Episode 30

Striving to be a Warrior of the Light with Geoff Hylton

Published on: 5th June, 2021

This is exactly the type of podcast that I love. Funny and raw but still hits some really deep topics. The main line through this one is the concept of what it means to be a warrior of the light (a la the book by Paulo Coelho). We both read a few passages from that book and discuss them between giving our opinions on social issues, talking about our recurring nightmares, and discussing some concerns with contemporary pornography.

Geoff and I were in a groove on this one and we covered all different content areas including: romance, mental health, suicide, pets, movies, and of course crypto. As always, please share, like, review, etc.

And THANK YOU!

Topics/Keywords:

Drew Marrymore tea kettle, Caffeine & Kilos Coffee, Dyson vacuums, tea, honey, collagen, Instagram, Bodybuilding.com, body building, fitness competitions, anabolic steroids, Alaska, workout programming, Olympic lifting, Lance Armstrong, Tour de France, dreams, recurring dreams, Ayahuaska, DMT, nightmares, lucid dreams, Foreverspin, Inception, mortality, The Matrix trilogy, Antebellum, Point Break, Keanu Reeves, Gary Bussey, Black Sheep, Frankie Muniz, Walk Hard the Dewey Cox Story, Lou Diamond Phillips, Meg Ryan, train crash, The Warrior of the Light: a Manual, soft shell turtle, dolls, Geoff’s secret stuffed animal collection, Mr. Bean, Monte Python, Eric Idle, Elon Musk, Doge Coin, Tesla, social manipulation, porn, computer viruses, sex, robots, pornography, It’s Complicated, Meryl Streep, Beethoven, Stanley Tucci, wokeness, homophobia, tolerance, free will, mental illness, psychosis, psychiatry, suicide, crisis management, cryptocurrencies, itchy testicles, hard work, effort, homelessness, Astoria Oregon, dogs, lost pets

Links:

Business inquiries/guest booking: Ramblebytheriver@gmail.com

Website: Ramblebytheriver.captivate.fm

Facebook: Jeff Nesbitt (Ramble by the River)https://www.facebook.com/jeff.nesbitt.9619

Instagram: @ramblebytheriver

Twitter: @RambleRiverPod

Youtube: https://youtube.com/channel/UCNiZ9OBYRxF3fJ4XcsDxLeg

Music Credit(s):

Still Fly, Revel Day.

Transcript

Geoff Hylton 5.25a

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[00:00:04] Geoff Hylton: [00:00:04] Just looking at that actually I'm in the market itself, highly recommended. Uh, cause I bought some about some caffeine and kilos coffee to try it for the first time but it's really good coffee and I feel bad running it through the Keurig. I have to carry pottery. You put your own in there. Um, and I watch it and it just doesn't seem very efficient. Like it doesn't seem like there's waste. It's not extracting what it needs to. And we always use a French press on the boat in Alaska, man.

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[00:00:49] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:00:49] steep for lesser kid. Although, I mean, it's true. Very more collective.

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[00:00:53] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:00:53] name. It's also, it's very nice looking.

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[00:01:06] What happened to your Dyson air? Purifier is still here. It looked like someone I know, but was there some sort of electrical short or something?

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[00:01:29] Geoff Hylton: [00:01:29] and Walton bought one and it's at the house.

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[00:01:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:01:35] too, right? Yeah. It's a fan in the air.

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[00:01:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:01:44] Well, can you trust Colton's recommendation? I don't know.

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[00:01:54] Geoff Hylton: [00:01:54] I've never bought Dyson. Okay. So I bought that. You see, every time I've used it, I'm like, yeah. The hand dryers are nice. [00:02:00] The, uh, they're great. The vacuums are stellar.

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[00:02:06] Geoff Hylton: [00:02:06] Yeah, just a bit. I'm just a fan of his story too. That guy, that Dyson the inventor. Oh really? Well. Hey,

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[00:02:17] Geoff Hylton: [00:02:17] the story. I don't know the story well enough to tell him I'm here. Would you like some

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[00:02:24] Um, I have a little, this

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[00:02:27] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:02:27] I have I do you want collagen flavorless dissolves right away? Yeah.

