Episode 20
Kicking It Old-School with Kolby Kirby
Kolby Kirby is one of the funniest people I have ever met. He never fails to make me laugh and this podcast is a really great snapshot of his personality. You get a taste of his humor, with a dash of humility, and a twist of homeless-living in a hammock on the beach in Hawaii while learning to make sushi. It's great.
We talk about many things, but most of the show revolves around the subject of finding joy in creative pursuits. We also talk about God, life, death, drugs, sex, music, and brainwashing, and so many other popular topics on Ramble by the River.
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Transcript
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[:[00:00:06] Kolby Kirby: [00:00:06] Oh yeah, dude, I just spend writing like poetry it's it's like, it's just a worry, but like been my go-to. But then I was like, finally like,
[:[00:00:16] Kolby Kirby: [00:00:16] Oh, like this works.
[:[00:00:27] I was,
[:[00:00:29] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:00:29] it's fine. But, uh, cause it will still come through. But as far as like, you won't get that richness of your voice. Not talking. I do that also, but yeah, the braces. Oh, but I'm getting them off next month.
[:[00:00:41] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:00:41] Yeah.
[:[00:00:42] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:00:42] First person I've told. A year and a half.
[:[00:00:45] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:00:45] December, beginning of December, 2019 is when I got him.
[:[00:00:50] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:00:50] Well, I am. I just feel bad about the whole pandemic thing. So I mean, when I got the brace, I was like, God, please, if you love me, just. Create a situation where [00:01:00] everybody has to wear a mask outside for the next two years. So I wouldn't have to experience any embarrassment so I can just get these braces done over with, and then, you know, then end it.
[:[00:01:18] Kolby Kirby: [00:01:18] Yeah. You must feel terrible, dude, dude, it's like weird. Cause like I can turn myself in you talk it's
[:[00:01:27] Kolby Kirby: [00:01:27] Yeah. It is like the,
[:[00:01:32] Kolby Kirby: [00:01:32] and I'm nervous too. And my heart's fluttering and
[:[00:01:35] You need to do things that make your heart flutter. Otherwise you'll forget. You're alive.
[:[00:01:43] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:01:43] that's a heart flutter for sure. Got it. Beaten out of your chest, dude. Are you, are you in the market?
[:[00:01:58] Uh, [00:02:00] like 60 year olds at the docks Tavern doc's Tavern. Yeah. Dude. And I all swipe. Right. You know, whatever, just being nice. And then they will, well too. And then you'd go down arm. Oh man. I'm not going to say just cause I feel like, well, you still need latest
[:[00:02:28] Kolby Kirby: [00:02:28] Yeah. We'd live in a small town. I don't want, yeah,
[:[00:02:34] Kolby Kirby: [00:02:34] How's that going? Oh, not very good at all, dude. I'm on a like at least I would say what, how old am I? Like 30 years dry spell the
[:[00:02:46] It's weird to say it. It's very strange. I feel like I'll always be like three years older than you. If I was to meet somebody your exact age today, I would feel like you were my age, but since it's you and [00:03:00] I met you when I was like, probably, well, I met you as wrong. Cause I met you when you were a little kid.
[:[00:03:16] Kolby Kirby: [00:03:16] Yeah. 33 or
[:[00:03:21] Kolby Kirby: [00:03:21] not, not at all. When you're younger, you're like, Oh my God, this guy is like, Yeah. Yeah.
[:[00:03:34] Kolby Kirby: [00:03:34] shit. Yeah. Um, I still do, but they
[:[00:03:52] Kolby Kirby: [00:03:52] I think I met my match with you though. I remember one time dude. And we were, it was football practice. And I said something to you and [00:04:00] Jeff Hilton, which is stupid. I don't know why I thought maybe I was fat. I knew I was faster than you, but I was, I said something and then you came right back and you drop like a book of knowledge on my head.
[:[00:04:17] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:04:17] just, I feel good about it. I feel good about it. Somebody had to put you in your place.
[:[00:04:24] I think I took, yeah, my mom was super upset with you.
[:[00:04:33] Kolby Kirby: [00:04:33] I knew something was up. God, dang it.
[:[00:04:48] Yeah. Some of the best comedy you can get that's gold. Yeah. When it's a tense moment and everybody in the room is, is like looking around like, Oh, you know, RJ broke [00:05:00] his neck. . And Kolby Kirby can be counted on for a zinger.
[:[00:05:12] And it's like, now, I think I have a heart now, you know, so it's like, I don't really, I try to not be as dickish, I guess
[:[00:05:22]Kolby Kirby: [00:05:22] Yeah. Oh yeah, for sure.
[:[00:05:46]Kolby Kirby: [00:05:46] So I have learned to use my like, you know, talk shit because yeah, I'm not going to beat him.
[:[00:06:09] That's what I'm going to do. I'm going to prove that they're not actually that tough because if they were they'd kicked my ass and they're a bunch of bitches.
[:[00:06:27] If I say this dude, I would always like push that. You know, I just like, I liked comedy math. Yeah. I just love like a good time dude. And like, like vibes like that. Or like, even if it's like, you know, it was a shit talking or whatever, you know, it's usually it wasn't like if it went too far and they were like, I'm her, I wouldn't just be like, like keep putting them down or
[:[00:06:49] But a little you might though, I kind of one more you do one more.
[:[00:06:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:06:59] that little [00:07:00] tagline. Yeah. Uh, that, that was one thing I, um, when I was thinking about trying my hand at comedy, I was like too scared to do it by myself.
