Episode 59
Hannah Bolden 2: How to Decide Which of Your Kids is the Best
Hannah bolden is a runner, a teacher, and a decorated barrel racer. She stops by the crabshed and we talk about local gossip, Hannah’s upcoming wedding to Colten Chalker (friend of the show), we debate the merits of video games, and we hear about what can happen after getting 23andme.com results.
This is a fun podcast with a lot of laughs, despite a rough start (One of our teachers was arrested the night before we recorded this, so that came up right away and it was not in the episode plan. Once we got that out of the way, the tone brightened up).
You'll enjoy discussions like these:
-Hannah gets engaged to Colten Chalker.
-Hannah discusses the possibility of in vitro fertilization
-Jeff discusses crime statistics by gender
- Hannah brings human shit into a crowded van
-Do you tell your spouse when you poop your pants?
-Hannah's mom conducts a stealth paternity-test.
-and much, much more...
Special guest Melissa Nesbitt joins Jeff during the intro to discuss some exciting news and current events.
Keywords: Havana Syndrome; direct-energy weapons; Getting married; Step-parenting; parenting; broken arms; trampolines; family; engagement; kids; virtual reality; video games; Xbox; Beat Saber; work/life balance; Instagram marketing; morning rituals; health supplements; turmeric; Clatsop County jail; marketing; diet Mountain Dew; NFTs; DAOs; smart contracts; the U.S. Constitution; Nicolaus Cage; National Treasure; dad jokes; Conair; John Malkovich; horse sales; Ocean Park; fertility; invitro fertilization; genetic testing; twins; gift registries; CRISPR; DAO babies; crime statistics; male crime; gratitude; running; Hood-to-Coast; human shit; Portland Marathon; 23andme; genetic testing; ancestry.com; paternity testing; horse bites.
Music:
Altostratus, Franz Gordon.
La Gran Sabana, Don Bacilion.
Ramblebytheriver.com for links and other information.
Transcript
Hannah Bolden 2
Intro raw audio DRAFT1 - 2:6:22, 1.20 PM
[:[00:00:27] Welcome to ramble by the. I'm your host, Jeff Nesbitt. And we've got a great show for you today. Thanks for tuning in. It's Monday, February 7th, 20, 22 crazy stuff going on in the world this week. So we're going to dive right in here's some news and current events. Please give a warm welcome to Melissa Nesbitt.
[:[00:00:53] Melissa Nesbitt: Today is 2, 2 22.
[:[00:01:05] Melissa Nesbitt: just tricky because this is louder in my ears than I am in my own ears.
[:[00:01:13] Jeff Nesbitt: There we go. Okay. Is that good? I
[:[00:01:24] Jeff Nesbitt: Nothing news and current events is what I have it labeled in my outline as. But, you know, that's not that exciting.
[:[00:01:41] Melissa Nesbitt: really curious whether we pick the same thing or
[:[00:01:44] Melissa Nesbitt: I'll tell you mine when you're ready.
[:[00:01:48] Melissa Nesbitt: Okay. I chose an article from Newsweek. It is the number.
[:[00:02:08] Jeff Nesbitt: Well, that's a good title. I'm definitely interested.
[:[00:02:18] Jeff Nesbitt: Everything. It seems like that'd be a major story, but I have not heard about
[:[00:02:23] And that's so weird because we just watched that movie with Leonardo DiCaprio, Netflix called don't look up, I believe.
[:[00:02:37] Melissa Nesbitt: it was very satirical. And for me, like a metaphor about climate change, But here's the story.
[:[00:03:23] Jeff Nesbitt: That seems big, but, uh, is it big enough to not like be affected by the atmosphere? Would it, what is it gonna burn up? Um, maybe it'll just catch on fire and then hit the earth. I don't know all
[:[00:03:51] Um, it says though, no need for concern while the asteroid is classified as potentially hazardous by NASA's [00:04:00] center for near earth object studies, . It is not in any danger of hitting us in the foreseeable future.
[:[00:04:15] Melissa Nesbitt: the headline reads image shows asteroid that could be 4,000 feet wide heading towards earth.
[:[00:04:48] It's not going to hit us. I don't care. it must be hard to be an asteroid journalist.
[:[00:05:07] What it say miles. so what
[:[00:05:11] felt
[:[00:05:24] And then you scroll down to this orange heading. Trending stories. And I wanted to read what those were. So it wasn't even in the top stories. And when I saw that in trending, I was just like, it's happening? Like the movie said it will be a small little piece here and no one's even going to pay attention.
[:[00:06:04] Like, you know what I mean? The way like vaccines and things like that don't seem to be political, but all of a sudden they become that. I bet it would
[:[00:06:16] Jeff Nesbitt: pandemic. Yeah. And it would smash into the earth and hit us all the same
[:[00:06:24] What's your story?
[:[00:06:31] I don't know if you have ever done any research on. what would you call it? , alternative weaponry. Oh,
[:[00:06:41] Jeff Nesbitt: No. So I'm talking like defense shit, like military stuff? No. Well, direct energy weapons.
[:[00:07:29] And also in, when they were traveling abroad, it started having a strange collection of symptoms call and they just started calling it Havana syndrome because it was really common in Cuba. Couldn't figure it out. Couldn't figure it out. Crazy. People were saying it's direct energy weapons. All along and it's like, that's ridiculous.
[:[00:07:52] Havana syndrome.
[:[00:08:07] The panel said about a thousand people have reported symptoms. That one people is not a small number. Uh, so you
[:[00:08:18] Jeff Nesbitt: A lot of them okay. Are like diplomats and spies and. Officials,
[:[00:08:27] Jeff Nesbitt: It's not random. it started in Washington, DC and , Havana, Cuba, and places like that.
[:[00:08:51] Melissa Nesbitt: this is like the stuff they make movies out of. cause it really snipers with technology, right? That's
[:[00:09:04] That's not good.
[:[00:09:13] intelligence. Officials told NBC news that the panel included a group of scientists and technical experts from both inside and outside the government who reviewed more than a thousand classified documents and conducted the most exhaustive study to date on the possible causes of Havana syndrome. Let's see, what were the, I want to hear what the symptoms.
[:[00:09:44] Uh, Wikipedia. There we go.
[:[00:09:52] Jeff Nesbitt: I mean with it.
[:[00:10:05] during the cold war beams of microwaves were aimed at the us embassy building and Moscow from at least 1953 to 1976. According to medical studies involving embassy staff, initially a beam based the 10 floor us embassy directed from an apartment building about a hundred yards to the west. By 75, there were two beams
[:[00:10:31] Yeah. So Russians or cooking Americans on the, at the embassy from a hundred yards away,
[:[00:10:55] a shield was eventually installed and at least officially no adverse [00:11:00] health effects were found in. Wow. No one is certain who is behind these attacks.
[:[00:11:21] Jeff Nesbitt: That's crazy.
[:[00:11:24] Melissa Nesbitt: Wow. Uh, we were just talking about this. It's so hard to know where we stand with Russia at any given point in time. It's that media stuff.
[:[00:11:35] Melissa Nesbitt: know. Do we trust Russia? Do we not? I don't. It makes me think
[:[00:11:43] I don't trust anybody. I barely trust you. That's not true. It is true. And you're the only person that has no shit.
[:[00:11:56] Jeff Nesbitt: sure. What's going on? I don't know anything about a blizzard. We talking to Oreo [00:12:00] races, strawberry cheese. Can you pull the mic up a
[:[00:12:08] Jeff Nesbitt: Yes. Well, don't lean away from it. Pull it up and then talk into it from a closer distance like that.
[:[00:12:26] Jeff Nesbitt: How much is normal for Pennsylvania? Oh, I don't know that. What if it's two and a half feet, I need a frame of reference.
[:[00:12:37] I
[:[00:12:55] There's still, the markets are shit. And I think let's see, [00:13:00] COVID still thing, right? We're still, yeah.
[:[00:13:06] Oh, we could, uh, I gotta do my, my better know of bias to what's a good, but what's what, what should I pick this week?
[:[00:13:14] Melissa Nesbitt: what the, what, what you're aiming at there.
[:[00:13:41] If you don't know, they're there, they're invisible. So it's good to know. That's good information to have. And then if more people know about it, or I know haven't have a name to call it, like, you can talk about it. It becomes a
[:[00:14:05] I mean, we all have different ones, right?
[:[00:14:10] I'm I have no idea what you're talking about. Okay. I'm talking about the second.
[:[00:14:19] Melissa Nesbitt: The last two episodes? I don't remember this part number, this
[:[00:14:37] Melissa Nesbitt: I've, you've read something from immigration last time.
[:[00:14:45] Jeff Nesbitt: last, I mean, , there was also that Cooper, not what I'm talking about.
[:[00:14:52] Melissa Nesbitt: Okay. We're throwing this away, right?
[:[00:15:20] Melissa Nesbitt: I thought you were talking about inherent biases,
[:[00:15:28] Melissa Nesbitt: are being a scientist. And I'm just thinking about like natural inherent biases that I have as a human being. You're like putting a label on those and putting them into categories.
[:[00:15:45] Oh, you just wanted to talk about our biases.
[:[00:16:14] Jeff Nesbitt: Well, this has been fun. Uh, and I think we should wrap it up and call this one. Good. Let's see. Do you want to introduce Hannah? That's that's all we have left.
