Love in the Time of Covid-19 with Melissa Nesbitt

Melissa Nesbitt

Intro

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[00:00:08] Welcome to the show, everybody. This is ramble by the river. I'm your host, Jeff Nesbitt. And we have a lovely show for you today. It is February 14th, 2020 to Valentine's day.

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[00:00:32] I hope that whoever you've got with you by your side is holding you close. And you're really just feeling that connection because that's what it's all about. It's not about the candy and the jewelry and you know, the gifts elaborate romantic gestures. They're great. We love those too. But what it's really about is just that feeling of connection.

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[00:01:14] And if you don't have a person that you can direct that to focus on just being in love with the world, being in love with creation, love is important. Love is one of the only good forces in this universe that can just cause drastic change. And really, I think we all know it to be true. Love is the only thing that is going to balance out all the hate.

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[00:02:02] This has become one of my favorite episodes because it's just raw. It shows the dark side, the light side, the hard side, the easy side of our relationship of who is Jeff and Melissa Nesbitt. What are they? Who are they as a couple? And I think you really get a good idea of that by listening to this. So I hope you guys enjoy.

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[00:03:43] But for the most part, you still get the bonus episodes. You still get the behind the scenes stuff and you still get the personal messages and we haven't done any Q and A's because to be completely honest, people don't seem to have that many questions for me, but if we ever. Um, I would do that for sure.

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[00:04:16] She was a great sport and we really had a fun time doing that episode. If you missed it, you can find it@ramblebytheriver.com. You can always find our newest episode there as well as links to the entire ramble by the river catalog. What are people saying about it? I've had a ton of people just reaching out to me and telling me that they thought Hannah was hilarious.

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[00:04:54] At least has got a lot of good points there. I think that I should do a little bit extra Melissa banter for this [00:05:00] next episode. So we decided to come out here and record a little bit. You know, before I know it, we had two hours in and we made a whole episode and I was hoping that would happen when I started, but I didn't get my hopes up and I didn't want to put too much pressure on Melissa about it, but this episode is pretty organic.

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[00:05:33] I think while I was editing, I had more laughs per minute than any other episode. And it wasn't even full of jokes or anything. It was just funny. We have good banter and it was just a good time. So you feel that it comes through in the recording and I feel like if, once you hear it, you're like, oh yeah. I feel like I'm in the.

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[00:05:55] news and current events. I'm going to make this quick this time, because I don't feel [00:06:00] like doing a whole bunch of news. I haven't been watching the news. I've been just trying to live my life.

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[00:06:22] I mean, I don't know about really exciting, but it's, I've been watching the winter Olympics in Beijing, and it is mildly exciting. The United States is not killing it per se. We're not doing bad. We've got some gold medals, but there are some countries who are, you know, making us there. Bitch. Let's take a look.

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[00:07:12] That's not a lot of, one hundreds of a second. Over 300 metals will be awarded to Olympians participating in the 2022 winter games with 15 sports and 109 events ranging from skiing to bobsledding to figure skating. The United States came to Beijing with the second, most winter Olympic metals with 305.

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[00:07:52] Um, you know what? I can't do this. I don't care about the fucking Olympics. I'm only doing this because my wife wanted me. [00:08:00] She's very into the Olympics and I've watched it with her and enjoyed it quite a lot. But to be honest with you, I was just pretending because I wanted to get in her pants.

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[00:08:25] I don't care this isn't worth my energy to try to make sense of all this. I don't give a fuck. I'm glad it exists. I'm glad people are enjoying it. I think it's very helpful, but it's not my thing. If you want to look up some shit about the Olympics, find a different podcast, Melissa, I'm sorry.

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[00:08:47] Casey Venus, real standup dude. Great podcaster. He came by yesterday. We did a podcast and he left me a gift, which, I mean, this may be confusing because I just ranted about how I don't give a fuck [00:09:00] about sports, but he left me a baseball. It's an Edgar Martinez Marriner's card that is signed by Edgar Martinez himself.

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[00:09:28] So, yeah, I'm a big fan of Casey Venus. And I have a little young boy in my life who is obsessed with baseball and he loves the Mariners . It's all he thinks about baseball, basketball, baseball, basketball, he's obsessed.

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[00:10:04] I'm that guy who does not play video games, but still reads video game magazines. Just to look at the new techniques. You know, I'm that guy, I'm a contradiction. I don't mean anything against anybody who loves sports. I grew up playing sports. I value sports very much, but as far as time, I'm willing to invest in sports today.

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[00:10:36] Um, my kids are great, but anyway, yeah, so don't get it twisted. I'm not trying to fuck with your sports. I love sports are great, but I don't want to watch them. And I don't want to look up second hand accounts of what happened during their games, just so I can tell it to you. You just watch the games. I love you anyway.

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[00:10:55] I'm gonna get through this intro and get you to the show because it's actually really good. And I want you to hear it. [00:11:00] So what's. Oh, I better know a bias. If he caught the show last week, we skip this segment because I just didn't have time for it, but I did do it. So we're going to throw it in there this week bias of the week, this week is the law of triviality.

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[00:11:38] They spent most of their time on the discussions about relatively minor, but easy to grasp issues, such as what materials to use for the staff bicycle shed while neglecting the proposed design of the plant itself, which is far more. And a far more difficult and complex task. We humans have a tendency to do this autumn.

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[00:12:13] And then you're out of time and you have to just throw together your designs for a nuclear power plant. And before you know it, you have a Fukushima disaster on your hands. Where can we see this happening? First thing that comes to my mind is the mask debate,

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[00:12:45] And that information is readily apparent. To those who want it, but most people do not seek it out. If you're listening to this right now, and you have criticized somebody for their choices to either wear or not wear a mask, I want you to honestly, check yourself. Have you done that? [00:13:00] Yes or no. Okay.

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[00:13:19] I'm asking you questions, right? I just want us all to be self-aware. That's why I'm doing this bias thing. Biases are real. There's something that we all deal with. If we're all thinking about it, and we're all aware of our own biases, it's going to have a better effect overall as a society. Okay. I don't know this mask thing though.

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[00:13:54] I'm sure you guys remember that. But we later found out, he only said that to prevent the toilet paper [00:14:00] mobs from buying out all the supplies for their personal stockpiles while doctors and nurses are out here, facially raw dog in it. I get that. That makes total sense. It was a dumb fucking move, but it makes.

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[00:14:34] And then there's another group of people who are going to believe everything they say, no matter what. And both of those groups are going to fight. This battle has been raging for years now. And it's trivial. It's trivial as hell. Guys. We don't need to worry about this all that much. We've got bigger fish to fry.