[:[00:07:10] You were doing that, that the company all excited. Yeah. It ended
[:[00:07:32] Yeah. And I think. I dunno, something about that just made me feel a little bit more open and free to kind of be, be goofy. I think so I started writing shit and I realized really quickly, like, I mean, I've always written shit, but I started actually making an effort to write regularly. And even when I wasn't like, sometimes I just, I just can't help it.
[:[00:08:14] And, uh, the, the pandemic made it impossible to try stand up comedy, which would be fun and horrifying both I'm sure. Cause it I'm. I would just, um, I know I would bomb so bad and that would hurt so bad that I get that panicky feeling. All the time, just bombing in real life. When I say shit, that's not, you know, right.
[:[00:08:54] So, you know, I, you know that I was joking like that. I don't actually think that.
[:[00:09:17] Like, I don't know. And then I I've actually gotten in that and it's like, avalanche, like tumbled down into like. Me trying to make up for that last joke. And then it just is going downhill, you know, can't,
[:[00:09:39] Jeff, where I'm no more jokes at all. Oh man, I have one this still to this day. If I think about this, it makes me cringe. It's such a painful memory, but, um, w I was with my ex-wife and her family and they were all getting ready to go on a trip. They were like packing. I was not going on the trip. She has [00:10:00] this aunt.
[:[00:10:22] And she likes attention from men more. She wears. Dresses that kind of show off her body. I was just getting the picture that this is somebody who could afford, you know, some sexual humor. Yeah. Yeah. And, um, boy was I wrong? So we're, uh, I literally just met this woman five minutes before. And, and so we're all standing in the kitchen and they were discussing sleeping arrangements for when they go on this trip and I'm standing next to my ex.
[:[00:11:01] And , So I say, okay, so you and me we'll sleep together. And I said, Nancy, we just met. And, uh, it was just dead and that's, that's pretty, it was pretty mundane
[:[00:11:15] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:11:15] worse, but yeah, I could have came up with all kinds of stuff. Yeah, no, it was, it was, but that's my point, like context is everything you got to really know your audience because yeah.
[:[00:11:37] Kolby Kirby: [00:11:37] Yeah. Right. That's yeah. Just, yeah. So the batter's box. Yeah.
[:[00:11:47] I mean, there was probably five people there and everyone just silence. 10 seconds of heads be silent. That does
[:[00:12:00] [00:11:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:11:59] I, I, yeah. I mean,
[:[00:12:03] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:12:03] great and lovely. They are great.
[:[00:12:08] Kolby Kirby: [00:12:08] Yeah. It's like, that's that, that wouldn't be a type of I've. I kinda know what you're talking about and I'd be like vented around that. And it's like, these, aren't my group of people. This is my clan.
[:[00:12:22] Who's going to push it too far. Just a little bit, just so I know where my line is. Yeah. Cause I know I'm not going to push it up to
[:[00:12:32] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:12:32] bird dog. He's going to go scare up all the people who can't handle the harsh jokes. Yeah. And then I can come in and, you know, lay it out.
[:[00:12:43] Kolby Kirby: [00:12:43] did. Yeah. It was a super, yeah. That's hard
[:[00:13:14] It's like, what are you looking at? Look at you writing a poem. Yeah. What if your dad saw you?
[:[00:13:31] Like, you know, it was definitely something I have had. Push past though, you know, I love drawing flowers, like flowers, period. Yeah. Same here, dude. I, I, yeah. I like to do a garden every year, but yeah, I know what you mean. It's like what? But it's like, dude, when you see beauty and like, obviously you like, you know, I don't know, but like you really see the beauty of like a flower or something like that and it moves you and it's like, it's hard not to write about it.
[:[00:14:06] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:14:06] Please. Don't leave. Just stay
[:[00:14:10] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:14:10] We will recover from this. Yeah. But anyway. Yeah.
[:[00:14:18] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:14:18] one of those. I don't get it. You're not bumping
[:[00:14:20] Kolby Kirby: [00:14:20] mic. Well, I'll start doing that so I can get you
[:[00:14:26] Yeah. Nothing but luxury here, man. We got my microfiber cloth. As far as the eye could see. What are the use? Those are business cards. I, sorry, I'm over there for the guests to take. Oh, that's awesome. Dude. Scan that little thing with your phone and you'll take you right to the podcast. Oh really?
[:[00:14:43] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:14:43] Yeah. Technology these days. Isn't unreal. Marketing has been tricky just to know where to go. Like there's so many avenues you could take when it comes to advertising things and a lot of them are free, [00:15:00] but they're, it's hard. It's hard to know. Yeah. Plus I don't have, like, I'm trying to just make a good podcast and that's not easy to do already.
[:[00:15:13] Kolby Kirby: [00:15:13] dude. I like the Hannah Bolden one or whatever. Like when I listened to it, dude, like you've you have the voice for it too. I was like, dude, this sounds like a podcast guy. Good. Yeah. But it just like, yeah, I think dude, I see it even like it being freshly new when like it started not yet.
[:[00:15:38] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:15:38] goal of doing 50 50 interviews this year.
[:[00:15:45] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:15:45] long time?
[:[00:15:52] Kolby Kirby: [00:15:52] Like yeah. Cause you have to listen. You have, and you cut and put back, like
[:[00:16:08] And I'm one of those people actually. So I've had to really practice, not starting my sentences until I know what the fuck I'm going to say.
[:[00:16:20] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:16:20] I was like, well, I will just start a sentence. I think this might even be like a quote from the office, but I'll start a sentence without really knowing what it's going to be about.