[:[00:16:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Bolden is oh, wait, wait, wait. I got, if you want to find ramble by the river on social. At ramble by the river on Facebook and Instagram and at ramble river pod on Twitter.
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[:[00:17:48] All the instructions for that are still on ramble by the river.com. Thank you to those who participated
[:[00:18:06] Okay. Let's see,
[:[00:18:19] Melissa Nesbitt: friend, Hannah is funny and smart. She is one of the strongest women I know, and a fantastic mom and friend, and I think she's a pretty good horse person.
[:[00:18:37] Jeff Nesbitt: I got to save the date today. Oh, it's on the kitchen counter. She's also getting
[:[00:18:43] Jeff Nesbitt: We talk about that in the episode. It's exciting. Yeah. Hannah's been a friend of mine for a long time. She's a really good person and she's marrying one of my best friends.
[:[00:19:05] Thank you for coming. You're welcome.
Main
[:[00:00:19] We were at a basketball game and I'm sitting there with chase and, um, Oh, not that kid, not a kid. He's a man. But, he's like, do you hear about Bishop and like chasing and go to school here or anything? So to him, it's just some teacher. Yeah. And he's like, yeah, child porn. What, what are you talking about child porn.
[:[00:00:46] Hannah Bolden: And this is just shocking, like two out of our middle school teachers.
[:[00:00:54] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I know. Yeah. Just it's [00:01:00] weird. Um, it's very weird. Yeah. I'd be able to laugh it off. I would at least try to laugh it off. Right. If I didn't have kids in the school system now.
[:[00:01:11] Hannah Bolden: Yeah, me too. Also with the first one, that was my teacher and my kid's teacher. So I had it from both perspectives and I definitely was more okay with it being my teacher than I was, you know, you get that parental protective mode. I was just, yeah,
[:[00:01:31] And the second one. That was actually, yeah, it was the same with me. The first one was my, my teacher and then my kid's teacher, the second guy was my parents teacher. And then
[:[00:01:53] It sounded like him when he talked
[:[00:01:57] Hannah Bolden: You know? Uh, [00:02:00] I can't think of another word besides his name to say right now to make that sound.
[:[00:02:12] Yeah. I mean, it's, it's just
[:[00:02:20] Jeff Nesbitt: It's just super upsetting. And I, I like, I w I keep wanting to make it funny, but it's not funny. It's not funny at all. Make it funny. He worked for 30 years for the school.
[:[00:02:31] Hannah Bolden: he work there? That's what I said last night when my parents asked who I was talking about, I'm like, you know, like talk for 30 years, something like that. So I don't know. Yeah. Long time
[:[00:02:46] Right there is probably perfect. Okay. Well, enough of this pedophile talk,
[:[00:02:52] Jeff Nesbitt: It is a horrible Trump. No, I'm feeling like shit about it. I want to just like, forget it exists.
[:[00:03:04] Hey, where do we go? I would've played a sadder song. I
[:[00:03:21] Jeff Nesbitt: I tried to put some soul into it. Yeah. Anyway. Welcome. Welcome. Welcome Hannah Bolden in the flesh. How you been? What are you? You've been working on anything. Cool.
[:[00:03:33] Jeff Nesbitt: late.
[:[00:03:38] Hannah Bolden: probably the same
[:[00:03:45] Hannah Bolden: That's pretty exciting. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, you know, got to clarify whether or not that that was because of this podcast or not.
[:[00:03:55] Jeff Nesbitt: I was going to happen. It was going to happen. Maybe the podcast happened because you were supposed to [00:04:00] meet who knows destiny, not at all destiny, maybe. What do you think, the impact of the podcast was on your relationship?
[:[00:04:13] So people understand start from the beginning. So the beginning actually just like had its one year anniversary the other day. , I had been getting pictures done with my kids. I was looking all fly. You know, I've been single for a few months, more than a few months, but I took this selfie and uh, Colton commented beautiful on it.
[:[00:05:06] For weeks on
[:[00:05:10] Hannah Bolden: Meanwhile, his podcast comes out
[:[00:05:15] Hannah Bolden: and I'm listening to it just to be like, you know what? I obviously misread the signals there. He was just being kind because he clearly did not want to talk to me. So I listen to the podcast and I hear him say like, you guys start talking about how he was maybe gonna move back to Utah.
[:[00:05:52] I did well, he moved in, but still,
[:[00:06:00] Hannah Bolden: said, but you did, like, sometimes it works sometimes, sometimes it's the right thing to do. but then like, I dunno, it's about a month later, Melissa was like, Colton says that he's been talking to you.
[:[00:06:36] Like mine came out on the 13th, the anti love episode. And, uh, he said something on Monday morning. He was like, have a nice day, miss bog water after that joke.
[:[00:07:14] It's easy, but I completely missed it. So, uh, like the movie. So it's like, your name will be bog water. And like, I just immediately thought of Martin from a cranberry marshes and bugs. Yeah. Like funny, funny stuff, bog water. Well, the other day we're on, on this walk, the girls and I, and, and, uh, she goes, it's Bolden where we're the thunder sisters in it.
[:[00:08:04] I'm like what? I'm just like, that was like the funny name. Seventh graders, Noah bongs are. Apparently they do. And seventh grade, no seventh grade. And you would've had no idea what they were talking about, but like different times. And so like the bad part was normally when I make a mistake like that, or like the answer to a math problem is 69 or four 20.
[:[00:08:49]
[:[00:09:01] Jeff Nesbitt: that happened there.
[:[00:09:08] Hannah Bolden: obviously listened to it. Yeah.
[:[00:09:34] And then, so he's like, thought about that for a while until he realized, well, that doesn't really work very well. Cause then I'll just be in Utah and everything else will be the same. And he's like, maybe I'll just let myself be happy and decided to reach out
[:[00:09:51] so like, I don't know, week or two into dating, you had another Jeff and Jeff episode. [00:10:00] And, uh, you started talking about how well Jeff brought it up, that his friend was talking about his blue balls. And, uh, I immediately knew what friend he was talking about. He only has one so true.
[:[00:10:19] Jeff Nesbitt: other than me. Right, right. And he doesn't listen
[:[00:10:38] Well, you know, I was getting ready for a date with Colton. When I heard that and like, I immediately turned beet red, like I'm just at home alone and I'm like, oh, I'm blushing right now. This is so uncomfortable. So, I mean, I doubt anyone has ever had such an experience where you're just like getting ready for a date.
[:[00:11:05] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Yeah. That's a first I've had people tell me the podcast is, well, you know, emotionally, very stirring and you know, inspiring, uh, but not sexually arousing. So that's cool. I'm glad you enjoyed it.
[:[00:11:24] Jeff Nesbitt: it
[:[00:11:29] And I was like, I mean, we know how Colton's always like nervous in the early days. I was yeah. A little bit, but I was like, listen, don't listen to that podcast for a few days. Okay.
[:[00:11:45] Hannah Bolden: is Jeff and Jeff one, like, because he didn't know you had said that, but I did know he's the one who
[:[00:11:52] Right. But like, he didn't know. Well, he didn't know Jeff broadcasted it though. I mean, I broadcasted it. Jeff just said it on the broadcast [00:12:00] and
[:[00:12:05] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, I'm sure those weren't the same blue balls that you dealt with, that he had, that we are discussing. I'm sure that the, as it was a brand new pair of blue balls,
[:[00:12:16] Jeff Nesbitt: days,
[:[00:12:19] Jeff Nesbitt: a day.
[:[00:12:21] Hannah Bolden: all that long, but at any rate. Yeah, I was like, I knew he was coming over within like an hour. I was getting ready and I was like, well, good to know. Good to know. Thanks friends.
[:[00:12:39] Hannah Bolden: Honestly, not really, because I like not to sound mean, but Colton and I really weren't friends.
[:[00:13:04] Jeff Nesbitt: as an adult.
[:[00:13:13] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. I remember. Yeah, it is weird, but yeah, it was totally like re meeting a new person.
[:[00:13:29] Sweatshirts, but. This is my second podcast today. So podcasts. So I'm like trying to, who was first? My groove Cooper, Cooper. Belisle he came
[:[00:13:45] Jeff Nesbitt: favorites. It was really good. Yeah. He's a fun guy to hang out with. He's very
[:[00:13:52] He's such a likable feller that it made me happy to hear all the things that he'd been doing.
[:[00:14:02] Hannah Bolden: I'll tell him hi right now. Hi Cooper. I'm sure he's listening. He probably is. He's a huge
[:[00:14:13] April 9th, April 9th. I'll be there. So I've heard.
[:[00:14:22] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, cool. Blue.
[:[00:14:27] Jeff Nesbitt: Colton. Better not try to wear brown pants again. Jeez.
[:[00:14:34] Jeff Nesbitt: whatever it was.
[:[00:14:43] Hannah Bolden: trying to wear black. He was supposed to wear brown.
[:[00:14:47] Hannah Bolden: blue. You were all wearing blue pants with brown shoes because Alex was supposed to be the only one in black.
[:[00:14:55] Jeff Nesbitt: tux. Yeah, but everyone was saying Colton, he was trying to wear brown [00:15:00] pants. That was the rumor. Oh
[:[00:15:07] Jeff Nesbitt: shoes. That fucking asshole
[:[00:15:11] Jeff Nesbitt: Brown shoe. Yeah. He's so cheap. Yeah. Speaking about GPS, you got a pretty nice ring.