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[00:15:10] Anything that made them feel like they were taking appropriate actions and doing. The only problem with that is that not everyone agreed on what the right thing was and chaos ensued. That's the bike shed effect. I don't know how do we take this information and leverage it to improve our lives? I noticed it in my own life all the time, especially with this podcast, I'll find myself trying to get an episode out.

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[00:15:50] And it will relieve some of that pressure. I feel mounting in my head that says you need to be working dickhead. And so now I'm working, but I'm still not actually accomplishing my work. [00:16:00] Take that for what you will. It's it's useful information to me, but it may not be useful to you. We're going to move on.

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[00:19:47] So this week we are celebrating. You know, there are many different types of love and psychologists have tried for centuries to categorize and describe them. The commercialized Hollywood version of love is like a [00:20:00] drug. It invades your mind takes over and thrusts you in this direction or that this type of love is very real and it's wonderful in its own.

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[00:20:30] In other words, it's effortless, but there is another type of love. This other type of love is less exciting. It's more work, but without it, the world would cease to function. This is the love that forgoes sleep night after night so that someone else can get their much needed. This type of love, doesn't keep track of what it has done or what it deserves in repayment.

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[00:21:17] My own mom had plenty of it. I grew up feeling like a very loved little boy and I married a woman who is just oozing with mom. Love my guest. Today is a kindergarten teacher. She's a mom, she's a coach, a sister, a friend, a podcasters wife. And she's the best partner I could ever ask for. She dives into every day of her life, heart first as if she's unaware, there's any other way.

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[00:22:03] She's a person who craves order yet. She married someone with none of it. She chose a career that is notoriously. She's a kindergarten teacher for Christ's sake. It's almost as if she has accepted her role in this life is to bring love and order to places where it's needed most. She's my partner in life, my most trusted confidant and advisor.

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MAIN

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[00:00:14] I just traded him. Is that one goes better with the color scheme out of here near legs. He's perfectly capable of swapping. Corns. Is Holly Hawkin coming on this show? I'm so excited for that one. I'm not sure what now. Okay. She posted something like can't wait to schedule. And I was like, wait, what is she?

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[00:00:51] She was like, Hey, I'm sorry, I haven't booked one yet, but she's fascinating. And she has a point of view and I don't think she cares if people agree with her point of [00:01:00] view, but she has one, which is awesome. And it's awesome. Lots of people like that and just got to hope that some of them are right.

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[00:01:32] These things are these. I hate these headphone courts. I can't handle that. That's better. It seriously will drive me nuts if it's like rubbing the whole time and I can hear it. Yeah. Crazy. We'll just take that clip and add that to my piece called Jeff on the spectrum. No. Um, speaking of which though, talk to somebody today, who's a autism person [00:02:00] about coming on the show and she said that she was thinking about it.

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[00:02:22] I've got a hot tip for you guys on a new show. It is called as we see it. And it's on Amazon prime. It's a great show. It's about three 20 somethings. They are all three autistic and they live together and it's just about their lives about trying to navigate this world. And it's really fantasy. One of the three stars is Rick Glassman.

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[00:03:05] And the spectrum is so wide that I have so many cases. I don't know much about it. And I do, I do find it pretty interesting. It's just some of the autistic kids in my classroom. I have been academically perfectly fine with just some like social oddities or like irregular behaviors, but like don't need academic support all the way down to like someone who's so much on sensory overload that they can't be in our regular gen ed classroom with a group of their peers.

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[00:04:04] Would he also on the flip side of that say things that were brutally honest without thinking about it. That could be hurtful, but this was like a really genuinely nice boy. So it didn't happen that way. It didn't really happen much. That's cool. Yeah. So it was just beautiful. It was like, he just missed all like the cynicism of life.

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[00:04:47] These people don't seem that much different than mine. Cause I, I wasn't. And then, uh, today when I was driving home from work, I was thinking about that show. I was like, [00:05:00] what if all the times where I'm like, oh, I'm such a good judge of what other people are thinking. Not only am I wrong, but everybody knows I'm wrong and they let me do it as like this cute.

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[00:05:52] Everybody's just kind of like, yep. That's it. That's what Jeff does. Well, I actually have another take on that. So I was [00:06:00] listening to the human lab today and he talked about the introversion extroversion dichotomy or perceived dichotomy and how it's often misperceived, because people want to think about it.

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[00:06:30] Your set point is going to be where your set point is. And so introverts, they get higher dopamine response from limited social interactions. They need a lot less, and then they go back. They still need it, but they don't need nearly as much. So, and I so related to that, cause I'm like sometimes I just need to like go to the mini Mart and get a bottle of water so I can interact with the human and then back to the cave.

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[00:07:16] You start to dislike the social more. And that's, that's like more of a traditional view of what people talk about with the introverts. But that's really not the same thing because that's kind of an unhealthy situation. What was it that I, I sent you a text message and said, let's talk about this. When you come in.

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[00:08:01] Your set point and you adjust to a new, like, if you get a new apartment right at first, you love it. It's awesome. Two weeks ago. It's less awesome. And six months later, it's just your pardon there, all this. And then remember we talked about this other side of it, where like, you hear mom, mom, mom, and you want to go, whoa.

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[00:08:56] So I don't know what, for me personally, if that's chicken or the egg, because [00:09:00] I do like being alone a lot and I need a certain amount of alone time to feel normal. I don't know where that co. I was that way before, so I would seek that out or I, or I just accommodated to that level, but you know what I mean, Olam and tell you what my understanding of introvert extrovert has been.

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[00:09:41] And, um, almost like a, like a high from other people, but an introvert will maybe want the same engagement, but it leaves them feeling very drained. That feels very true to me too. Uh that's that's kinda how I've always thought of it also. [00:10:00] So this whole podcast was about connection and like the connection and attachment circuits in your.

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[00:10:24] It's pretty cool. And, uh, the same circuit that's used for child, parent bonding, primary caregiver bonding, like the mother infant relationship, same circuit is used for bonding with other people like friends and, um, spouses and you know, all those and yeah. What was I going to say? I lost track of it.

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[00:11:22] Did you learn a lot from the process? Was, did it, did it prepare you better for being a teacher? I spent a lot of time not knowing what was being asked of me. Um, if I'm completely honest, I found it a little bit confused. That said seemed pretty stressful. I started the process teaching middle school English, and I finished teaching kindergarten.

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[00:12:22] And to put that into perspective, my year that I pass there were like 2034 candidates that actually passed. So it's pretty tough. Um, and there's a test at like a component test and, um, that's pretty heavily weighted. And then another like, um, written component that has to do with like your individual students and your teachers and their work samples from students.