[:[00:16:48] Kolby Kirby: [00:16:48] Well, yeah, yeah, yeah. You know,
[:[00:16:53]Kolby Kirby: [00:16:53] That'd be so cool. There's actually, it's a program you used to. Yeah. Wow, dude. [00:17:00] That's crazy
[:[00:17:09] But yeah,
[:[00:17:19] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:17:19] same. Yeah. It's just open source software. They don't really make it fancy, but it is, it's fun. Very functional. It has so many tools, but it's um, a garage band is a lot like, uh, it's prettier.
[:[00:17:49] Kolby Kirby: [00:17:49] dude, good to know. Cause, um, there's like, I really like with hip hop or whatever, it's like, I like the grungy sound of just the microphone and like your voice and like the B [00:18:00] almost really matching with the voice.
[:[00:18:16] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:18:16] compression takes your waves and it lengthens the short peaks and it compresses the tall peaks so that your lows come out about the same as your highs.
[:[00:18:52] Um, so nice dude. You, uh, it looks like you got some papers stacked up there, even writing. Yeah,
[:[00:19:24] Like thing is I possibly can. That's what I've gotten, like addicted to basically. So like there's a little Poseidon heightened side of them like that, you know, like stuff like that, like, yeah. That's
[:[00:19:50] He doesn't always go on, on the musical breaks. He'll like rap through that and then stop on a part that you weren't expecting. I like that. I like to be surprised in music. [00:20:00] It's nice.
[:[00:20:11] So you hear basically the same song a bunch of times, but, or like at least the same rhythm to it.
[:[00:20:28] Kolby Kirby: [00:20:28] Okay. Yeah. It's uh, I mean, yeah, it was R but yeah, it was like, when you, like you said, with NF, you're here and like an artist do something.
[:[00:20:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:20:44] Yeah. It's, he's very lyrical. Yeah. I love that. Plus, you know, he's emotional. I like the emotional sad boy rap. Let's get to that. What's your top five?
[:[00:21:02] Deltron uh, T he used to be in the hieroglyphs, like the hieroglyphics, and then he did like a good rap, like group back in the day. And then he did his own thing and he made an album it's like futuristic, it's called Deltron 30, 30. It's probably one of my best hip, like favorite hip hop albums ever. And it's just about like how he would perceive like the world in 30, 30.
[:[00:21:53] Like up for the uplifting of humanity. Like basically we don't get a lot of that in hip hop. No, not, and that's breaking people [00:22:00] down it yeah. A hundred percent. And it's like super sad because it's like, when you use poetry as an outlet, like it's happened to me a million times when I listened to M and M it's like, he's like, you couldn't do what I do.
[:[00:22:29] And listen to other people like that, where it's like uplifting and you, you know, it's like, I don't know. It's one of those things where it's definitely, I don't know. It's tough.
[:[00:22:51] Most people, the answer is none. Yeah. And recently for me, the answer is a little bit, and I got, I get so much out of it just [00:23:00] the little bit of time that I put into just kind of creative expression and, uh, and kind of embracing the shittiness because I'm a beginner at everything. So I'm a beginner podcaster.
[:[00:23:37] You know, I'm I made it, I, I got through my twenties, I have a job, I have some money and now I can just, you know, coast for. The rest of my life and then fucking die. Yeah.
[:[00:23:51] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:23:51] That I I've realized because of the podcast. I talk about that a lot.
[:[00:24:22] I haven't really done all that much stuff. That was fun. I, you know, I've done a lot of working my ass off. I want to do some fun stuff and this is fun.
[:[00:24:37] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:24:37] Yeah. I'm enjoying it. I'm enjoying it. Yeah.
[:[00:24:43] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:24:43] just going to offer,
[:[00:25:06] And it's like, I don't really release that much stuff, but I do have like a lot of stuff written, but with, yeah, it's just like, we live in a beautiful place, so it's, I don't know. Yeah. And
[:[00:25:26] Yeah, it's
[:[00:25:46] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:25:46] Right. Drawing is one. I wish, I, I wish I had that skill. Um, or that trained ability, I guess. It's I, when I was a little kid, I loved drawing. I was telling you right before we started recording, I [00:26:00] used to draw all the time. I used to draw these hands, uh, in elementary school with like fingers chopped off to, I like to draw hands.
[:[00:26:29] And it's not that good, but I think if I actually took a class and learned how to do it, I'd be great at it. Yeah. It's I kind of have that idea about everything though. I really do believe that if I learned anything, I would be good at it. Yeah. You're a smart dude. It's not even that. It's just like
[:[00:26:49] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:26:49] Yeah. I mean, I was pretty good. I was pretty sick out. They were pretty good. Um, you know, I do shadows on them and everything. Cigarette burn in the back. Yeah. Thank God.
[:[00:27:02] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:27:02] I'm still a twisted young kid, bro. But to be
[:[00:27:07] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:27:07] twist a young kid. I don't have a rap
[:[00:27:11] What? Now I gotta get one. Everyone needs a rap name. Uh, Lil milk guy.
[:[00:27:19] Kolby Kirby: [00:27:19] Yeah. It was one of them.
[:[00:27:22] Kolby Kirby: [00:27:22] It's just, I like milk a lot.
[:[00:27:25] Kolby Kirby: [00:27:25] It's so good.
[:[00:27:27] Kolby Kirby: [00:27:27] Yeah, dude. And I'm Lola and I'm a guy, so I just, yeah.
[:[00:27:34] Kolby Kirby: [00:27:34] Yeah. On
[:[00:27:49] Kolby Kirby: [00:27:49] a fight.