[:[00:15:32] Yeah. It's cool. Yeah. And you've already done it so you can tell them how to do it. Everybody wins. I'm
[:[00:15:39] Jeff Nesbitt: different way or you can tell them how not
[:[00:15:48] Jeff Nesbitt: It seems like you guys do the blended family pretty well. Yeah.
[:[00:16:23] In the picture. Totally fine. He actually is like better at it than me because he comes in with less pent up rage. I do. And yet he'll help out. I'll say like, oh, sorry. I just don't hate the guy. Cause I'm
[:[00:16:46] That's kind of the way I look at it. I was like, I have nothing against the guy. He's made some cool kids and now I get to raise them. So yeah. Everybody wins again. Right. I guess, That's also like touchy, I guess she had parent [00:17:00] relationships and step parents and all that stuff.
[:[00:17:18] I'm sure you do it. I mean, kinda the joke is always the kid. That actually is your favorite. So it's like not a joke. That might be real. So it's, I'm always worried about that. Like, is this funny to all the kids, but who knows that stuff's probably not traumatizing because. I actually, I had this experience, if you know, you're not your parents' favorite kid, but you don't think they don't love you because of it.
[:[00:17:55] Hannah Bolden: We have a favorite parent. Right.
[:[00:18:09] It's not consistent. Do you have one that you just click with better? You don't have to say which one, but you can. Yeah,
[:[00:18:31] We keep her in check.
[:[00:18:41] Hannah Bolden: off. I wasn't getting, and there's like a lot of people named Mrs. Baker. Yeah. But they're not all
[:[00:18:48] I was really just looking for a segue to talk about the new preschool. Oh yeah.
[:[00:18:53] Jeff Nesbitt: We, uh, we went and visited, uh, the Dylan Jr. Oh, yeah. Community center, uh, where it's at now, where the, in [00:19:00] the building that was clean, the rehab place for awhile, it's still has all the signs up and everything.
[:[00:19:07] Hannah Bolden: pioneer road, that area. Yeah.
[:[00:19:16] Hannah Bolden: place? I think I was like when I was a middle school kid making, right. Oh, maybe that too, but I four H we also used to be forced to make old PayPal cards and go sing for
[:[00:19:27] Yeah, yeah. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. I have some horrible memories of those experiences. We, we did it, not only at my church when I was young, they round us all up, put us in the church van, take us out and make us go hold hands with the olds and just to brighten their day. Right. Then we did the singing thing for in elementary school where we do that.
[:[00:20:08] Hannah Bolden: Has that old people smell. So did they get rid of this. They
[:[00:20:22] Hasn't been an old folks home for a long time. Right?
[:[00:20:27] Jeff Nesbitt: probably. Yeah. Yeah. Oh yeah. We also used to pick a lady up from there to take her to church. Yeah. Name was Marie.
[:[00:20:50] She's in a wheelchair kind of a bigger gal. yeah. More of a Rubenesque rotund type. Right. And just candy now [00:21:00] all the time. Candy, candy, candy.
[:[00:21:12] And uh, one of those faces that will haunt you,
[:[00:21:21] Jeff Nesbitt: find. Old Thickies
[:[00:21:32] Jeff Nesbitt: well, see, this lady didn't seem to want to, but she was doing it anyway. She was not living her best life.
[:[00:21:58] That's
[:[00:22:02] Jeff Nesbitt: no, let me finish tall. Old people. Well, they die. They're like great Danes. I'm worried. Yeah, you should be. Anyway. This old gal loved Hershey's kisses. Oh. And she would stand over in the corner, not stand. She was sitting stand over the corner and go with her toothless mouth from across the room at me, a child and expecting me to come across a room and place the Hershey kisses in her.
[:[00:22:51] Hannah Bolden: would be scarred by them. That's horrible.
[:[00:22:56] Right. Because she's like, suck, suck [00:23:00] it in there. So I'd have to like, try to toss it from a couple inches back then. You're always risking the choking hazard. There. Wasn't
[:[00:23:10] Jeff Nesbitt: treat more like a baby bird. Oh, like a real big one.
[:[00:23:20] She's smacking for it. Oh, that's the Lord. That's terrible.
[:[00:23:42] It's much better. Now
[:[00:23:49] Jeff Nesbitt: there's some money in it big time, but why isn't that a more, uh, sought after business opportunity? People could do that. It, you could do a for-profit school. I think. I [00:24:00] mean, they do in cities,
[:[00:24:06] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Large amounts of investment capital. They don't even know what kids are like. It's kind of true. Otherwise they wouldn't have all that money. Now. There's people who didn't have to work for their money. True. But they probably also still have people to raise their kids for them.
[:[00:24:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's the fanciest word for it? I think now I'm actually glad I don't have that. I don't want someone else raising my kids. No, I like doing it. Even the parts that I don't like, I want to do those parts can be, it can be rough. You have any crazy mom's stories of late? Um,
[:[00:24:56] Jeff Nesbitt: Good. One. That was a doozy you can talk about. Yeah. Let's, [00:25:00] let's do that
[:[00:25:04] Jeff Nesbitt: Uh, I felt worse for you than I mean, he maybe not worse, but I mean, he did have a severe injury, but anyway, tell the story. I
[:[00:25:13] Right. So, you know, we're, we're barbecuing that summer afternoon,
[:[00:25:22] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. And we had smores even. I mean, all the happiness, all the kids are piled on the trampoline. And, um, they're jumping around and Colt says, ah, I broke my arm and starts crying. He also made this sound like a, and I can't do it, but he makes not sound a lot. I would like to preface by saying this, like, just getting pinched by his brother, any little move that he does and like this big whiny thing.
[:[00:26:07] he did break his arm. Um, it was a really good break. Like it, yeah. I, you know, after you guys left and like, well, even as you were like leaving and he didn't stop, like he was taking it very slow.
[:[00:26:25] Hannah Bolden: I was like, okay, no, this is actually real. And I, and
[:[00:26:31] Hannah Bolden: was like, oh, he's not faking it. And, uh, I, I went to talk him into bed and I was like, yeah, we, we gotta get this kid to like the ER, probably, but no one likes the ER. And they're also like, not awesome, you know, never,
[:[00:26:48] Hannah Bolden: you know, and they're notorious for this.
[:[00:26:53] Jeff Nesbitt: So I mean, yeah. There's lots of reasons for that, but that's true.
[:[00:27:00] Jeff Nesbitt: and they're just trying to get shit done fast. Yeah.
[:[00:27:13] We should probably go. And he was adamant, no, don't need to go to the doctor. I'm fine. So I said, oh, well, okay. You can try to go to bed. I think I gave him ibuprofen, but maybe I didn't give him anything. I think I might've tried, but he always refuses anything. He also like for a while, for a lot of years was like afraid of band-aids.
[:[00:27:40] Jeff Nesbitt: them familiar for Christmas as a gift.
[:[00:28:02] I go to sleep and I propped his arm up on a pillow and he fell asleep and he fell asleep that night. And I told Colton like, listen, he's going to wake up within probably two hours in pain and I'm going to go then. But right now he just needed. Relax. He's obviously exhausted, you know, the shock factor, that kind of thing.
[:[00:28:50] I hooked my horse trailer up. Like he's just in the back seat. Like while I'm walking up the trailer, doing all this stuff in my bouncy truck with a trailer, I park the [00:29:00] truck and trailer in Astoria, like 10 blocks away because I make him walk with a broken arm, just hold in it and the other arm. And like they, yeah, they x-rayed it.
[:[00:29:16] Jeff Nesbitt: fine. Did you still kind of think like, sure, maybe a hairline fracture, but it's not broken, broken until
[:[00:29:34] I think it was now. It was
[:[00:29:41] Hannah Bolden: it wasn't the little one.
[:[00:29:45] Hannah Bolden: not good. You could see space between the two. So it's not crazy.
[:[00:29:52] Hannah Bolden: neat. It was crazy. It really freaked him out and he was like, don't show
[:[00:29:56] Yeah, man. I think that stuff's awesome. Like, I always want [00:30:00] them to give me copies of x-rays. I never asked though. I don't know why, especially my x-rays of my head. That shit is bizarre. So I think you get
[:[00:30:07] Hannah Bolden: x-ray
[:[00:30:10] Hannah Bolden: oh yeah, I do. But like, that's not my whole head.
[:[00:30:19] Hannah Bolden: right. That's probably true.
[:[00:30:29] Hannah Bolden: yeah, it is. It's weird, but he, yeah, he, I definitely feel bad. And that was, that was in July or something when it happened.
[:[00:30:58] We had a vacation plan and [00:31:00] we all went in the pool and he just like floated on
[:[00:31:09] Hannah Bolden: I mean, I don't know when he officially moved in, but he pretty much stopped going home pretty quick.
[:[00:31:34] Right. How's that process going with Colton?
[:[00:31:58] Great. I
[:[00:32:17] Hannah Bolden: Um, I mean, I don't know. What do you mean by awkward moment?
[:[00:32:30] Hannah Bolden: Are you telling me I'm on court?
[:[00:32:38] Hannah Bolden: uh, I mean, Lane's just fighting all the time and the stuff he says, he he'll just be like, oh, and April, you're my new dad, stuff like that.
[:[00:33:09] Am I think that Cole has actually gained like probably 10 or 15 pounds since Colton's been around. Like he had a huge growth spurt and he's definitely growing out, preparing for the up right now. And um, they always want, when it's bedtime Colson to slam them on their bed, like wrestlers, he picks him up and does it for fun.