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[00:13:11] I watched you do it. I know it was a lot of work. Does it feel pretty good to be done? It feels really good. I bet. Yeah. So when, when do you have to do another round of that hair? So I'm like, don't have to touch anything for five years. And what that also means is I don't have to do any continuing education, which is an annual requirement of teachers for their certificates.

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[00:13:53] You could learn to snowboard anyway, want to learn how to snowboard or we could pick up and go to Utah. And, [00:14:00] um, I wouldn't have to get credentialed in that state because I'm national board certified so I can teach anywhere. So it's a universal license. It's a universal license to teach. That is pretty cool.

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[00:14:36] But also, like I have mentors in education who are national board certified and just people that I looked up to and always thought were just so much better than me. Yeah. And now I just feel like I'm in their ranks, like I'm in the ranks of Mickey Fraisse and Kelly Jacobson and like happy Gilmore. Yes.

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[00:15:28] So you'll have to look on Facebook. Cause I don't have internet I'm on Facebook. That's what I'm talking about. I don't see it though. I tagged you in it. I don't see that. Okay. Look at my profile. There we go. No, not that it's like the last thing I did. Yeah. Okay. Facebook is so convoluted. I'm not a fan of Facebook.

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[00:16:14] And my, one of my good friends talked about you for years. So I basically, I had a, had a model of you in my mind already. I just had. Connected it to your physiological body, but I knew who you were, even though we had never had a car. I never talked about you, but I heard other people talk about you. You know, it's weird.

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[00:16:59] Wow. I feel [00:17:00] so much older than that. I was so much cooler at 33 than you are, right? Every age who was interested first. Yeah, it was me. I definitely didn't see you as a romantic conquest right away, because you just, you. My friend's cousin. You were older than me. You were had two kids. You had just barely started walking again.

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[00:17:59] Yeah. [00:18:00] Um, but yeah, cause I remember texting with you about track, but still. Enjoying it a little too much. I was ex I was very, very into this exciting new prospect of coaching track. All of a sudden, I remember like coming around the corner and being like, oh, there he is at Hilltop. Just sort of surrounded by students and looking down.

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[00:18:50] Yeah. I didn't even think of it as flirting. I wasn't like hitting on you. I was flirting with you, but I wasn't hitting on you. I was just getting to know you and I realized, oh, there's a person I can play with and have fun. [00:19:00] So that's what I was doing. I wasn't, I wasn't. I remember like, actually we were texting and I needed to get in the shower.

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[00:19:23] Realm of possibility. It was like, ah, it's all right. I'm just going to extract what energy I can from our relationship as a, as a co middle school track coach. That's why when we ended up at that holiday friend's concert and I was like, oh my gosh, he likes me. I felt so silly for just being so casual around you, like crawling around on the wrestling mat, like dressed as a hippie for spirit week.

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[00:20:10] And again, later several months after. Um, but you happened to catch me on a good swing and it just really lucked. I lucked out and, um, it just. Boom from that moment on the whole rest of my life was different. Our life was different. It's crazy to think about that. So what did I write? I wrote that. I think you were interested first.

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[00:20:51] Who said, I love you first. I do know this one. Yeah. You said the right answer. I remember that [00:21:00] moment. Well, I shouted, I love you over really loud music in a bar and I was embarrassed the next day. So we decided to forget that happened. I didn't, he said the first real. I love you that one. I actually don't remember.

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[00:21:47] Yeah. And then you try to tell me that you're falling in love with me and I wouldn't let you, because we had been having beers. And I was like, I don't want you to regret this. It's too early. [00:22:00] Don't say it. And then I don't know, fast forward, just probably a couple of weeks. And we had gone out after the wine festival and I was just like, yeah.

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[00:22:35] And you're like, I love you. And I was like, okay, I love you too. I remember at the bar trying, like I was 99% sure. I heard you, but it was so loud in there. And honestly, I can't understand what people are saying in that situation. So my brain just gets frazzled and I was just like, I would be so embarrassed if I thought she said, I love you.

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[00:23:18] She won't be able to hide it. And yet it's really true. Yeah. Okay. What's next? Um, very good question. Who's the most impatient you the answer is you? No, I don't think so. I was pretty annoyed. When you needed to stop and pick up your contacts today, it's like, oh, well I was expecting that. We'd be home around the same time.

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[00:24:07] But I last heard all animal doctor, but if she's practicing on puppets, perfect. That's right. She did say animal doctor. She's a, she got a stethoscope and everything. Okay. I got a picture today from my mom. My dad's recovering from knee surgery and his feet are splayed out in front of him. And he's got these toddler socks, just hanging over his big toe and his second toe, uh, millions dressing him in her own socks.

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[00:24:58] Okay. In some moments I can be [00:25:00] much more impatient than him. I was thinking or when you're hungry, when you just need food or we have a dinner reservation in an hour and you still have to stop right at burger, I'm going to eat now. I like to pregame for a nice fancy place. That's and that's no joke. And I highly recommend it for other people who have eating disorders.

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[00:25:36] That's my strategy. You have a very high end, um, dinner planned, you know, around the San Juan islands in one hour. It's a great idea to swing into just like a sleazy dive bar and, you know, get the world's best burger and definitely dying in. But sometimes [00:26:00] it really saves the day. Cause I got leaving a good dinner that you pay like 200 bucks for it.

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[00:26:24] So I'm not even going to talk about it. Nevermind. I'm cutting all this out. Um, Hey, thought we ate in a closet, but it was fine. It's worse than. I could have fit in there with you. If it's a closet, I had to sit out in the fucking breezeway with just strangers walking, brushing up against me walking. I was in their way.

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[00:27:05] But I said, yes, they offered it. And I said, yes, because I was standing in the hallway waiting for a table and I was uncomfortable. I was like, yeah, God. Yes, anything. Hey, we could ask to move to the bar would be worse. I can't then I wouldn't even be able to hear you what you were saying. Cause at least I could hear you at this place, like from behind you were protected.

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[00:27:38] happy?

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[00:28:03] Yeah. But we did end up having sex after that. So that's okay. It ended up a great actually, if I recall. Yeah. Uh, who's the loudest, um, because we were just talking about sex. I'm pictured sex for that, but I know it's not what it means. And you said neither of us are. He's more sensitive to noise though.

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[00:28:52] Yeah. And, um, and then I can't hear anything it's like when you're a singer and you put your finger, you know, on [00:29:00] the lobe of your ear and push in, so you can hear your own voice better. I always thought they just did that to look bad-ass well, yeah, it works. Yeah, it does. Uh, who's the most stubborn. Oh, we talked about this one earlier.