[:[00:27:57] Kolby Kirby: [00:27:57] Oh, I would probably could kick his ass before I got tired, [00:28:00] but I'd be lifting so much weights. I'd be super tired. Yeah. So
[:[00:28:07] Kolby Kirby: [00:28:07] Yeah, dude. No, actually I'm not even going to agree with you dude, because. Yeah. He'll come after you.
[:[00:28:17] But, um, he does have, you know, bicep implants
[:[00:28:23] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:28:23] And pec.. Yeah, he just, he was afraid of telling people about it. I don't Jeff live your truth, bro. Yeah. Live your truth. Yeah. He doesn't listen to the podcast by the way.
[:[00:28:41] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:28:41] Yeah. Oh good times. So what do you do? You hang out with Jake these days? I
[:[00:28:50] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:28:50] Jake. I know stole stolen from me. Everybody keeps saying that
[:[00:28:57] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:28:57] yeah. Isn't it crazy? How stand up, have a [00:29:00] duty. Oh
[:[00:29:03] Well, I mean,
[:[00:29:07] Kolby Kirby: [00:29:07] going to be the case. No, if he's just kidding, dude, he's
[:[00:29:15] Kolby Kirby: [00:29:15] asked my mom, this is all really?
[:[00:29:21] Kolby Kirby: [00:29:21] Good Lord. Well know
[:[00:29:24] You're right. Yeah. Um, no, in all seriousness though, I've heard you guys have been like hanging out and getting the Bible out.
[:[00:29:32] Kolby Kirby: [00:29:32] yeah, yeah, dude. We just have Bible study. Like we try to do it every week or whatever, but it doesn't happen that way, you know, whatever stuff comes up. And then I started working over at the bow line or battle line and then, Oh, the hotel.
[:[00:29:47] Kolby Kirby: [00:29:47] Yeah. Okay. I worked for Tiffany and Brady over there. Yeah. It's dude. It's I just started like, um, like, uh, three weeks ago. Shout
[:[00:29:59] Kolby Kirby: [00:29:59] the show, [00:30:00] dude. So awesome to work for. Do they, as soon as I got there, I was like, okay. Yeah, the whole, environment's just like next level.
[:[00:30:17] Kolby Kirby: [00:30:17] like to like they own, you know, hotels and stuff, but the way that they talk to you, isn't like there it's just so like, it's genuine. It's not like, you know, I don't know. It's just, it's really, it's good to work for somebody like that.
[:[00:30:49] But yeah, I want to say,
[:[00:30:58] Kolby Kirby: [00:30:58] That's I do not been on cloud [00:31:00] nine lately just because I might well, where my cuts station is two outside of the battle line is right on the freaking, like as close as you can get to the river.
[:[00:31:11] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:31:11] beautiful. Oh yeah. Yeah. That's the river I'm talking about on ramble by the river Columbia river. I will click on
[:[00:31:21] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:31:21] Corey. I'm talking about whatever river somebody is near when they're listening to this show. I don't give a fuck.
[:[00:31:44] Kolby Kirby: [00:31:44] Oh yeah. I said that the other day. And they were like, it's actually the battle line. Oh really? Yeah.
[:[00:31:52] That's what I thought. Cause I want to say bow line. Yeah. That's that makes sense to me. I can read.
[:[00:31:58] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:31:58] Bolan, but [00:32:00] Bolin is the name of that. Not like, yeah. Yeah, but it's and not as many to TA to tie off a bout line. Yeah.
[:[00:32:15] It's just like, it's one of those little ones I seem to be. No, it's just, this is just a small one. Like, let your mind go with drift this time. I tied the bowl into the battle line, so I won't not slip. Oh, that's great. Yeah. Like, and it's of like, if you knew me, you know, I work at a drift and the battle line, so I was like, Oh, I'll write about that then.
[:[00:32:37] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:32:37] do you just a lot of little pieces that, that come to you, like when you hear something or you see something and then you just write just the line. Um, and then do you ever go through and like, Piece them all together. How does, how does a collection of little chunks become a
[:[00:33:01] It's just like a bunch of little sentences or paragraphs. And then like, I'll be like, Oh, that one matches up really well with that one. But yeah. And then, so you'd go through and you pick through, and then you kind of place them together like that.
[:[00:33:29] Kolby Kirby: [00:33:29] you?
[:[00:33:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:33:35] early nineties type stuff. Yeah.
[:[00:33:49] Or is there, is that even a thing? Cause there's, there's like, there's what was it? It was like a verse that was like, I swear to God I'm addicted to blue [00:34:00] cheese. And it was like, what is delicious? It's so good. And it hit home and I just went and then I was like, dude, I'm going to, yeah, it made me want to write, this is
[:[00:34:11] Can you hear it? Yeah.
[:[00:34:19] Kolby Kirby: [00:34:19] They're going to like that.
[:[00:34:29] Kolby Kirby: [00:34:29] Oh, nice dude. You want to hear it? I see. I like stuff.
[:[00:34:41] Oh, yeah. I never did finish it because I have fucked it all up. And then her birthday came and went and she didn't care in the first place. It was, it was really for me, so nice. But yeah. Um, I got
[:[00:34:55] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:34:55] Oh, she liked it better. She was about to say, I don't really like this [00:35:00] song, dad. So I have my real anyway, we've been
[:[00:35:04] So you bought the Milwaukee hat? Yeah. And then I just, I bought Jed a diet not too long ago at T's to, from Costco. No, it was from, I kept it local cause I'm not. Yeah. I kept it
[:[00:35:29] Kolby Kirby: [00:35:29] I only shop at two places.
[:[00:35:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:35:35] corporate natural grocer that someone wants corporate. Yeah. I tricked you damn it.