[:[00:33:34] Jeff Nesbitt: also break the bed very soon.
[:[00:33:46] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Boys are a lot more. Active lane girls. Like, I, I don't have to do the wrestling thing with Amelia or, I mean the other kids either, but, [00:34:00] um, yeah, that's gotta be exhausting.
[:[00:34:07] Hannah Bolden: all they want to do. And like, I just, I think at my house, I'm assuming when they're at their dad's house, they wrestle with him too. I'm sure. I would guess. But at my house, it's just like a, no, I'm not going to do it.
[:[00:34:27] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. If they can get him out of the VR headset,
[:[00:34:51] Jeff Nesbitt: Does he actually, can he run it like with the controllers and everything? A
[:[00:35:17] And, uh, he, then he wrapped it and put on it to like all of us from mom. And I was like that, get my name off that he's like, oh, you should take the credits. You're going to love it. And I'm like, no, cause I don't love it. So I don't even know the password to get into it only he does. So if he's not home, like they can't ask me, they can beg.
[:[00:35:48] Jeff Nesbitt: fight. They do create conflict. Yeah, there, yeah. There's lots of what, what is it about them that you're anti video games?
[:[00:35:56] Hannah Bolden: I mean just [00:36:00] teaching and the kids that I know that have video games and how they're tend to, they tend to be the ones that
[:[00:36:11] Hannah Bolden: games and manage it. I managed it so well. I just don't even have them
[:[00:36:20] Hannah Bolden: What's what's the benefit.
[:[00:36:39] Cause it was, it was like, that's what people did. Like you go over to your friend's house, they want to all play video games. And I always just fucking hated watching people play video games. Right. And I didn't love playing them, honestly. It was, I still don't, it's not my thing. But, I am into video games in a weird way because I think the technology is really cool.
[:[00:37:13] Hannah Bolden: I've
[:[00:37:15] Jeff Nesbitt: that. Have you tried that game? I haven't. Oh, you gotta try it.
[:[00:37:20] Hannah Bolden: videos of Colton doing it though. It's fun. He doesn't know. I have those videos.
[:[00:37:41] And it's it. And then it's, it just makes you feel a little bit less uptight. I, I think we get used to really taking ourselves very seriously. It's it's okay to be goofy and it's okay for people to laugh at you. It's okay. Even to not laugh with them, like I'm busy.
[:[00:38:03] Hannah Bolden: fuck. Yeah. Or it's just not that funny.
[:[00:38:10] um, what was I? Oh yeah. I was talking about video games. U S uses the social thing, but also it's good for hand-eye coordination. There's just a lot. Possible in a digital realm. Right? So you can just do a lot of shit.
[:[00:38:32] So I don't know how much time
[:[00:38:36] Hannah Bolden: balance it. So I'm like, no, we can just not have it here.
[:[00:38:49] And it's a bunch of nerd shit. Um, those kids play too much video games, or, I mean, every once in a while, one of those kids is going to be a millionaire because he gets really good at one of [00:39:00] those games. But I mean, the world needs all kinds of people, but, um, as far as like on a broad scale, like what all the kids should do, it's just balance.
[:[00:39:16] Hannah Bolden: world. They also have access to it at my house. Yeah.
[:[00:39:32] Yup.
[:[00:39:51] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah.
[:[00:39:59] I don't
[:[00:40:03] Hannah Bolden: exactly.
[:[00:40:11] Hannah Bolden: was in Costco and I don't know. I don't think it was on a whim. I think it was calculated.
[:[00:40:21] Hannah Bolden: I think it was a calculated move. Okay. You know, speaking of buying stuff on a whim, Colton's not a morning person as you're well aware, right? Yeah. Yeah. Not at all gets angry. I'm making too much noise in the house. Well, he recently purchased this a morning cocktail stuff.
[:[00:40:47] Jeff Nesbitt: I don't know what that
[:[00:41:04] But you know, he's, he's rattling off the nutritional benefits of this stuff. And
[:[00:41:14] Hannah Bolden: think that Facebook marketing just totally got his ass on this. They just know he can't wake up in the morning. Um, yeah. Well today was the first morning. So like he follows the directions.
[:[00:41:34] Jeff Nesbitt: You drink it in bed
[:[00:41:47] Um,
[:[00:41:58] Hannah Bolden: out running. Yeah. [00:42:00] Long before this happens. I can do whatever he wants, but, um, I just found it hilarious. He bought into a gimmick and then when I was like, I was just teasing him, like over the ridiculousness of this shaker.
[:[00:42:19] Jeff Nesbitt: It's okay to just like stuff because it's cool. But
[:[00:42:30] Jeff Nesbitt: I wonder what's in this stuff. Is it just caffeine?
[:[00:42:36] Uh, turmeric. Oh,
[:[00:42:45] Hannah Bolden: Well he likes those gummies. He already eats that all the
[:[00:42:50] Hannah Bolden: me feel sick, like a calmer. Yeah. So I was a little perplexed at why you would want to have that with your wake her up or
[:[00:43:02] Hannah Bolden: morning.
[:[00:43:10] Jeff Nesbitt: legit. Well, it's also a beautiful, I
[:[00:43:23] And like, what he described to me was like a cup of coffee and three supplements he already has on a shelf.
[:[00:43:30] Jeff Nesbitt: I mean, is he getting up and working out?
[:[00:43:39] They're building a new Clatsop county. I don't know jail prison. What's the difference.
[:[00:43:50] Hannah Bolden: probably that
[:[00:43:52] Hannah Bolden: They're building that new and he has to work four tens on that. So he has not been
[:[00:44:01] It's not a,
[:[00:44:06] Jeff Nesbitt: though. The tear down. Shit. Sounds horrible. Well that shit's, we don't talk about someone else's job. . That's dumb. Boring. I'm going to grab a beer. Sounds good. Do you, can I get you anything? Um,
[:[00:44:19] Jeff Nesbitt: Is that a wine cup?
[:[00:44:23] It is wine shaped. It's super stupid. I got it for Christmas.
[:[00:44:32] Hannah Bolden: whiskey. No, this is nice.
[:[00:44:37] Hannah Bolden: burrito. Yeah. No, I listened
[:[00:44:42] Hannah Bolden: Um, but when I saw pictures of it, it didn't look bumpy. It looked painted like in person it's better.
[:[00:44:58] Six
[:[00:45:02] Jeff Nesbitt: myself. This is a supposedly good whiskey. I don't really know my shit. I just listened to the person at the store.
[:[00:45:15] Hannah Bolden: Well, I can update you on, uh, selling my horse and getting a new one.
[:[00:45:31] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. I wouldn't drink it straight myself.
[:[00:45:39] Hannah Bolden: that sounds
[:[00:45:44] Hannah Bolden: If I was thinking of the funniest thing to mix whiskey
[:[00:45:50] Hannah Bolden: just made. Yeah. You know, after hearing diet squirt, I don't know if I can really top it.
[:[00:45:57] Jeff Nesbitt: diet mountain Dew. Would it worked well? That was [00:46:00] better. Mountain dude jokes. That's better. My dad act, oh, you know this, my dad actually drinks, diet mountain Dew. He's probably drank more diet mountain Dew in his life than any other human, um, cause who the fuck?
[:[00:46:26] Hannah Bolden: I think there's um, about the appeal of that skinny can
[:[00:46:32] And the old bottles were skinny too. Are they? I don't know if they still have those. Yeah. And they had like a paper draped on him. Like it's like it's a high class dress. Yeah. I
[:[00:46:42] Jeff Nesbitt: classy. It's like a Virginia slim that you can drink. Yeah, exactly. Look how far you've come, baby. Yeah.
[:[00:47:01] Hannah Bolden: kind of scary. Yeah, I've definitely been convinced to buy things. Lots of times, myself, probably every day. Not cocktail shakers for my bedside though.
[:[00:47:18] Hannah Bolden: What was it?
[:[00:47:22] Hannah Bolden: it'd be a lot cooler, but
[:[00:47:32] Like that's a picture of that pug over there. I want that. Name, your price?
[:[00:47:40] What does N F S T stand for? I know what it is, but what does that stand for? Non
[:[00:48:00] Do you know what a Dao is? No decentralized autonomous organization. They are a new way to organize people and make decisions. So rather than having like, traditionally you have like a centralized entity for decision-making with groups. So like a board or a committee. Right. And they're supposedly representative of the larger group.
[:[00:48:41] Like you can, they're completely customizable and they're ran by smart contracts. So you put the rules in place ahead of time. There is no one who has to keep track of the system. It's just, just goes to who's
[:[00:48:54] Jeff Nesbitt: this, um, lots of people.
[:[00:49:02] Jeff Nesbitt: I'll give you a fun example because there's lots of boring examples of like, they use them for, uh, like coins, cryptocurrency coins that are around finance or healthcare or something boring shit.
[:[00:49:32] So they're like, let's buy it. I don't know what their plan was. Uh, see that's the thing is it could be a bunch of. Political scientists or political historians who, who want to maintain this thing, or it could be a bunch of crazy people who want, who think that if they have a copy and they wide out over some parts, they can change it.