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[00:29:36] In some ways we really are the, is one of them though, but not every way. We're very compatible. It's not just similar. Like we're not the same person, no far from that. It's it just works. I that's another part of that bonding podcast today. He talked about that. As far as building connections, you don't have to agree on things.

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[00:30:14] Like even when we do disagree on something, which is pretty. We can talk about it and usually a graded. Disagree. You have taught me that though. Yeah. Um, just that like leading with love.

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[00:31:01] That's so even when I'm just like, oh, he's infuriating. I'm not like, oh fuck him. I'm leaving, you know, forever. I'm just annoyed with you. But I don't actually like feel hatred because I love you. And I know that you love me. I do. I do. And I same, same here. I'm not planning my out, which sadly I've done in past relationships or at least imagine them.

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[00:31:50] I just want to say they've never lasted 20 days. No. And I'm not saying that this even happens. I'm just saying, have you ever had those thoughts? [00:32:00] Um, cause that's about as bad as I go. I don't, I mean, I don't, the ice out is not my move, but I do plan like my, uh, my fantasies about when we're fighting like that, the things that play out in your head, they're never very bad.

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[00:32:25] I don't give a fuck. Like it's not nearly as upsetting. Okay. That's good. No, I never have planned a 30 day ice out or like a lack of sex, but, um, yeah, definitely just like, I'm not going to speak to him for a bit. And then sometimes I don't realize it until you are like, you have not made eye contact with me all day that I'm like, oh, yep.

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[00:33:14] It's just like, okay, we're good now. We're good. Now mooch Smith just, uh, I am to me. Oh, lucky. Once I know when his appointment for the booking is cool. I'll just send it to him. Hey guys, going to talk about like the Wako versus nasal sports. Um, no, I'm going to, I'm going to ask him some tough questions.

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[00:34:07] Yeah, that'd be great. Yeah. Okay. Chocolates. Uh, I'm going to give him the option to change that. If he wants it, be such a funny moment to, you know, like tell your wife you're not available for Valentine's day because you booked yourself a podcast. You better not do that. We'll probably be sitting in a gym or something, but, um, a podcast isn't going to fly.

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[00:34:55] But it turns out he was right. So thank you.[00:35:00]

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[00:35:22] Who's that guy? Johnny. Tyler. He's a real Johnny tight lips. He'd make a great politician. Yeah.

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[00:36:00] Fucking Facebook. It's not that you fall asleep first every time, but 90% of the time, 89, what would you say? 90. Okay. Most of the time. Yeah. Vast majority. Yeah. And I don't know if I've ever slept in later than you in the morning. Uh, this question is coming. I think, no, if there's a question about who's a better morning versus than you in that one too.

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[00:36:48] Uh, okay.

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[00:37:26] It's like, I want that dopamine rush. I want something to get me a little bit. A little bit, you know, I think you're more ambitious about cooking too. Oh, for sure. I'm like, I don't want to make that it's gonna hurt. I'd have to wash the food presser, sir. And it'll be such a mess and you're like, I will roast all the vegetables.

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[00:38:00] that is so true. I do, I do spray it off a bit or no, actually I don't because I did once and it's splattered salsa all over the backsplash and I didn't like the way that looked for me to handle it. Right. I just soak them and I'm like, I won't let it stick on there. That's, that'd be rude

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[00:38:49] It's good day when I'm not though, like when we both wake up and it's like seven or 8:00 AM like, oh my God, I feel amazing. Yeah. People do this every day. Kids. I [00:39:00] took a COVID test because I just felt so tired. And then I said, but I'm, I'm not sick. I'm just so tired. Why do you think I'm so tired? She goes, because I wake you up in the night.

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[00:39:33] Did you notice? No, I did it. Bobby got right up in there. I have, I haven't been sleeping pretty good lately. Okay, good. Okay. Who's better morning person. That's me for sure. Better driver. So we talked about this one earlier, too. It depends. So I I'm better as a, in technical skills, but you are definitely better in driving record safety percentage.

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[00:40:20] Every time we go anywhere together, you drive. But that's because of my anxiety. Not because I'm a better driver. I think we're just talking about this with Colton. And he said something about like, whether he or Hannah would drive, this was new year's Eve. And I was like, oh, we don't have that problem because anytime we go anywhere Jeff has to drive.

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[00:40:59] I was like, [00:41:00] make him stress. Like that's how I feel now. And just relax. And he's just going to like drive me to my friend's house and Kingston. Oh, I'm happy to do it. I like driving. I love it. Actually. I created it. Take me to Mount hood so I can ski. And you got me off in front of the resort and pick me back.

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[00:41:42] I should knock on something. Where were you going? Where were you? What were your hurry? I was leaving. She not going to work at the bank of the Pacific. So sometime after I graduated from Western Oregon and when, probably like, oh seven was the last time I got a speeding ticket. I just read your answer to that [00:42:00] question.

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[00:42:21] I'm not sure. And you have stories that are more like, I, well, you drove that van until water and like ruined a vehicle. Well, I started my driving life. The first many, many vehicles were barely running. And so, yeah, it was, uh, it was a bit hectic. It was a little hit or miss getting places, but I, you know, it taught me how to work on cars and it taught me how to walk far two things.

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[00:43:06] It means zero to me. And I see the look on other people's face when they lose it hurts. It doesn't hurt me at all to lose, which is probably. Because I lose often, I am noticing as we're becoming fans of the children, like it hurts both of them or like even after when you're like great game and I'm just like, that was not a great game.

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[00:43:48] That's a game. You got it backwards. This is the serious part. Like, yeah. I don't know. I just, I just think sports are. They've gotta be fun [00:44:00] or nothing because what the fuck else are they for? I don't think you're wrong. I'm just saying that is like just a part of me that rears its ugly head from time to time.

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[00:44:39] So I don't feel so scrambled when I try to talk and she's like trying to make me do math. I couldn't believe it. She was kicking my ass. She got a Turkey and then a triple night. Two of them. Two of them, the Turkey is three bulls eyes in a row, which is a very, but also, I just want to say I am very talented when it comes to [00:45:00] party games.

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[00:45:29] I have a really special talent and you play darts on a regular basis. You come in here and you throw the darts. How often would you say that? I just said I don't play like in a league or anything. Oh, that would be very fun. How often do you throw darts at that dartboard? Every day. Okay. Well, I have probably not done that since Christmas time, five minutes, every 24 hours.