[:[00:35:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:35:44] Okay. Here we go. Okay. That's pretty good. That's good on this beat. This is embarrassing. Okay. Everybody listen up. I got to say what I heard is a little rumor [00:36:00] the saying about some shit that don't concern you. Ain't nobody got a tumor. Nobody's getting married. Nobody's leaving town.
[:[00:36:24] Ain't nobody in it. Don't phonics. She ain't on it reads every single night to fall asleep. She got Dr. Seuss, full tear and dust off yesterday, not the Nava cop. I heard he is free. Daddy go make me a Baba. Grandmama's nipple pin between my little fingers. This mom and dad are mine. They both can deaf and blind, but when I'm sleeping, man, they, I can like to sing, dude.
[:[00:36:51] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:36:51] There you go. That blonde mood now she, Devon now she flying gravity, [00:37:00] defying things. She just threw out the window in the kitchen at times she said it's a wonder was going to be at six feet under when they add a ball, the points in the rap game. But, you know, she ain't be bitching. Don't believe it.
[:[00:37:29] Go curls in the streets. Still going to find a rain machine, scary dream, and need mommy in the worst way. Most of the time she delightful despite the time that she's spiteful. It's my dammit. I'll try again. Trying to go. Ah, this is hard, shiny Eagle curls in the streets, but still gonna find her in my sheets, scary dream, and need a mommy in the worst way.
[:[00:38:00] [00:38:00] Tom, she delightful. Despite the times that she's spiteful today, we celebrate baby. It's your birthday? And that's something like that
[:[00:38:08] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:38:08] dude. That's I made a bunch of mistakes, but you know, you get the gist. Oh yeah, dude.
[:[00:38:31] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:38:31] Yes. Do that before, you know, it it's off somewhere completely different. Yeah.
[:[00:38:45] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:38:45] Yeah. Yeah. Most of what I have in my phone, or just like. Little bits. And every once in a while, I'll start like, Oh yeah, that can make, I could write a song out of that.
[:[00:39:09] Kolby Kirby: [00:39:09] Hard. Yeah. Yeah. That's why when people say, Oh, that person sucks or whatever, like I've heard people say M and M is not good.
[:[00:39:23] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:39:23] definitely doesn't suck. Yeah. That's the thing with art period, as a consumer of it, you really have all the power to just say, Oh, that's no good or that's great. But a lot of people don't put much thought into that consider like there's no consideration to it.
[:[00:39:54] You don't like watching people brutally murdered. I mean, at least I hope you don't. If you do, [00:40:00] please turn this off. I don't want you as my fan. And, but you still watch it because you like the way it makes you feel, or you can respect that it's a piece of art because it's trying to evoke an emotional state.
[:[00:40:15] Kolby Kirby: [00:40:15] no, totally. Yeah. I do get it. Yeah. You want to spit something? Yeah, sure. Dude. Can I use the bathroom first?
[:[00:40:35] Kolby Kirby: [00:40:35] I got this. It might look in handsome.
[:[00:40:42] Kolby Kirby: [00:40:42] feel handsome. That can kind of see my glare
[:[00:40:53] Sometimes that is, I was doing that with Martha Williams for a second. I couldn't tell which one of us I was, [00:41:00]
[:[00:41:24] And what you said, something else that I liked, but I don't remember exactly what your wording was.
[:[00:42:03] Cause I kind of like, I
[:[00:42:30] It's it's pretty amazing.
[:[00:42:59] It's [00:43:00] just absolutely crazy. So
[:[00:43:21] And that what came out was dictated a lot more by fear of judgment. Cause that's what dictated it for me. Yeah. Um, as a kid growing up, like when you had to write a poem in school, my poems were never great. They were always because I was trying to blend in a little bit. I didn't want to be, and I didn't really know whether or not I could write a great poem.
[:[00:44:00] And then you can layer that and it's like, ah, yeah, you can write a poem.
[:[00:44:20] Yeah. Yeah. On how you perceive the world. So it's yeah, yeah,
[:[00:44:44] Kolby Kirby: [00:44:44] Yeah. Yeah. Well, I'm a huge, yeah. I like, I do pencil sketches a lot, but your favorite thing to draw. Flowers. I'd like to, but lately I've been working on like flowers and then hiding like the constellation in them. [00:45:00] I saw some dots.
[:[00:45:01] Kolby Kirby: [00:45:01] that flower Orion's belt when it lines up with the pyramid.
[:[00:45:09] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:45:09] I get it. Yeah. That's artistic. So you're putting, you're building in layers of meaning. Yeah. And then, so where does that come from? Where did, where, what drove you to make that?
[:[00:45:28] And then it's, it's a really, it's just like a chain to like that point of like, I like to draw flowers and then you're drawing a flower. You're like, Oh, what if I put, you know, stars over the thorns to make it look like the Ryan's bell of a pyramid, but you know,
[:[00:45:47] Kolby Kirby: [00:45:47] got.
[:[00:46:02] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:46:02] Yeah. He was really cool in so many different
[:[00:46:11] It's like, how did you get to that point? You know? And I've always tried to like, at least like, you know, and yeah.
[:[00:46:31] Kolby Kirby: [00:46:31] Yeah. Like his drawings, there's like a really cool, um, it's like a book, a coffee table book, but it's of all of his pencil sketches from his notebooks and I've, I got my hands on it.
[:[00:46:51] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:46:51] Yeah. I've seen it. And it's a lot of the stuff's written backwards and codes
[:[00:46:57] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:46:57] Is that, yeah. Well, that's a good [00:47:00] question. So a lot of people would look at that as crazy.
