Casey Venus: I was telling me my mind, my mind's telling me when I, uh, when I'm sleeping, like I get to that point, dude.

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[02:00:40] Jeff Nesbitt: but you need the pressure when you wake up. Oh, that's a bad feeling. Fuck a gun jammed. Yup. Oh, that's the worst. And blocked up. That's the worst. It's actually when you're actually having sex and that happens, like it happens to me if I'm really exhausted or something.

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[02:01:06] Casey Venus: or you're draining the plug. And it's like, not even, there's no full it's just like, you still feel full.

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[02:01:16] Jeff Nesbitt: yep. It's like, there's a thickness now in my body. That that is not pleasant. What do they call it in the

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[02:01:36] I was about ready to bust on that because it can feel like sure, sure. Yeah. So they do it and then they stop and then you get that feeling. And then all of a sudden it's like, you either blow a load and you don't feel it or you get a little bit of it and then you. It dribbles out this attack, but then you're ready to go for another round.

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[02:01:55] Jeff Nesbitt: trigger the

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[02:02:03] Jeff Nesbitt: a way to prolong

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[02:02:15] But if

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[02:02:21] Casey Venus: exactly. Or think about, but like, like, uh, zombies, like being shot in the head makes me horny. So

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[02:02:30] Casey Venus: times during sex. Fuck man. Like, how am I going to stop this one?

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[02:02:33] Jeff Nesbitt: it's like the guy who's, I can't stop getting hard at baseball games. Always tell you, like, just think of baseball. Ah, dang it. Seeing those guys

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[02:02:45] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. But, oh, we were going to talk about baseball. We hit two hours though.

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[02:02:50] Casey Venus: before we go, I have a, I have an actual present for you besides really. Besides the recipes I brought you to Edgar Martinez, fucking re uh, not a rookie card, but it's [02:03:00] an autograft out of 1 99. Wow, man. Something cool. I mean, I asked you if you'd like the Mariners, you're like, you weren't like hard about them, but I'm hard about the Mariner.

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[02:03:08] Jeff Nesbitt: kid is very hard about them. Well, uh, one would be

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[02:03:13] Jeff Nesbitt: you. Thank you, man. I have lots

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[02:03:18] Jeff Nesbitt: gift. Maybe, maybe one

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[02:03:21] And for sure off,

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[02:03:33] Casey Venus: to ask any of the PowerPoint?

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[02:03:35] I don't even know if I got to them. Where did I just even put my phone? Uh,

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[02:03:49] Jeff Nesbitt: Okay. Yeah, I'll pull up the list.

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[02:03:54] Jeff Nesbitt: question.

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[02:04:14] Casey Venus: It was a little, I mean, it's starting to gray and dark and a little bit, but I like that

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[02:04:19] Like get a little stank on. I know this

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[02:04:29] Jeff Nesbitt: and I, the Napa cabbage as a, what kind of you use? Yeah,

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[02:04:38] Yeah. I was like six. No, it was like F after it's all said and done after all the fermentation, after when I was going to pull it and put it into the, you know, stop fermenting, it was like 60 pounds. Wow. So I use Napa cabbage bought that and I salted it out and I put like per, you know, per 20 pounds, I put like, like five cups of saw or fi uh, one quarter of, of, uh, salt [02:05:00] on it and let it just ooze out.

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[02:05:21] I'm a huge ginger fan, but I did that and I had a couple, a little bit of a go-to Chang and some go-to Gorrow, which has some Korean like, uh, you know, Korean chili paste. It's a go-to Chang. And then is that like

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[02:05:35] Casey Venus: No, uh, we'll go chain. Yes. Yes, it is.

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[02:05:56] And, uh, and then, so when we were doing our pop-up, which [02:06:00] we could probably talk about at some other point, uh, that we had for the ramen, I was doing this for our, for our ramen, of course. And I went three weeks and I just let it ferment like a month and a half. And then, uh, I've used it like I've given it to people like the public for the last year.

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[02:06:24] Jeff Nesbitt: crazy how that's just it just, but

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[02:06:30] Jeff Nesbitt: you know,

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[02:06:36] And then it's been in the refrigerator for one

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[02:06:44] Casey Venus: The fermentation process. Because if I were to get, let it go any like two or three weeks more, it just mush up. Yeah. It would have been shitty and it's still kind of mushy now, but I mean, the flavor is so complex.

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[02:06:56] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I'm a big fan of kimchi and it [02:07:00] huge. Yeah. I eat it every day. It's really, it's a major staple of my diet dude. It's so good for your gut sauerkraut too. I like, I love fermented foods period because there I've always just liked the taste they taste fits.

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[02:07:21] Casey Venus: like farting out of a lot. Like fermented foods, maybe fart a lot. I think it's like

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[02:07:28] Like then, then a good bowl, not a bowl of kimchi, but I'm going to fuck, man. I'll eat half a jar. Easy. I love that stuff. There's also, it reminds me of Asian food, like, uh, but not, not like Panda express, but like straight food. The, the Asian plate lunch is Mike. My favorite fucking lunch, which is just like a teriyaki chicken with rice macaroni salad and a little bit of kimchi.

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[02:07:53] Casey Venus: you've been a tutus wagon. Are you in the tutus wagon there? I haven't seen

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[02:08:00] Casey Venus: man. Yeah. Eileen's dude had

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[02:08:07] Casey Venus: that I've ever had char broiled and just like marinated for like two days or so.

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[02:08:20] Jeff Nesbitt: that it was just like, that was consistent to the portion sizes. I mean, she doesn't have a business anymore. The building doesn't even exist, but it's not even alive anymore.

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[02:08:29] Jeff Nesbitt: Damn time flies. It does. It is tight. Speaking of which Tom wrapped this thing up, man. Well, man, thanks again for coming. This is fun. Yeah, absolutely. Good one. This is the fifth podcast I've done this week and it was a, it's probably one of the best. I really, really had a good time. And I think that also made me kind of feel relaxed because I'm just like this.

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[02:08:54] Casey Venus: Appreciate it.

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