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[00:46:12] I don't understand. And I always think I'm going to be good. I always think I'm going to be good. And I even play at cool, like, yeah, I'll play it. And you're all cocky. Cause you're like, I'm really good at these, these kinds of games. And I was like, I bet you are. Yeah. And then I suck. I I'm like, and I'm then I'm glad I played it.

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[00:46:48] Then you were like running and lifting weights and you have like all these like big muscles and ads. You were just like at the peak, right? 27. Yeah. That's been down [00:47:00] planking, Calvin, just like pat, pat, speaking of physical specimens, if you follow in Calvin on, he is enormous jacked and enormous. He's putting a lot of work.

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[00:47:30] Speaking of which I've been reaching out to a couple of people over the internet for new guests and got a few responses back today. I got a person who does, um, we're going to do one on neuroscience. The she's like, uh, seems kind of motivational speaker. I'm not sure exactly what her job is, but it's, it has to do with using neuroscience to tell people how to make better life choices.

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[00:48:18] All right. Let's get back to the list. Okay. Who is the funniest? Well, you said me. I appreciate. You said he makes me laugh. Cry sometimes. Oh, you said regularly. I just read sometimes. I've no, self-esteem you laugh. Cry often. You made me laugh. Cry last night. I don't even remember what we were laughing about, but you've made me laugh really hard.

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[00:48:58] So you're not going to offend [00:49:00] me quickly. I grew up in a fishermen house. Like I know how to take an off color joke. Yeah. You have lots of tolerance because they lot of misses. Yeah. I'm not going to like get angry and stomp off or I'm not going to cancel you. It's good too. Cause I'll try stuff. Just test the waters and you're very, very good about telling me no.

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[00:49:46] Yeah. They're all funny people. Oh, who is more social? Definitely. You, you wrote definitely me. I'm with people all day. Yeah. We already talked about this a little bit, but yeah, you are definitely more social. Your social need is higher and [00:50:00] your social output. You're you're able to put out a lot more. I know social need though is so much less than it used.

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[00:50:29] That's not to say those relationships aren't important, but, um, yeah, they are. They're definitely important. And it's not even to say that they're gone. They're just not there. Oh, I just need more downtime and just peaceful moments than I used to. Um, I don't feel happy when it's go, go, go. And I used to feel really charged by that.

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[00:51:08] Yeah. I feel like there's a difference there because if it's your projects, your there's this like sense of accomplishment or like excitement. Um, yeah, sometimes I F I feel myself over overextending myself almost in a, in a habitual way to where I'm like, I, I look for that feedback where I'm like, I want to feel that just to where I'm revved up and it's a reward sensors.

[: 00:51:37

[00:52:00] On antidepressants, the items on adult mean agonist drug. It worked pretty good, but I stopped using it eventually. Dopamine. Yeah. Whereas like a Zoloft boost, your serotonin and the Prozac to most of the, a lot of the popular ones are serotonin, which is like the chemicals associated with feeling good about the way things are now, that what you have around you and all that.

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[00:52:44] I'll just be like, huh? I can't think of one single thing I want to do. Are you thinking like, if this then I'll be okay, are you able to think forward? Whether it's like when I have more money, I'll be happier when I have a [00:53:00] different job, I'll be happier when we get to the end of this week or when I'm done with this task, I'll feel better or is it just like, um, there's no light at the end of the tunnel?

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[00:53:33] And a lot of the time the work has in, in time-wise, it takes way more time in work to get the rewards, which are short. And so I can accept all of that. So I think of it like that, and everything is temporary. No matter what I was just talking with Amelia about this. While we were walking at the park the other day, the good feelings, the bad feelings, every single one of them is going to end.

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[00:54:12] And then before I know it I'm filled back up again and I don't think about it, but I think it has a lot to do with dopamine. And that's why I love caffeine so much. I want to drink caffeine even when I'm not at all. And that's why I'm fixated on food. Just I like dopamine and it's something that I don't really spend a lot of time questioning.

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[00:54:54] That's really not all you want, even though it feels like that's what you want. You really want them to be healthy. [00:55:00] You want them to be balanced and fulfilled. And self-actualized like as a parent to a kid in the context we were discussing, but happiness is seen as this goal when really it's, it's not, it's never cause, cause we're not static creatures.

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[00:55:29] You can do Jeff bad analogy, but you know what I mean? It's where you're balancing. You can't, you can't stay in one place. You can't be neutral on a moving train. Like it's, it's gonna move. So we do these SEL checks at school SEL stands for social emotional learning. We have lots of goals around that because, um, well it's part of the curriculum for one, but also we want to build happy.

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[00:56:18] So we're trying to check in on them and it's good. We have a teenager who at middle school checked in meth. That's how we felt that day meth. That's a great answer. It's very descriptive. And he got pulled out of class to go to the solutions room at his school so that someone could ask him why he was met.

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[00:56:58] And [00:57:00] he missed out on his, on time to work on his math. He's a very productive child. And why is it bad to write. And I don't think it's bad. Yeah. It's not bad. Um, sometimes you just feel mess. So the conversation is why did you feel like that? Well, there was a gillnet opener. He didn't want to be at school.

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[00:57:45] So now I'm just gonna write, I'm fine. When I do these same texts in my classroom. And so I'm very aware of like, if a kid marked sad or angry, I might be like, Hey, what's going on before you send them? How are you doing? But [00:58:00] we don't even do that at primary. It's like the teeth, but it's just like, look them in the eyes like, Hey, are you okay?

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[00:58:32] It's it's very powerful to be okay. Being just okay. That's something that I don't practice enough. I blame it on other people in my own head. I'm like, oh, I gotta be up for, for them. So I'm not an asshole because nobody's gonna wanna hang out with an asshole, but it's not other people's fault at all. So listening to what you're describing about almost like the lack of dopamine just reminds me of like your [00:59:00] valley.

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[00:59:18] Yeah. I'll let you know. Most of the time that will work out. Like people will be understanding because most people don't admit. Or even to themselves, a lot of the time it takes us some self-awareness to know that you're in a valley and not to just think that everybody's being real dicks lately or something, or nobody's taking care of their own shit lately, or, you know, people putting too much pressure on you lately, all these things.

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[01:00:04] We address it. Like with me, it's just, I try to just be very matter of fact about it and not get emotional about it so that the kids don't make it feel like it's punishment, because I want them to be able to do it on their own without me having to fuck with it and just have it happen so far, my strategy has failed drastically and you will just do it for them for way too long.

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[01:00:47] I think that's true. I mean also we've been in construction for a year that enforces that I know we both have things like, um, you would like me to pick up my shoes and I would [01:01:00] like you not to leave, watered up napkins, but yeah, just those little things. And I think we probably like both have those things and I just like to crumble.