[:[00:47:15] Kolby Kirby: [00:47:15] I th I think it's easy to lose grip of reality. You know, you can't focus on, I just, I don't know. I mean, I definitely have lost my mind a couple of times, not saying like I'm talking crazy artists or anything or whatever, but come, but my own personal experience of like, when I do go on to like a creative Berenger is like this place.
[:[00:47:46] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:47:46] more, yeah. It's more important to be where you're where you
[:[00:47:55] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:47:55] that. That's the thing, that's what I'm getting at with that is that [00:48:00] losing your mind is relative.
[:[00:48:25] And if you don't, it will die. And there is a certain level of craziness that accompanies that
[:[00:48:49] And you're like, what? Yeah. But then you look at their art and they're like, they can drink yellow paint.
[:[00:49:00] [00:49:00] Kolby Kirby: [00:49:00] Yeah. Right. It's like you, you get to be super crazy, but you'll have to make good art to make up for
[:[00:49:07] You better be good. Otherwise was just a weirdo. Yeah. I've known some people in my life who I thought were just weirdos. And then I saw their art and I was like, Oh shit, you're an artist. Okay. Yeah,
[:[00:49:29] I don't know how to really have a conversation with you. And then you see there. Art or whatever it's like, Oh yeah. You're not really here for that. You're thinking about something completely different.
[:[00:49:48] Kolby Kirby: [00:49:48] Oh, well, I mean, I really like
[:[00:50:11] Does that make sense? Um, and, but there are other things. Very few where it's actually like, no, that's a fantasy that I can, I can deal with the sacrifices and I can put myself in that scenario in my mind and I'm happy with it. I'm going to, and I'm actually taking steps towards that. And like, that's what this podcast is a good example of that.
[:[00:50:36] Kolby Kirby: [00:50:36] yeah, dude, like, um, just like basically just like I told myself like five songs a year or whatever, you know, that's what I was going to do, but it's basically just like, I don't know me. Yeah. My goal is just to like, let people know,
[:[00:51:13] So like, whatever. Yeah. We
[:[00:51:23] Kolby Kirby: [00:51:23] like hip hop dude to me is like, you know, you, your expression, you're expressing yourself. And you know, like the circumstances or, Hey, I'm just good at putting words together, but it's like, we live in a tiny town, so it doesn't, it gets like it has a, you know, the way that people see it is like kind of different off, but it doesn't need to be that way.
[:[00:51:57] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:51:57] Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. I I've [00:52:00] definitely been that
[:[00:52:02] I know. Yeah, same. I know it's when you think about it, you're like, damn, it's super silly, but yeah, w you're you're sensitive when you're younger.
[:[00:52:35] And that is a painful process. You have to deal with being shitty and having other people see it and know, and be like, um, man, it's a hard once. I just accepted that future and realized like, once I get through that, like the reward for that is, is great. So it's worth it. I'm in that stage now and it's okay.
[:[00:53:22] Yeah. Being who you want to be,
[:[00:53:28] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:53:28] I think that truth is most often going to lead to the best outcome, even if that's truth of just like what you want, like being honest with yourself and the people around you about what you want to do with your time and your energy. And I know, obviously everybody can't just do exactly what they want all the time.
[:[00:54:11] And then by doing that also the world around them with creating something beautiful, that's a path worth pursuing.
[:[00:54:30] Like I, my, like my dad, for instance, like, Hey dad, Hey or, Hey mom, Hey dad is, uh, I like. When I would write, like when I was younger, I'd sit in the passenger seat and write raps or whatever, and he would, I would hear endless shit about it. Like, Oh, that hip hop, like when he'd get mad at me, gangster that shit like that fucking, like, what are you doing?
[:[00:55:14] Yeah. He was like, Oh, okay. You know, it's like, yeah, dude, it's not like about that. It's not. But I think probably a lot of people think that way too. Yeah.
[:[00:55:33] Kolby Kirby: [00:55:33] Yeah, sure. It's um, I just, it's just on YouTube, dude. I don't really have much, but it's mega ex uh, and the song I just released was mouth of the Columbia. So that's on
[:[00:55:49] Kolby Kirby: [00:55:49] have Instagram. It was Colby. X Kirby is my Instagram. Yeah. Yeah. But that's basically, I need to make a Spotify really, but I just been,
[:[00:56:02] Um, I've well, I mean, it's probably different for uploading songs, but the podcast, I just have them connected to my RSS feed. So my podcast host, which is called captivate and they, I upload my audio tracks to them and then they distribute them to platforms. Oh, all right. And then I just found this out recently, but there's a backend thing for creators on Spotify.
[:[00:56:48] Kolby Kirby: [00:56:48] Yeah, dude. Oh, I showed you that one song, uh, with Magna or whatever. That's I think I need a pop up that one. I liked that, man. It was good. Yeah. So he was from Hawaii. He's [00:57:00] like 50 years old. It's got a cool voice. He's a cool dude. Yeah. He's funny. He's a cook that taught me how to cook over there. When I was like, went over to that over
[:[00:57:09] When we
[:[00:57:32] Nice. Yeah, it was a little fish market slash sushi, like, um, cooked joint that was on in Honda lay on North shore. Just absolutely gorgeous dude. And is this on the big Island? No, it's a coy. Oh yeah. And like, so I would get done washing dishes and I would go. And just hang up my hammock, like about 50 yards away from it and then stay there.
[:[00:58:07] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:58:07] in Hawaii. Yeah. Yeah. But the rain is warm.