[:[00:49:52] Hannah Bolden: is copies of the constitution. Like there's
[:[00:50:00] Hannah Bolden: It makes me, um, think of that one movie where they, oh, that was the declaration of dependence
[:[00:50:10] Hannah Bolden: Still, just, I'm getting that vibe here from the story you're telling.
[:[00:50:20] Jeff Nesbitt: though. It makes sense. So you wouldn't, you know, create a contract with only one
[:[00:50:31] Jeff Nesbitt: the big fluffy feather pins to fountain. I would've liked it to do that. I like writing.
[:[00:50:41] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. But they, I mean, they didn't have the internet. They weren't Netflix and chilling. Yeah.
[:[00:50:49] Jeff Nesbitt: yellow snow races. Hopefully. Yeah. I don't know. No offense. People of the past, those that are still with us. [00:51:00] Sorry. If you're racist, how many copies of the constitution were printed?
[:[00:51:17] Hannah Bolden: a numbers. Don't lie, man. Numbers don't
[:[00:51:39] Hannah Bolden: mean, the fact that at the Philly voice line,
[:[00:51:42] Hannah Bolden: five minutes ago.
[:[00:51:53] Jeff Nesbitt: dad joke. Yeah, I do those. Yeah. I do embed naturally. They're great though. I like them. Yeah. [00:52:00] Yeah. Um, any way you want it to talk about Nicholas cage, what's your favorite Nick cage film.
[:[00:52:14] Jeff Nesbitt: con
[:[00:52:21] Jeff Nesbitt: all you can think about. Yeah. This is a pretty hard hitting show.
[:[00:52:50] Hannah Bolden: okay.
[:[00:53:10] Late nineties who wasn't, you know, the one off the green mile. I
[:[00:53:15] Jeff Nesbitt: my mind or the one off of Friday, there was not that many giant strong black dudes in Hollywood. All right. Fair enough. There should have been more probably just cause of
[:[00:53:28] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, but uh, yeah. Ving, Rhames. Um, Dave Chappelle first I ever saw him. Yeah. Dave Chappelle, Dave Chappelle
[:[00:53:44] Jeff Nesbitt: I'm sorry. It's called being prepared. This is a professional podcast.
[:[00:53:50] Con air. I know all these people.
[:[00:53:56] Hannah Bolden: True. Yeah, no, I got that
[:[00:54:02] Hannah Bolden: I don't even think I know this many people and I could rattle off about most movies. It's like, I see their face. And I'm like, oh, it's that guy. I remember that guy. I don't remember their name.
[:[00:54:15] Mad about you in 97. Wow. That's impressive. Yeah, it is. I know. That's why I said it on the podcast.
[:[00:54:26] Jeff Nesbitt: cabinet. No, I actually really do love mad about you. It's a great show. Right? Paul riser, Helen Hunt. Come on. Sure. Paul riser was recently in something that was real good.
[:[00:54:50] Hannah Bolden: Do you want me to update you on? Um, you know, I was listening and it it's kind of been actually a crazy year for me. Like I was like [00:55:00] gonna sell my horse. Oh yeah. Let's talk about the horse. I'm going to be single and I want a new job. I did. I did all those things. All three. It
[:[00:55:11] Hannah Bolden: I'm a fourth grade teacher. Okay. Uh,
[:[00:55:24] Hannah Bolden: move. Yeah. Ocean park is, um, definitely. I can say the best school on the peninsula, best
[:[00:55:33] Yeah. Whole
[:[00:55:42] Jeff Nesbitt: the best
[:[00:55:48] Jeff Nesbitt: cool actually really cool school.
[:[00:55:55] And that was the only one that didn't out of my cousins, like, oh, she thinks she's [00:56:00] too good. And going to long
[:[00:56:15] And like, when we all got together at Hilltop, it was noticeable. Oh yeah. And that's where, you know, the wheat was separated from the chaff, because if you were cool for motion park, you had the challenge of, of the mesh. When you get with the long beach kids, you were cool at long beach you're you were in like, there was like, people were already talking about ya.
[:[00:56:47] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. Just picturing who fits into those categories. Yeah.
[:[00:56:57] Experience their potential because of, [00:57:00] of kids are
[:[00:57:21] We have kindergarten through second grade, the whole peninsula. Yeah. It's mixed. Now we've gotten rid of that. And some people still say that's a bad thing. I don't think it's a bad thing.
[:[00:57:34] Hannah Bolden: They might
[:[00:57:40] Hannah Bolden: Right. And I'm sure it is for people, but I don't know it, I saw it from a teacher's perspective. And you could tell which kids were, which a lot of the time, and we don't have to have that problem anymore.
[:[00:58:07] Jeff Nesbitt: a long, eight years. A long time you get to know people well, in that time garden. Yeah. I I've had people who I knew who were in every class I had from preschool through 12th grade.
[:[00:58:25] Hannah Bolden: Was he an ocean park kid? I thought he was a, he
[:[00:58:39] I wonder how she's doing shout out to Bethany if you're listening.
[:[00:58:47] Jeff Nesbitt: love babies. Might have a baby. Oh yeah. Are you talking about that?
[:[00:58:54] Jeff Nesbitt: to this. I'm super curious. Fill me in what's.
[:[00:59:00] Hannah Bolden: well, the deeds are under then. I had my tubes tied after lane. So, um, you know, they say tubes tied, which is really like, not an accurate description of what actually happens in that
[:[00:59:16] They really are
[:[00:59:36] Like I made a really bad joke. I mean, it was before that, I knew that my whole marriage was about to like implode and uh, I was like, yeah, I'm getting my tubes tied. Either way when we get a divorce, I'm good to go. And like, she like outburst of laughter like this not okay. And I was like five months later, like
[:[01:00:00] Hannah Bolden: level probably.
[:[01:00:21] Cause that's key. No one woman
[:[01:00:25] Hannah Bolden: That's just the pathway. And I said, I want them removed. I want them gone. I don't want to chance that these babies are coming back. And uh, my doctor was like, that's pretty severe. Like, we don't really do that unless we're in there for another reason, I didn't have a C-section or anything.
[:[01:00:48] Jeff Nesbitt: So she eventually convinced her. I did not.
[:[01:01:02] Asian guy named Phil. She made this clip. You put the clamp on, it's like a little chip clip for your pathway.
[:[01:01:10] Hannah Bolden: So, you know, what's up. Wait, do they use the same fill sheet clip?
[:[01:01:21] Hannah Bolden: That would be interesting. I always like to know exactly what's happening when I have something done. So like I knew all these and I've researched like people's clips coming loose. I do a lot of bouncy activities. I ran, I did run. Like I was like, what if that baby shakes loose? What if there's a chip clip floating around in there seems bad.
[:[01:02:02] I was like, well, you should. So anyway, I had my tubes tied. Fast-forward all this life happens. Colton has no kids. Um, and I didn't really know how that conversation was going to go. Were you nervous about that? I was a little nervous about that. That's a big deal. It was a very big deal. Um, maybe the biggest rat and it was like the easiest conversation ever.
[:[01:02:44] If you don't want to have another kid, it doesn't change the way I feel I'm still staying. And it was like, I was like, well, and I don't know if I want to have another kid, but am I? And it was very much like either way, it's not a deal breaker. I can have a kid for you, or you could not have a kid for me [01:03:00] and things aren't changing.
[:[01:03:01] Jeff Nesbitt: that's healthy. That sounds great. It was, yeah, it was the best way
[:[01:03:21] Like we we're barely dating and I don't even like you, you know, you're like unsure, but I was like, you know, Colton and I have a real struggle with holding anything back, super, both oversharers on a regular basis, which is great because you know, you don't have to guess it is great. I like that too. It's super great.
[:[01:03:52] Jeff Nesbitt: getting real. Shit's getting real. Wow. That's cool. It is cool. Since you've had your tubes tied, there's been no followup [01:04:00] surgeries to that.
[:[01:04:02] Hannah Bolden: I'm clamped up the plant
[:[01:04:08] What kind of, uh, how invasive are we talking for a D
[:[01:04:28] Jeff Nesbitt: you know, so we're going to outsource,
[:[01:04:33] Wait, what do you mean by outsource surrogate? Oh, no, I'm going to do it, but you don't have to like block or you don't have to unblock that passageway IVF, um, which stands for in vitro fertilization. They, um, they're just going to treat it like I'm infertile and need that, that intervention, even though not you like go through the round of horrible hormones that they pump you.
[:[01:05:01] Jeff Nesbitt: instead of the egg coming from the ovary down the fallopian tube, into the uterus where it implants the fallopian tubes gone, they just take the egg, mix it up in a test tube and implant it in your uterus and let it attach. Yeah. Yeah.
[:[01:05:20] Like I'm a person with a fertility issue, which. As far as I know, I'm not having had real easy time
[:[01:05:29] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. So, uh, you know, they'll just fertilize the eggs in a
[:[01:05:36] Hannah Bolden: And then implant them crazy part too. Like you can play God. Some, some doctors is pretty controversial, but they'll they'll know the sex of the embryo.
[:[01:05:47] like genetic testing. I don't know. They full on genetic test all and make sure they're okay.
[:[01:05:52] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. You know, the, um, like the genetic test you have at like 12 weeks of pregnancy or whatever, they're like already doing that on an
[:[01:06:00] Yeah. Probably. I mean, I wonder how many cells you need to get it to run. Not
[:[01:06:15] Jeff Nesbitt: hope you do have twins. I hope they are wrong. I think that would be great. I don't think so.