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[01:01:30] My give her heart, I find it pretty embarrassing. When people come to the house or in my car, I will, I will admit my truck has smelled so bad since the mountain trip. I have no idea what's under the seat or like, there's gotta be something dead in there. Or some food ask the girls soar has been in there too, but he doesn't speak.

[: 01:01:48

[01:02:03] She loves me so much, but just stuff is impeccable. Their car, their house. You're going to let me walk in there. Should I just like strep before I come into this? What was it down first? Or should I just take your shoes off? Yeah, there's just, there's no judgment, but you're looking around of just like, you're better than me.

[: 01:02:28

[01:02:53] Yeah. Please show me the new gadgets that came in the mail today. I love gadgets. I really do. [01:03:00] I'm obsessed with technology and it's expensive. I am a saver. Yeah, I know. Thank God you've made me way better. I would have no retirement. If it weren't for you, you taught me how to retire. Like I didn't even, I'd never even thought about it.

[: 01:03:16

[01:03:34] Even though I got annual grafts sent to my mailbox that showed me exactly how much I would have by the time I would retire. And it was going to be far from enough. And it would tell me how much far from enough. And I was like, oh shit. And I still get those. And it's still way below. But I have, now I have other stuff that you told me about and it's going to fill those gaps.

[: 01:03:55

[01:04:19] Where did you put all of the salt lamps? There's one upstairs, one salt lamp. I sent the rest back. Once I realized what size I wanted. There's not one in your office? No. Oh, I bought two salt lamps, one big one, one small. Okay. I sent the big one back. Really? Yeah, it was too big. Did you know that they don't resell 90% of the stuff people send back to Amazon?

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[01:04:57] People that didn't want them. Yeah. [01:05:00] Um, that the first prime, yeah. I'll, I'll tell you the first prime week, the first time they did, Hey, it's prime week, like the black Friday of Amazon prime. It did trigger a small manic episode. Okay. It was like, the bargains were just unreal. It was like never seen such bargains.

[: 01:05:19

[01:05:42] It is a squirt gun. You bought a squirt gun. That's where guns that worked better. You were into that rechargeable. I've been into battery technology for years, I've been watching the market. I thought it was time and I was early, early. [01:06:00] Oh, I bet they're good. Now, though, we should get one next time.

[: 01:06:01

[01:06:23] It's not going to happen. You're going to be like, oh, I really need to buy it. Drive it, not buy it and drive it. I'm going to have to drive it. Yeah. I will always have the oldest outdated vehicle, which is so strange because I had like the nice car. When we started dating. You still do. It's the same car.

[: 01:06:51

[01:07:12] I thought it was a Jeep Cherokee. Okay. Uh, but it's, it's like the Jeep Cherokees, little cousin. It's a compass. Yeah. So anyone's curious has a Mitsubishi engine. It's fine. It's not my, it's not the love of my life. It's that? The little Debbie line version of like, of the. But it is paid off. I have no car payment, all wheel drive.

[: 01:07:35

[01:07:59] Um, I'm not [01:08:00] even sure we should sell it. Part of me that wants to hold on to it. I a really good car for a new driver. Right. But then I know our first driver, uh, will want to truck and he'll want a truck that can probably tow or how, and he will have no injuries. Yeah. Our next driver will be two years after that.

[: 01:08:18

[01:08:41] what? I like that kid. I just asked somebody. You can't give my car away. Well, Dre, I'm fine with you. Just like we could give the car to a teenager that needs it, but we have to make sure I have something to drive in the meantime. Yeah. Obviously I'm just going to Miller will drive you around. [01:09:00] Oh my gosh. It just become your Butler.

[: 01:09:02

[01:09:29] Good year. Good year. We have, um, a lot of, um, same experiences or similar experiences, right? From our upbringing. We grew up in the same area. We went to the same school. We knew a lot of the same people. We were friends with a lot of the same families. Yeah, that's true. That was, that made it real. Right. So we both grew up in the Hawkins Lynn's house and the Nick [01:10:00] Hawkins households shadow Nick.

[: 01:10:01

[01:10:25] Well, w I'm curious that connection too, because, so just because of football, um, well only make a different connection. That's, doesn't take away from football, but I got to take that part out. I can't, I can't say that. I don't know if he wants me to say that anyway, go on. But you can take this part out too, but we, we, we just steer away out of pedophiles.

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[01:11:18] So, um, Jeff has just pulled out a yearbook. Yes, it is from 2002, which was my first year at the high school as a seventh grader. Barely missed yet. And I was in college. Yeah. Where were you when you found out about the tower? I was in bend Oregon Redmond at Eagle crest. Actually we went there on vacation.

[: 01:11:45

[01:12:17] I've seen that same thing. Yeah, that's cool. Um, which makes me just not trust what I think I know because I can picture it easily, but I know where I was that there's no question to that. And then the, I tried to call home and this is like back when cell phones were not spectacular and I just kept getting an error because all of the lines were full and I was like panicking and trying to talk myself through, like the terrorists are not coming for like long beach Washington.

[: 01:12:45

[01:13:11] Everything felt different. So that's been my whole adult life. That's interesting too, because just like specifically about meeting you 2007 was my graduation year. That's when the smartphone came out. And so that's also another major chapter in our, in our country. I mean, that sounds trivial still at this point, but it won't a hundred years from now that technological impact, I think is huge.

[: 01:13:36

[01:13:55] It's your first year book. Um, yeah, it's my very first one. [01:14:00] Curious if that started with you or if that was in, um, any of my ear books. It's not something I remember. I think it's, it was probably, well, maybe not, actually. I don't know. Yeah. So it starts out pretty September 11th, heavy. We got a three-page spread.

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[01:14:42] Very first picture Russian president Vladimir Putin and president Bush agreed to cut nuclear mission arsenals by nearly two thirds later, Boosh Bush. I called them Boosh, Boosh later, Boosh unilaterally pulls out of the 1972 anti-ballistic missile treaty to pursue a [01:15:00] missile defense system. Yeah, they're all hugged up real chummy.

[: 01:15:03

[01:15:26] You got some guys in, in some hazmat suits. What are they doing? Oh, Worlds world trade center waste. Oh, okay. Oh no. It's anthrax anthrax. That was going to be my guess. Okay. So that was 2001 that when people were sending the mysterious packages. Yeah. Okay. Like Unabomber 2.0, Americans face another form of terror.