[:[00:58:20] I had to go to, um, the pavilion or whatever, down the road. And then I had to insulate my hammock with, uh, I had to steal a roll of toilet paper. That's when I was like, I'm over it.
[:[00:58:38] Kolby Kirby: [00:58:38] Well, no, it wasn't that way.
[:[00:58:46] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:58:46] you know, and wrapped yourself. You made yourself a toilet paper, mummy,
[:[00:59:00] And I was like looking up at the sky and like, how'd I get here?
[:[00:59:06] Kolby Kirby: [00:59:06] Uh, I just needed like a break from everything I was doing. Like I was working here doing construction with my dad and it got to the point where it's like, dude, I can do whatever I want. So that's what I did. I just packed a bag and went over there and stayed on the beach.
[:[00:59:32] Kolby Kirby: [00:59:32] TP. So, yeah, dude, I did that and it was,
[:[00:59:41] Kolby Kirby: [00:59:41] It was awesome. Honestly, I wish it could just be that way with like, Do you know, it honestly is when I felt the most free, but it's just that, that way of living without like really knowing where you're going to take a shower next or, or like cold showers, that part.
[:[01:00:11] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:00:11] four feet of water. So as exposed
[:[01:00:18] Yeah, it took me so long to figure it out, dude.
[:[01:00:31] Kolby Kirby: [01:00:31] yeah, no, I do that. I bet that was like half the time. And then, uh, no, I
[:[01:00:39] Kolby Kirby: [01:00:39] ya dude, right? Oh man. Yeah.
[:[01:01:09] There. And she should just start
[:[01:01:13] Kolby Kirby: [01:01:13] bra. Yeah. She, she gave, it was like, you need a car and like all this. Cause she kinda realized like they were used to people cycling in and out, but I stayed and they were like, Oh, okay. This guy is not just going to be here. And I, like, I worked in my hours and she ended up getting me like a nice car for 300 bucks and she drove it to me when I was staying in the pavilion and was super sweet to me, dude.
[:[01:01:56] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:01:56] teriyaki chicken. They do.
[:[01:02:02] Basically the fish market is running fish to the cook line and to the sushi line. It's super. It was awesome.
[:[01:02:15] Kolby Kirby: [01:02:15] Oh yeah, no, like I definitely, it was perfect. I was like, what? Just hat. I was like, it was too, it was really freaking awesome.
[:[01:02:29] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:02:29] wow. I know fishing
[:[01:02:47] Oh. Like I lived with for like, you know, a year or so in Hawaii, small world. I was doing it blew my mind.
[:[01:02:55] Kolby Kirby: [01:02:55] happened. I know, dude, that was, so it was
[:[01:03:09] So w how often do you notice synchronicities? All the time. Okay. That's what I thought things were like, you'll have a thought about a person and then you see that person immediately after, um,
[:[01:03:33] Yeah. Synchronicities, all that stuff. Yeah. Happens a lot. Yeah, it's too coincidental, dude. I'll have thoughts in my head and then I'm watching the TV and it's like, it'll almost answer the freaking question I just had. And you're like, what the F what timing is that like?
[:[01:04:04] Basically they have that the, you saw that social dilemma that Netflix won. Did you see that?
[:[01:04:15] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:04:15] This, they ex express this idea with these avatars where it's like the, the app is taking information about you and using it to build a model of you that it can use them to predict your behavior.
[:[01:04:47] It's tracking your eye movements and looking at what you're looking at and seeing like, Oh, it likes this picture. So we'll do more of these. Cause it's got a front facing camera
[:[01:05:01] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:05:01] If that's not true, I'm sorry, but I feel like it is true. I, I have, um, I'm speculating on that.
[:[01:05:14] Kolby Kirby: [01:05:14] I was telling, uh, Jake, the other day I was talking about parachutes. Cause I use one like over like, you know, campfire to make like a little hut thing, but, or whatever. It's just like what a random thing I'm talking about.
[:[01:05:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:05:35] Yeah. That I'm not as surprised by because there's no doubt in my mind that the phones are listening to your conversation. Yeah. Or especially if you text about it, if they read your text messages and your emails and it has to be listening also, because why wouldn't they, they have a technology it's already listening.
[:[01:06:06] Kolby Kirby: [01:06:06] Yeah. Yeah, that's crazy. I don't know. I think it's kind of going in a direction where it's like, I think the government will take control of it a lot or, or like they already do have control over it a lot, but they just don't let us know how much, but I think it's going to be pretty obvious.
[:[01:06:27] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:06:27] the user to get on like a social media. Yeah. I mean, it all conglomorate together. Right? If you want to go vote, you got to show your, your USA badge and it's like, has your COVID vaccination and your, your Twitter handle.
[:[01:06:47] You're like, whatever,
[:[01:07:08] I would give you a bike, a friend you would ever find. I think that's must be what they base it off. I'll loan you a cup of sugar. I'll help you move. You know, people who know me are like this mother fucker is such a liar. It was so funny. I'm real busy. I don't, I don't think I would do great on the friendship score.
[:[01:07:37] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:07:37] is that his number? I think so. Are you, are you just saying that's his social score? I don't know baseball. Is it baseball? Yeah, he sounds pretty good. Yeah. Yeah.
[:[01:07:53] Oh yeah. Old one. Huh? Yeah, he was old, but I was thinking of a
[:[01:08:08] Kolby Kirby: [01:08:08] Yeah, I'm surprised you knew that
[:[01:08:24] Kolby Kirby: [01:08:24] Okay. I don't even know if that sports talk like that. Wait, that's the joke.