[:[01:06:26] Hannah Bolden: help this situation.
[:[01:06:32] Hannah Bolden: I'm probably in a pay off the doctor to put in the girl in Brooklyn.
[:[01:06:40] Hannah Bolden: there's enough.
[:[01:06:56] Jeff Nesbitt: was a cheerleader in high school. I remember that flyer ideal
[:[01:07:00] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Do you need a jockey?
[:[01:07:05] Hannah Bolden: I mean, probably not, but it doesn't hurt. It doesn't hurt to be a lightweight athletic rider. Yeah. I got the athletic part. I do not have the lightweight part going for me.
[:[01:07:19] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. You ever run with, you know, 50 pounds on your back and you take off 20 and notice that it's easier with 30.
[:[01:07:29] Jeff Nesbitt: right. Yup. I mean, they're really strong, but sure.
[:[01:07:43] Jeff Nesbitt: pretty cool. So when do you, when you go in for your fertility appointment, uh,
[:[01:07:48] Jeff Nesbitt: March.
[:[01:07:49] Hannah Bolden: exciting. Yeah, they have a, and for our wedding, like we don't really need anything. We already have a house and I was like, I have my cousins, Lacey and Katie, like, [01:08:00] there's a group message going on. What do you do? It's so awkward to me that whole like registering for gifts and stuff. I hate it.
[:[01:08:12] Jeff Nesbitt: right
[:[01:08:18] It's
[:[01:08:27] Hannah Bolden: know. So we're not rich as what you just, I just
[:[01:08:40] Um, it's, it's just, it's who I am. Right. But being a poor fat guy, who's in pretty good shape and he's got money is not so bad. Keeps me having a pretty good perspective. Level-headed
[:[01:09:01] We don't want presence if you feel so compelled, why don't you pay for it? All right. Yeah.
[:[01:09:17] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. Yeah. Who would buy such a thing?
[:[01:09:24] Delicious. Who has the
[:[01:09:28] Jeff Nesbitt: I wouldn't know if the pizza is delicious. I've never had it never even been invited to have any
[:[01:09:36] Jeff Nesbitt: No, it's, it's not, it's nothing. I probably shouldn't even talk about it.
[:[01:09:49] Hannah Bolden: Yeah, it's a good point. Oh, Hey, come my pizza.
[:[01:09:55] Hannah Bolden: I was actually thinking about her this morning. They're like the best people notice how it went.
[:[01:10:01] Jeff Nesbitt: was thinking about him all the time.
[:[01:10:05] Jeff Nesbitt: a good one too though. They're they're great. Shout out to max. Yes. Love you guys.
[:[01:10:20] And if you know me, and if you're listening to the podcast about how I, uh, got to know my IVF, then you'll understand. But if they don't know this feeling, I don't know why, but they want money. We're not quite sure
[:[01:10:42] That's low ball in it these days. Right. I saw some elephants the other day, 500 traits, 500. You're never going to find one that's the same, but I think 200 for babies is probably good. You meant these NFTs make it a really limited release. Like we're talking 3000 and I don't know, charge, like, I [01:11:00] don't know, five or $600 a piece eight or nine at the most, but just make sure they're cheap.
[:[01:11:28] And I mean, you're going to get, people will buy it. I mean, make sure it's deflationary. Obviously there'll be a burn. Like once a year you do a token burn. That's where like you're able to trade in your baby token for like, you can trade it in and you got to trade in two and you get one of these like toddler tokens, you know?
[:[01:12:05] Oh, you veto that shit. Okay. We don't need any more
[:[01:12:11] Jeff Nesbitt: your body, your choice? He wants a boy.
[:[01:12:22] Jeff Nesbitt: I have a feeling that there's no way he's going to win that.
[:[01:12:34] Hannah Bolden: Time will tell. Well, we're copying the Nesbitt, so it makes sense if our child was. Yeah, but we
[:[01:12:47] All good? Yeah. Maybe a little of both who knows Jake did your
[:[01:12:54] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. Thank God. I didn't have to name her Stanton. The fourth. I'm fortunate. I wouldn't have [01:13:00] done it. I don't think so. That's good. What do you think for names? You got any ideas?
[:[01:13:14] So I already used it up. Yeah. They're both going to be Ivy. And now Ivy.
[:[01:13:38] I think the one where she plays poison Ivy. Definitely.
[:[01:13:53] Jeff Nesbitt: thing. I think she would have been just fine. I think she would have been enormous.
[:[01:14:04] Hannah Bolden: Well, I'm just saying there, like, that would be an unnecessarily.
[:[01:14:23] It's a good thing. They like sports because the sports programs around here will benefit from having some giant
[:[01:14:37] That's a feat, you know, like kids are just gonna be like towering over me.
[:[01:14:52] Hannah Bolden: hopefully not
[:[01:15:02] Sorry. Um, well actually, no, I do want to talk about it. So,
[:[01:15:34] In light of what I had just found out. So. Yeah, that's where I was, but don't take it. To, you know, don't be offended or anything. I don't think men are bad. I think men are really great.
[:[01:15:56] So I was going to take this out. But I decided [01:16:00] I better just leave it because that's what I would want. If I was a listener, I'd want to hear this part. So. This is what I was feeling in the moment. It's not necessarily what I feel right now or anything like that, but I'm going to let you guys listen to it anyway. Just me being real.
[:[01:16:33] Right? Totally. There was a time when men were not seen in professions like childcare education, true areas where they might end up spending one-on-one time with children. Yeah. And it was just like common knowledge. Like, no, obviously the men won't do that job and we have kind of grown to think that it was because the society just placement on a pedestal and they were, you know, they were, they were the doctors.
[:[01:17:16] Hannah Bolden: Oh fucking
[:[01:17:23] And it's like, that's a sad thought
[:[01:17:27] Jeff Nesbitt: might be on to something. It is a sad thought because it, it, it goes right against what I actually believe in, or want to believe about any galitary in utopian society, where we are actually just equal and the gender differences are, you know, negligible.
[:[01:17:53] Hannah Bolden: That's really true. That's it? That sucks. That's a, there's a bad statistic that you just [01:18:00] made up there.
[:[01:18:04] I actually, if I'm recalling, I believe it's like 98%. It is. It's very high, all crimes committed by men.
[:[01:18:14] So for some real crime statistics that I did not make up. We'll go to Wikipedia. In 2014, more than 73% of those arrested in the U S were males.
[:[01:18:51] And that study showed the following.
[:[01:19:14] And women. Or are we looking at a fair justice system that has pinpointed the main offenders? To be a little column, a little column B. But it does say on the very next line, white females of all ages had the lowest conviction rates of any racial groups.
[:[01:19:34] So Karen's, aren't out there getting arrested. Huh?
[:[01:19:43] But this flips the script. Doesn't it guys.
[:[01:19:47] Males were more likely to be murder victims to, oh, there's a good one. K. So males are 76.8%. More likely to be victims of murder. [01:20:00]
[:[01:20:13] according to arrest data from the FBI in 2011. Males constituted 98.9% of those arrested for forcible rape. Well, that makes sense. How does a woman forcibly rape somebody? Don't answer that. Males constituted 87.9% of those arrested for robbery. Males constituted 85% of those arrested for burglary.
[:[01:20:59] But we already knew that.[01:21:00]
[:[01:21:02] It's a little more convoluted than we thought. It's not so black and white. The statistics are a little more. Gray area, but for the vast majority of crimes, the perpetrators. Have a Dick.
[:[01:21:21] Jeff Nesbitt: And that's not saying that all men are evil, but out of all evil people, most of them are men. True. That's that's all that's saying. Yeah. But that's a lot to think about. And I let's, let's, I'm a man full disclosure.
[:[01:21:50] Hannah Bolden: It's true. They said, you know, horrible for anyone trying to date right now. That's a bad thought [01:22:00] who you can meet Aiden.
[:[01:22:17] Hannah Bolden: It's a very big
[:[01:22:30] It's awkward. But like, if we just found out about this news yesterday of somebody we know who's in trouble now for, that is not the first time that's happened this year. So, which is mind boggling.
[:[01:22:45] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, serendipitous. Yeah. Blessing in disguise or someone for you
[:[01:22:54] Jeff Nesbitt: getting rid of that shit.
[:[01:23:09] Hannah Bolden: You know, I think back to like, when you talk about your families, like gratitude text, I love that you have kids old enough to participate in that.
[:[01:23:36] And, um, November was gratitude month and I had this little gratitude wall and I would just like make their entry tasks the whole month put a little sticky note on their destiny is like pop something down. They're grateful for that day. And I said like, something's going to be really small. Like just like cinnamon toast crunch this morning, man.
[:[01:24:16] Like we won't let negativity get rid of our gratitude wall. Like I'm not going to end it. I'm not going to quit putting sticky notes, but you should, you should be better. Yeah. This morning, we're trying to meditate. I won't stop standing up and clapping during meditation.
[:[01:24:37] I can get behind one single clap. That's funny.
[:[01:24:42] Jeff Nesbitt: little, yeah, to me, that's a good one. It wasn't good. One clap.
[:[01:24:53] Jeff Nesbitt: around. Like if you're going to continue to take attention from the activity, I'm not okay with it, but I love [01:25:00] a little, a little shakeup in the day.
[:[01:25:03] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. This particular shake up, happens all the time. So I was pretty over it. Come up. We've got five minutes of happiness right now, but let's
[:[01:25:21] How do you feel about that?