[: 01:15:47

[01:16:08] I do remember that. I don't know that. I do say God plan. How did that plane come down? It was a structural failure of the planes tail assembly. The tail fell apart. Gosh, that's awful. Oh, After Houston energy, giant Enron collapses, thousands lose their life savings. And Ron was big and Ron was huge. I don't think the weight of that as a, how old was I?

[: 01:16:36

[01:17:02] Damn, damn. We were going to say the same thing. Go ahead before the whole, while I think I'm done way before all the Australia burned in 2020, you've given me one too many sips of wine and now I cannot speak. Oh, Okay. A combination PDAs and cellular phones take portable communication to the next level.

[: 01:17:27

[01:17:49] I remember blackberries. That's crazy. I wasn't super up on technology. My parents were Verizon people and Verizon didn't merge with apple for a [01:18:00] long time. Did they merge with apple? It used to be like the 80 and D people got apple products and the Verizon people like got LG. Um, and at first it was like the at and T people had like the cool Nokias and then I had this like sturdy, dependable, like actually nicer LG that wasn't trendy at all.

[: 01:18:22

[01:18:51] Oh, I could've told you that. Is it all only beauty in people that you want to have sex with? Or is it just like the beauty of the word? [01:19:00] All beauty it's separate from sexual attraction. For me, at least I really liked to look at beautiful things. Yeah. You know that I talk about it fucking constantly and it like shocks me when other people don't get it.

[: 01:19:15

[01:19:37] That that's so good. Yes. I don't even know why, but it did, but those things are like semi-regular. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I definitely do feel that though. Like I get such a rush from, from like all beauty. I like art because of that. And just like, I like the feeling of connection and even from like nature, flower or [01:20:00] sunset or a, all that.

[: 01:20:04

[01:20:25] Yeah. Here is a whole page of stuff that never caught on, on November 7th. The supersonic Concorde airplane flies for the first time, since July, 2000, when there was a crash that killed 113 people that did not start back up again, they kind of thought it would. Hmm. Oh, the camera pill allows doctors to examine the insides of a human intestine without surgery.

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[01:21:14] Apple releases the sleek new iPod, allowing users to store up to a thousand digital song files for on the go enjoyment. And it's the old, old iPod, the one with like the center circle, uh, with like a bumper around the edge. I had a little shuffle. The shuffle came out after this. I'm not sure. Oh, okay. Yeah.

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[01:21:54] So like six years later for me, but it probably wasn't brand new at the time [01:22:00] before the apple iPod, there was this company called creative labs, creative labs. They probably still exist. They make really good high-end electronics and they had this thing called a Zen. And it was exactly like the apple iPod, like what?

[: 01:22:15

[01:22:45] Took it off and tucked it in my mailbox and didn't lock the mailbox in the building that I was living in. Like I was just going to hide it and come back and get it. I don't know why I needed to just set it down, but I did. And when I came back, it was gone. [01:23:00] Someone stole it out of my mailbox. They would've told your mail too.

[: 01:23:03

[01:23:24] Well, it was like, I got it at the tail end of college. So more like, oh 4 0 5 and I definitely did not have an MP3 player before that. I got one in like 2003. I did, I don't want to, no one, I didn't have any apple products until I got that shuffle. I got an, a, an apple iPhone 3g in 2008. I think if that was this, whenever that came out.

[: 01:23:53

[01:24:15] You got all these like fancy new attachments. I'm going to start making videos about how to control weeds. I love it. It's going to be cool. Oh, this is cool. The world's first fully implantable artificial heart is given to 59 year old Robert tools. Sadly tools died shortly after that. Didn't catch on they're unrelated causes.

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[01:24:58] Um, you should, [01:25:00] we use that as the thumbnail for the episode. Okay. Um, so I just got to the pop culture section and we got in sync, Skechers, rollerskates. And, um, what was this Covergirl turns lips into works of art with lip art. The new fad comes complete with stencils, a freestyle tip brush and 26 shades for creating unique lip designs that look like you have some shit on your lip.

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[01:25:47] I always have thought catchers are cool. It's that? I feel like you would buy me Sketchers and then I would be like, oh, thank you. You have so nice of you. Very boring tasting sheets. [01:26:00] You don't like bright colors. You don't like crazy designs. You like, you'd never be caught dead in a pair of Yeezys. Yeezys.

[: 01:26:08

[01:26:30] Oh, we're still watching that. That's a great movie. Oh, a beautiful mind. I think that came out that that was kind of embellished. John Nash was maybe not such a nice guy, but can you blame him? He was schizophrenia. It's still a great film. Um, this is when they did the musical rendition of Buffy, the vampire Slayer, Lord of the rings.

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[01:27:11] Yes. And did not know the smash hit PlayStation two, all three of those. Those were, I mean, they were big at the time. GameCube never really took off still playing the Xbox and PlayStation. I shouldn't say the kids, a lot of men, your age are gaming it up. We started in 2001, Sony pictures, Warner brothers, universal, MGM, and paramount discuss the joint creation of movie fly.

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[01:28:01] Here's where it started. I have memories of going to blockbuster on Friday nights when I was in college, there was one right there in town you would like run into, this was not like the. Part of college where you're just like interested in like meeting people and going out and doing when you're trying to procrastinate from studying.

[: 01:28:22

[01:28:48] Those were my jams. Yeah. I was there all the time that we cause a lot of times we didn't have TV. The only time I was ever in blockbuster were my college years. But yeah, by the time I went to college, I was stealing movies off the internet. [01:29:00] Okay. Pirate bay. Limewire, all that stuff. I never did that. I did it briefly.

[: 01:29:05

[01:29:26] Yeah, we're just streaming everything. I saw a funny tweet the other day. I can't remember who said it, but he said, um, we should just bundle all the streaming services together into one package and we could call it cable because that's basically what we've gone backwards. And that's, I remember thinking that when they were talking about someday, we're going to have, it'll just be a bunch of different streaming services and I'd be like, well, that'd be less convenient than just having one streaming service that has everything on it.

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[01:30:11] Do we have peacock? We, I got peacocks so we could watch the Olympics and I never canceled it. So yeah, we have it probably. No, one's used it since the Olympics. Yeah. We have discovery. Plus we have Disney plus. Yeah. And we have Netflix, obviously we don't, we don't have the YouTube TV or any of the paid YouTube version now, but we have the free YouTube and now we have started paying for it, like the national, what is it?

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[01:30:55] Yeah. Yeah. That was big cook dinner. Yes. No [01:31:00] mom guilt. It's like I'm watching my kid play. I'm just going to go yell by the fireplace a little, make a lion. Yeah. I missed a lot of lands. Oh, oh. The highly anticipated Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's stone sets records for opening weekend. And first, second, and third place in single day box office ticket, total.