[:[01:08:33] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:08:33] I can't talk sports cause I don't watch sports. Do you watch sports?
[:[01:08:38] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:08:38] you protest sports. Yeah. You take a knee while the games are on. I just,
[:[01:08:55] I don't like it.
[:[01:09:13] While you are
[:[01:09:16] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:09:16] the Macarena right now. I don't
[:[01:09:21] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:09:21] Oh, where were you? And that was all the only dance anyone was doing.
[:[01:09:30] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:09:30] it, I know, but like, if you just start, your body will do it. That's what just
[:[01:09:36] It was like, I went to put my hands out. Like I kind of remembered it and then I just
[:[01:09:44] Kolby Kirby: [01:09:44] mockery. I am so brainwashed. Yeah,
[:[01:10:00] That's the dark arts
[:[01:10:03] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:10:03] and one is all exactly. Okay. Now that's, that's actually a pretty good concept. Gestalt gestalt thinking the sum is greater than, or a whole is greater than the sum of it.
[:[01:10:19] Yeah. Yeah. Sorry,
[:[01:10:26] Kolby Kirby: [01:10:26] How do they do it? I don't
[:[01:10:31] Kolby Kirby: [01:10:31] nature is like the most beautiful artist I've ever seen in my life.
[:[01:10:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:10:35] I'll drink to that. Um, there's some pretty cool like spirals and stuff and plants.
[:[01:10:59] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:10:59] I didn't get it [01:11:00] for a long time. Like when you look at it, it's not beautiful. Like the very first expression, like the, like the three blocks that are the right ratio. Um, it's what you make with that. That's beautiful. Yeah. Okay. And that's cool. Asher MC Escher what's that MC Escher is that artists that made the paintings where the stairs like go off.
[:[01:11:25] Kolby Kirby: [01:11:25] those. Yeah. That screws with your head so
[:[01:11:42] Like almost like a tile. Yeah. Um, they're really cool. They're fun to look at and they're fun to make it like you. Anything that it breaks up a field mathematically like that, and it has a repeating character to it. It's it's fine. I think it's really [01:12:00] cool. Yeah, it does. But yeah, that's what I was thinking with.
[:[01:12:04] Kolby Kirby: [01:12:04] was just, yeah, that's awesome.
[:[01:12:14] Kolby Kirby: [01:12:14] dude. Your and your art in here, dude is freaking awesome.
[:[01:12:23] No, it was, it was fun.
[:[01:12:36] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:12:36] I loved it. I loved every minute of it. That's what I was thinking of. When you were talking about, uh, getting into your writing where it's just like, you want to just create this thing and you know what it is and you got to get it out.
[:[01:12:54] Kolby Kirby: [01:12:54] dude, that that's when, like, there's that really sweet spot of like, when you [01:13:00] start enjoying it, like, you're just ending, you're in it. You're like, Oh, excited. That's what I always chase, you know? Yeah.
[:[01:13:30] Yeah. You gotta do it a lot. Like I feel like if I painted over this whole wall and had to do the whole process over, I, it would take me half as long and it would be twice the quality. Just because I've done it once already. Yeah. That's why the, the, anytime I'm starting something new. I mean, when I was a kid, I would just let it break me.
[:[01:14:08] Kolby Kirby: [01:14:08] I, yeah, I get it, dude. It's like, yeah. You're like, whatever dude, like you're so used to failing or whatever.
[:[01:14:18] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:14:18] accepted as the failure is not a result. It's it's it is the process. It's like, you go a little and figure it out. But a lot of that is, is backtracking and figuring, you know what doesn't work. Dude,
[:[01:14:47] But yeah, so that just sent me up for failure. Like you go to someone's door and they're like, you mother fucking get them. Oh, you're on my property. Like you get yelled at. And that happens at least 30 times a day where you actually get yelled at pretty hard and kicked off, like, or [01:15:00] they'll try to get you off the yard.
[:[01:15:01] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:15:01] personally offended that you tried to sell them. Sorry. Yeah,
[:[01:15:19] You're just like, I guess we're not going to be friends. I have sold the people that have done that to me and almost had me off their property. And I was like, well, duh, like, you know, because yeah.
[:[01:15:35] Yeah. I bet it's actually easy to solve it.
[:[01:15:58] Sorry. I had a tough [01:16:00] day. I didn't know you were actually gonna help me with, you know, or whatever that is, but it's, it's just, um, you know, cause you don't know what that person's gone through that day.
[:[01:16:20] Yeah.
[:[01:16:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:16:44] just getting yelled
[:[01:16:45] Oh yeah. Dude. And like just call the worst stuff, dude. Yeah. You're like what the, okay. And you can't say nothing, you know, that's your job is basically being a punching bag for Verizon.
[:[01:17:03] Kolby Kirby: [01:17:03] Complaining all the time.
[:[01:17:20] Just, you know, just periodically
[:[01:17:43] I don't like insurance companies.
[:[01:17:50] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:17:50] It's one of those things that, um, we need that are important. And I feel like they take advantage of people because of that. Same, [01:18:00] just cell phone companies too. Actually, that's another one it's
[:[01:18:06] It's like, they just have this, but it's legal. Yeah.
[:[01:18:12] Kolby Kirby: [01:18:12] don't know about that.
[:[01:18:16] Kolby Kirby: [01:18:16] Yeah. Don't bro. You don't want to know.
[:[01:18:23] Kolby Kirby: [01:18:23] you're looking for. Uh, can we listen to that one Drake thing you're talking about?
[:[01:18:29] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:18:29] right down there. Hurricane sweet. Uh, right this I like this one. Okay. Tell me what you think
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