[:[01:25:31] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. They don't understand context. Yeah. That's it takes a while. Oh God. If I, if I was to take an honest look back at my own childhood and my own experimentation in humor, right.
[:[01:25:50] Hannah Bolden: See, there was this kid. He, uh, he he's. He does a lot of things and the kids know what he does on a regular [01:26:00] basis. And they're like, you know, they, they just kind of like, ignore it at this point.
[:[01:26:28] They haven't been doing it. And he just like cleverly was like, true. You know what? This is having a good week, but it would appear he's returned to his natural habitat. And it was so funny, like when a nine year old comes up with that and it was like, you're not supposed to laugh. I'm like he has returned to his natural habitat.
[:[01:26:59] Hannah Bolden: [01:27:00] kid, but sounds a little familiar. If
[:[01:27:15] And, um, the teacher would just let us be me. Oh, that's terrible. Yeah. I mean, he was a shit of a kid, but still, um, but we definitely made it worse by, by berating him and torturing him behind the wall. Horrible. Shout out Paul Mormon or no Gibson. Paul Gibson. That sounds familiar. Paul Mormon another kid from that same era who also moved away shortly thereafter.
[:[01:27:48] Hannah Bolden: I regret it. Definitely aren't like that. Like they were coming from a supportive place. Like they're like, we're just getting on a bay. He's doing his thing, you know, they're very like, no, I'm glad that doesn't happen.
[:[01:28:01] Jeff Nesbitt: well, you would have had to have orchestrated it. I didn't bring those partitions,
[:[01:28:08] Jeff Nesbitt: don't have a bad kids area. No. Yeah. They don't. You don't see that a lot anymore.
[:[01:28:14] Jeff Nesbitt: They don't let you do the solitary confinement of
[:[01:28:20] Jeff Nesbitt: It's everyone's just running a muck. speaking of running a muck, you fall in politics lately.
[:[01:28:29] Hannah Bolden: No, not at all. In the running, since you're talking about running a muck, I was like, oh, this will be more exciting. And then you went to politics.
[:[01:28:47] So I was just going to, I was going to lay it out there for you audience to hear, but if you don't want to hear about it, it's okay. Let's talk about running. Let's just talk about running. Oh, I signed up for hood to coast. Hm. [01:29:00]
[:[01:29:03] Jeff Nesbitt: I know. But maybe in two years you do it again.
[:[01:29:07] Hannah Bolden: fun. I don't, it doesn't sound fun to me. Yeah. I guess it's not that fun. I mean that one, that one time we did the Washington hood, the coast, I got a human shit on my foot.
[:[01:29:28] All right.
[:[01:29:36] Jeff Nesbitt: Isabella state park for hoodie, coasts, Washington 20, I don't know.
[:[01:29:51] Closer. Okay. Sorry. A long line of, uh, port-a-potties always huge line, you know, but you [01:30:00] notice how it's never enough. Port-a-potties like you show up to a place and you're like, Jesus Christ, whom you the 150 port-a-potties and then they're still alive. People show up. Yeah, there's a line anyway, all these porta-potties dark field.
[:[01:30:28] Jeff Nesbitt: It was important on the day too. You made sure to mention that
[:[01:30:34] Uh, because honestly
[:[01:30:38] Hannah Bolden: but it's important because if it was my own shit, it would be embarrassing and gross, but this story is just flat out gross, which makes it funny. Yeah, exactly. Cause if I
[:[01:30:52] Hannah Bolden: creative, like tricky.
[:[01:31:13] What is this? And I looked down on my shoe on the side of my face. Undoubtedly a shit on it. There were no dogs and it didn't have the dog shit odor, you know, the difference or the look. I mean, it was clearly human shit and, uh, yeah, I just was like, I have, uh, but we had to like get to the next checkpoint, so I didn't have you stop.
[:[01:31:42] Jeff Nesbitt: upfront. Nope. Where were you sitting?
[:[01:31:57] So at this point it's just [01:32:00] on the mesh part on the side of my shoe approaching my sock, dangerously close, like
[:[01:32:09] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. And like, you know, running shoes are all mesh. Like that shit was going to get it, you know, the surface area there. Yeah. So like I got out and I started gagging and I was like, get up, get me a baby wipe now.
[:[01:32:42] That's a mystery is that's gross. Yeah.
[:[01:32:50] Hannah Bolden: I didn't want to shoot, but we're about to do hood to coast, Washington. I haven't even ran yet. And that is my only pair of running shoes for the whole day. They [01:33:00] got a baby wipe and I had to wear human shit on my foot all day.
[:[01:33:06] Hannah Bolden: I also remember how I said, I don't want to bring it up again, but you were like, well for not wanting to bring it up again. You sure I'm bringing it up? Yeah. Which I probably did. It
[:[01:33:27] It's like, everyone just understands it too. Once you've done it a few times. It's like not even surprising.
[:[01:33:46] We're not real runners lost toenails, but I did become a runner this year.
[:[01:33:56] Hannah Bolden: a race
[:[01:34:04] Hannah Bolden: Is this a, is this a surprise?
[:[01:34:09] Hannah Bolden: happening and it did.
[:[01:34:30] Hey, let him see that way. No, no, but he was gone, so it's fine.
[:[01:34:44] Hannah Bolden: no, it was horrible. I was home. I wasn't attracted to my own self.
[:[01:34:51] And anyone who says they haven't is a liar. Well,
[:[01:35:00] Jeff Nesbitt: That's a very good record. Yeah. That's astronomically more for me. I'd say, I'd say I shit myself. I don't know. Once every two to three years
[:[01:35:16] Jeff Nesbitt: Oh, exactly.
[:[01:35:33] Now we're adults. Fuck sake. Oh man. Um, but yeah, no, I, I had added at least 20 minutes to my time, , when I ran the Portland marathon, because I resisted going to the bathroom for way too long. Right. And it made me run slow. And then I eventually was just like, I just gotta give in, I gotta do it. I gotta do it.
[:[01:36:04] Hannah Bolden: Awful. I've never done that either.
[:[01:36:07] Hannah Bolden: I'm good. Jake gold actually was talking about hood to coast again last year. And you know, Jake's funny, just even keeled demeanor, he was like, didn't you shit yourself?
[:[01:36:37] Jeff Nesbitt: Nope. And then Nope. Clear that up. I got to grab something to drink.
[:[01:37:11] And he got me to put one in my house when I was doing my living room renovation. And, you know, I've forgiven him obviously, but it's, it's hard sometimes because, uh, when I woke up at 3:00 AM on Christmas morning and it was 40 degrees in my house, cadet heater didn't work. I thought I should probably text Colton.
[:[01:37:45] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. I mean, I feel like that's part of, oh
[:[01:37:51] Hannah Bolden: I feel like you've forgiven him on that.
[:[01:38:01] Jeff Nesbitt: the house job. Yeah, he eventually did. He pulled through eventually hold through. I didn't do it. I, you know, I wouldn't, I'm gonna, wouldn't tell Angie's list, but right. Three stars, girlfriends to take all your time to do like side jobs.
[:[01:38:43] It's all. I really,
[:[01:38:54] Jeff Nesbitt: temporarily till you're married. Yeah. Okay. That's cute. I
[:[01:39:00] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. That's that's accurate.
[:[01:39:11] Hannah Bolden: pylon email. Oh yeah,
[:[01:39:24] Hannah Bolden: But now I just skipped Bolden that whole like five-year period of having my name back. We'll just pretend it didn't happen. I'll just switch to chakra now. Will
[:[01:39:34] Hannah Bolden: I mean, I liked the name, bolded you name. It is. And you know, I feel like most people and maybe I'm being a little bit like boastful here, but most people feel like Boldens have this like good old boy vibe, almost people around
[:[01:39:52] It's the cowboy vibe.
[:[01:40:03] Jeff Nesbitt: you're right. It's just a, it's a vibe though, for sure. Yeah. It's a gregariousness, but not, not, but not too much.
[:[01:40:16] Really?
[:[01:40:19] Hannah Bolden: oh, but if you Google it, they're all not white.
[:[01:40:42] The second thing is Bolden 2019. I am DB. The mythical account of the life of buddy Bolden, A black jazz musician the first cornet king of new Orleans. .
[:[01:40:56] Hannah Bolden: Which leads me to how that happened. Well, I I'm, I'm [01:41:00] fairly certain and ancestry DNA is going to back me up on this, that, uh, my grandpa Bolden, who is now deceased. Um, I'm pretty sure that's where it came from.
[:[01:41:30] Jeff Nesbitt: it was where it came from.
[:[01:41:35] Hannah Bolden: I know his parents weren't, but I mean, he was from Minnesota. Like just when you look at history and the, the, um, obvious, close connection with timeline of slavery and all of these things, I'm just pretty certain, also his middle names Browns.
[:[01:42:02] That's cool. Yeah. Well, I was hoping there was something in there for me like that, but no, nothing to be found. Yeah.
[:[01:42:22] Jeff Nesbitt: It's gotta be, it's gotta be that's cool.
[:[01:42:27] Jeff Nesbitt: everything. What an exciting time to be alive. I
[:[01:42:37] Jeff Nesbitt: I was just looking at it
[:[01:42:42] Jeff Nesbitt: You know, what's really crazy.
[:[01:43:10] That is crazy.