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[01:31:43] Oh yeah. I keep saying 2001, 2000. This, this was published in April, 2002. Okay. But it's about the, so it's what happened during that school year. So lado one early oh two. Yes. Okay. Just to clarify, [01:32:00] O brother where art thou receives a Grammy nomination for album soundtrack. I just listened to it the other day.

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[01:32:11] Um, yeah, it's weird. What I put on when I'm like hanging out with the kids because. I would never listen to it on my own. I barely even listen to music anymore on my own. I do a lot more listening to podcasts. I'm just working on my own podcast, but the it's always stuff from 10, 15 years ago that I remembered.

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[01:32:54] And that's usually when I'm just like, all right, now I don't care if you want to listen to puff the magic dragon [01:33:00] again or not. Sometimes I like it when you do that, that stay song that we listened to. The FBI really stuck with me and that's not something I would put on on my own, but it was so beautiful.

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[01:33:31] He shouldn't have done that. Well, I dunno. I think the Washington wizards would disagree because even though he was 38 years old, he filled arenas nationwide and propelled the previously dormant wizards to instant respectability with an over 500. But he does it pretty tired of that. That is awesome. No, I just, I, we grew a goatee for it, which I would say second to his Hitler stash.

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[01:34:16] I just, I want to retire with some financial, did he need, what does he like the owner of the team to, oh, I don't know that part. I'm not sure it doesn't say that in the yearbook. Um, but what it does say is that the 14 point underdog new England Patriots shock NFL viewers by kicking a dramatic last second field goal to upset the St.

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[01:35:00] Ah,

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[01:35:27] He is already started the Barry bonds thing. Okay, just kidding. Go ahead. Tell me about Barry bonds. I want to hear Tom Brady, get your, hear, hear your take on Tom Brady. He's just really handsome. And his wife is very beautiful and he's very athletic. They're meant to be famous. Um, just one of those like super humans, like he's a robot.

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[01:36:11] Rest in peace Kobe. Yeah. So Barry bonds, mark McGwire and Cal Ripken Jr. All retire that year in the first Saturday night. Women's us open tennis ACE, Venus Williams defeats her younger sister, Serena Williams, 6 2 6 4, gosh. And they're both still awesome. That's cool. That was what I was like. Oh my gosh. All this stuff.

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[01:36:53] Oh my gosh. That's so funny. Yeah. I've I was reading through these yesterday, all the signatures [01:37:00] and stuff. It's pretty fun. I like it except for the signed by a few pedophiles. So that sucks. But you just can't help yourself. Who's the VIP of there? Um, I don't, I just wrote via very important people section.

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[01:37:41] I was, I was practicing what's normal people. Sectioned, Jeff Nesbitt's yearbook. And then over here, you've actually just signed Jeff Nesbit. I think there might've just been a blank space at night. I see Alex Martin made the normal people side, so that's great. Paul play lock. There's like people, [01:38:00] you're still friends with a lot of them actually.

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[01:38:20] I think she, she changed her mind. Oh, look Laura. A whole bunch over here too. Once she write, she wrote, Hey, what's up. Am good. I hope you are to stay off drugs, but maybe you should, because then I would be smarter than you. That would be cool. Well, I hope you have a great summer. LOL, Laura. I think she was saying if I did drugs, I would be dumb.

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[01:38:54] It worked out for you. Here's one on the VIP section. It says, Hey [01:39:00] Dick, Wade don't get into any trouble this summer and no more dating bitches, Alex Mac 13. I'd never dated anyone in my life. Good friend, actually really nice. I had to say that I remember him doing that on purpose to make me look better.

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[01:39:49] I don't think you let either the chakras twins sign your yearbook. I did. I saw Cody in there. Oh, it doesn't matter. But there's Kyle Herzog, Kyla [01:40:00] Pratt. He's added me on Cody. Make normal people or Brian martini, you know, pagans. Hey, there's mooch says, Hey, I have hair on my butt. Ha ha ha.

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[01:40:26] He was like, what? 13, 14, 14. I did not have hair on my butt now. I have way too much. It's no happy medium. I can't even, I can't even get in that Headspace right now of like that insecure little boy who just desperately wanted body hair. Like that thought was in my head often. I was like, oh, it'd be so cool.

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[01:41:08] As soon as the first one did, that was when I wanted it. Okay. Sorry. I was a friend or two with a mustache. He's aware of it. He knows who has mustaches. It's weird when they all start. Girls don't do that. But I remember being super insecure about my curves. And now that seems like a funny thing. Notice when other girls got boobs, I got them first.

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[01:41:50] It was for me are absolutely absolutely sure. Sometimes either way. I, I was thinking it like two minutes before that happened, I was like, damn, you're looking good in those [01:42:00] jeans. And, um, yeah, it was ever like walking in a kind of a sexy way. It was, it was looking at, I do bizarre when I get cat called now, but it happens and shit happens Sawyer.

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[01:42:36] Very disappointed in you. And that was it. You don't even know who it was from. Yeah, I do. There's disappointed in you. I do. Well, they didn't like the way I ran. They thought I looked, they thought I looked terrible, then no, they thought I ran poorly. Oh, I'm like, well that's too much. No, I was hurt. It was when I had that pulled muscle in my calf and I was trying to walk a puppy.

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[01:43:25] I thought, I thought I had an idea of who you were and I realized I was wrong. I was just like, fuck, what did I do? Okay. Honestly, my thought was like, what did he misinterpret that I was trying to be funny or something. And, uh, you never know. And so I just put it away and force myself. No, I blocked. I just like partitioned it off.

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[01:44:06] I wonder why he's disappointed in me. Yeah. And then I was like, I better follow up on that. And then I saw that it was like, oh, it was a joke. And I replied and I was like, you know, whatever. But I just left him hanging all night on, on one of those like reach out like kind of risky jokes. Yeah. That was probably.

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[01:44:42] And I, and it does stress me out because I don't, if I, if I don't know, I don't know. Yeah. You just got to say something, even if it's just like, that's not cool. That's I don't think that's I texted Alyssa when she was at the game last night. I'm sorry. I was like reading over my shoulder as he does. And he's like, oh, she [01:45:00] left you one red.

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[01:45:21] We just hit two hours. Oh, I think we should probably wrap it up. Okay. So we'll, and also Valentine's days in two weeks do with it, what you want. We're gonna make a Valentine's day party and it comes out on Valentine's day. How about that? Yeah, that's perfect. I love you so much. Thank you so much for being an amazing partner.

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