[:[01:43:15] Jeff Nesbitt: So like if the, if 100% would be identical twins, right. And 0%, is there a 0%? Is there, is that possible?
[:[01:43:25] Jeff Nesbitt: exactly. Then are you even brother and sister? I was like, good question. It's crazy. Even you are. Cause it's still the same.
[:[01:43:38] Hannah Bolden: Yeah. That's a good
[:[01:43:45] Hannah Bolden: I wish I had siblings. So this would be cooler. My results are going to be pretty
[:[01:43:56] Hannah Bolden: you gotta be careful when you talk about this these days, you find out that speeding. [01:44:00] Oh yeah.
[:[01:44:06] Hannah Bolden: Yeah, no, I'll say I can't think of any siblings that don't look, I know it's hard.
[:[01:44:26] Jeff Nesbitt: That changes though with age, like they go up and down, like, they'll look a lot alike at certain stages.
[:[01:44:36] Hannah Bolden: I mean, you and your siblings are all like very noticeably
[:[01:44:40] Hannah Bolden: but the Nesbitt look. Yeah. And Amelia got it. And all of your kids have it so far.
[:[01:44:48] It's it's the
[:[01:44:53] Jeff Nesbitt: very Melissa. She, she is, she's built
[:[01:44:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Nesbit. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure [01:45:00] even what it is, but it's, it's definitely there.
[:[01:45:04] Jeff Nesbitt: cross though. Yeah. I think it worked out well for sure.
[:[01:45:21] Hannah Bolden: It's so exciting. Now. I know what you mean. Like, I was always so excited with Colt every time it's like, oh, we get, I get to go be the parent at a conference.
[:[01:45:35] Jeff Nesbitt: Like check out what I made.
[:[01:45:48] And I was raised like, he treated me like his grandkid really crazy story. This was a, you know, grandpa from Florida. Remember the Russian people and [01:46:00] yeah, weird, weird stories. It continues. But anyway,
[:[01:46:14] Does a thing brought in a wife from overseas. Yeah,
[:[01:46:40] My real grandparents were divorced and remarried three times, which to me is like death definition of insanity. Like you keep repeating the same thing and thinking it's going to change. But anyway, they did that divorced, remarried, divorced, remarried. And my mom was apparently the [01:47:00] one conceived in a time where they weren't exactly together.
[:[01:47:28] Jeff Nesbitt: or you don't have a, one of his fingernails or something.
[:[01:47:31] Hannah Bolden: my grandma's just like, of course your father is your father. And like, that was the answer, but my grandpa also left our lives. And so it was like, coincidentally, he gets hit on the head and is now remembering this stuff from the early days where he thinks my mom saw his anymore. And so I actually, hadn't seen my grandma, my grandpa for 11 years until last Sunday.
[:[01:48:10] One twin says, I refuse. I'm not taking that. Like, this is no you're on no, that's a goal to dad. Like, and the other one's like, well, I'll take it. And I'm like, well, jokes, jokes on you. Cause you have the same DNAs. But uh, she got the ball rolling and she took it. And as soon as she got her results back, my grandpa's sister came back as her aunt.
[:[01:48:51] So I'm excited to take it for that reason too. And just like see the rest of it. But that's why my mom took it. Wow.
[:[01:49:01] Hannah Bolden: Well, my mom, like that was the weird part was he just treated her different, but like wouldn't really acknowledge it either and didn't talk about it. So my mom's casual way to drop it into conversation when she talked to him was, um, cause he's supposed to be a hundred percent finish.
[:[01:49:39] I came up as, as, uh, my aunt. And why am I 76% finished? Like, shouldn't I be 50% of you were a hundred. And like, mom was probably, you know, none. And he just like to wear that way. He got this information without me, like, by the way, I was taking this to confirm that year, my dad asshole.
[:[01:50:00] Hannah Bolden: respond?
[:[01:50:05] Jeff Nesbitt: He wouldn't. I would be so curious. How could he not be? I know, I guess shame. Probably the shame probably. Yeah. It'd be the shame. I think. I mean,
[:[01:50:20] Jeff Nesbitt: imagine if you treated your daughter worse, her entire life, that's a good point.
[:[01:50:28] Hannah Bolden: as it turns out, my mom's like literally the best of her siblings.
[:[01:50:37] other
[:[01:50:37] Jeff Nesbitt: so I don't know them, but your mom's cool. Yeah. Wow.
[:[01:50:47] And so I'm interested to see how finished I am.
[:[01:51:05] So I go through and there's hundreds of people who I'm related to on here. I don't know any, any of them. Wow.
[:[01:51:24] Hannah Bolden: That's interesting. Or you, so you think
[:[01:51:30] I
[:[01:51:51] So I just can't wait to, like, I'm going to start forcing my family members to take it to like, who's like me, which one of you,
[:[01:52:05] Hannah Bolden: more. You can fuck up a family function real
[:[01:52:07] You can, but it shouldn't like truth is always
[:[01:52:15] Jeff Nesbitt: yeah. Is it about and Yeah,
[:[01:52:22] Jeff Nesbitt: awesome because they're friends. So it's like, it's a good story. It is a good story.
[:[01:52:31] Hannah Bolden: story. It was a really great story. And I knew about it for like six months. I was in the like small group of people before if they like told well, both of their dads, I guess, but you know, like, Hey, just thought I'd let you know, I'm your kid.
[:[01:52:46] Jeff Nesbitt: that, that must've been an interesting conversation.
[:[01:52:57] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. I don't, I don't like knowing secrets. [01:53:00] I just forget them right away. I really do. When people tell me stuff, it's just, it's gone.
[:[01:53:32] Not a big deal at all. Not a big deal. , we have about five minutes left. I want to make sure I didn't forget anything important.
[:[01:53:40] Jeff Nesbitt: I know we brought it up several times.
[:[01:53:48] Jeff Nesbitt: We got a few minutes. Well, when
[:[01:54:02] Jeff Nesbitt: biting people or something. Hey,
[:[01:54:06] Jeff Nesbitt: like advertise that though.
[:[01:54:27] Jeff Nesbitt: I couldn't get him to
[:[01:54:32] Jeff Nesbitt: racing. No
[:[01:54:44] Jeff Nesbitt: maybe he's just past his
[:[01:54:47] He's like in his prime, I got him to his prime and sold him at his best, like the day that the last race I had on him, not knowing that it was going to be the last like this, he matched his PR again. He was right up there.
[:[01:55:04] Hannah Bolden: He is. And I think that he might like be mad at me. Like, I'll be interesting to know if like he comes across and be like how he feels about the situation.
[:[01:55:22] Oh
[:[01:55:24] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. He probably still loves you. I bet you, it would be. I bet you anything. He would probably
[:[01:55:40] Here's what I did again. And I'll talk to the new owner because I had him for so long and uh, he's back in Warrenton. So I'm actually probably going to go visit him soon and I'm kind of going to visit him. I'm terrified of like what his reaction's going to be.
[:[01:55:57] You're going to see your exit. Fred Meyer. [01:56:00] I
[:[01:56:09] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah. The emotion, the connection you can have with animals is so much stronger than I even knew until I had to put my dog down.
[:[01:56:54] It felt validating to be like, ah, what a real human emotional experience I'm having here. [01:57:00] So on that level, I kind of like, I could see the value in it. It felt kind of cleansing. Like I don't just sit around and cry often. It, I did that with my dog and she's dying and it felt good. It felt really good.
[:[01:57:19] Jeff Nesbitt: just realizing that I've, uh, this is the second podcast today that I've ended by talking about my dead dog.
[:[01:57:26] Jeff Nesbitt: let's
[:[01:57:30] I cried a bunch, like thinking about selling them and coming to the conclusion that it was time for me to move on. And I cried, like, just thinking about him leaving. And then when I found him this home, I was so sure that it was the best case scenario was this older lady. I was like, he's going to take care of her as it turned out, he rolled over the top, over the
[:[01:57:53] Oh,
[:[01:58:12] He looked happy. Things were great. He wrote off in the trailer and I didn't cry. I did not have a tear. And that was like, I watched him, I didn't get to watch him be born. I was there within like the first eight hours. Cause I was in college. I had that horse from the time he was just a little tiny baby and I didn't have a tear the day he left.
[:[01:58:37] Jeff Nesbitt: loft. So were you on Zoloft by chance? I was on Zoloft. No, no. Antidepressants Prozac. Well, they make you not cry. That's that's their whole, that's
[:[01:58:56] Jeff Nesbitt: Yeah, exactly. That, Hey, it did its
[:[01:59:03] Jeff Nesbitt: She's very awesome. Horses are cool. You have actually kind of opened my eyes to that. I, uh, they've always been, I've always thought they were cool as like, you know, from afar. Um, but it never really wanted to interact with them.
[:[01:59:22] Hannah Bolden: She gave birth to her baby on March 21st and I gave birth to my child on July 21st, but I feel like it's another one.
[:[01:59:32] Hannah Bolden: thing we both had to go through misery on the 21st of a month.
[:[01:59:36] Jeff Nesbitt: numerology behind all that stuff. You could find something. Yeah. Google that Google the numerology at 21. And you'll find something that you relate to. I'm sure exactly.
[:[01:59:47] Jeff Nesbitt: anyway, before we get into that, let's, let's wrap this thing up.
[:[02:00:00] Hannah Bolden: Not this time. Well,
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