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[00:02:33] And I was like, I ain't wearin' no collagen. Like... That's make-up.

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[00:02:38] Geoff Hylton: [00:02:38] Yeah.

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[00:02:40] Do you want to have an ass that just won't quit?

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[00:02:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:02:44] Get that college, man. You get the, get the Turkey. I'll be right back.

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[00:03:10] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:03:10] I mean, not honey. Was this a

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[00:03:15] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:03:15] Joe's the most.

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[00:03:18] Geoff Hylton: [00:03:18] it have, uh, champagne in it?

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[00:03:25] Geoff Hylton: [00:03:25] Wow. Trader Joe's is awesome. So I'm assuming this one's your favorite?

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[00:03:34] Geoff Hylton: [00:03:34] I'm thinking about that sunflower. So I was kinda, yeah, I'm a honey. Get to, I think the

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[00:03:43] I'm going to try it tonight,

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[00:03:48] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:03:48] peach. So maybe then you go into, this might compliment that I've had a hard time thinking of what else you use it for?

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[00:04:03] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:04:03] actual junior.

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[00:04:04] Geoff Hylton: [00:04:04] You get to, you know, spice,

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[00:04:08] Geoff Hylton: [00:04:08] of it? No, no slavery. No. Uh, but there's enough of a, like irritation in my mouth and stuff where I think I'm getting some, I don't know, it's from a Oriental Japanese or Chinese company that I'm familiar with. Get an urban legend. Okay.

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[00:04:29] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:04:29] I liked the CBD gummies from urban legend. Oh dude. Yeah, I do.

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[00:04:40] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:04:40] just too expensive. I know exactly. Uh, and it doesn't

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[00:04:49] Me

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[00:05:05] Geoff Hylton: [00:05:05] I think I'd, I think it would help me not smoke as much marijuana.

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[00:05:14] Geoff Hylton: [00:05:14] it was it's funny. I quit for a little bit, but now I'm just looking back at it and smoking as much as I ever have.

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[00:05:21] No.

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[00:05:22]Geoff Hylton: [00:05:22] The other day I didn't smoke for 24 hours and I got really high, strong, and I went out to the shop and Jacob was out there and I was just like, tense and like was carrying my shoulders high and took a couple of pong rifts and was she's like, man, thank god for weed.

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[00:05:43] Geoff Hylton: [00:05:43] yeah. And like I, one thing I really enjoyed that doesn't happen now that I hate is I was waking up a lot more clearly. Oh yeah. You know, I wake up now and I'm like, ah,

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[00:05:54] Geoff Hylton: [00:05:54] smoke before bed.

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[00:06:10] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:06:10] Ooh what's what's what, what are you been drinking? You

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[00:06:16] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:06:16] Refresh my memory. I think we've talked about this before. I have a couple too. We can talk about that for sure. Yeah. Oh yeah, dude. Let's do it one. Let's do an episode on dreams, not just telling our own dreams.

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[00:06:42] Geoff Hylton: [00:06:42] as far as somebody else's dreams go.

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[00:06:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:06:44] that that's again, not my line. I just think it's funny.

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[00:07:00] I used to like, I dunno, think that it was ridiculous people like watching videos and stuff like that of like, you know, like pig dressed as a dinosaur or something like that. And you're like not, but then I'm doing it. You know, I've noticed myself LOL actually, uh,

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[00:07:17] There really are. Especially of people falling down

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[00:07:39] It, it carries something to activate something in your brain. Um, when you're laughing out

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[00:07:47] Geoff Hylton: [00:07:47] when it releases the dopamines. I don't think you get that when you are laughing on the inside. Like you watch a funny movie by yourself and somebody says something funny and you're like, oh, that's funny.

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[00:07:58] Geoff Hylton: [00:07:58] Yeah. [00:08:00] Really funny. Yeah. Uh, and I noticed that with internet videos, when I will laugh out loud

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[00:08:23] It hurts. There's nothing better. I haven't heard that in a while. Yeah. I haven't had it for a while either. It's fun. Yeah. It's one of my favorite thing.

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[00:08:38] Yeah. Adam's a great, yeah. Even Dan barley.

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[00:08:48] Geoff Hylton: [00:08:48] should find a way to get on here. That's why I was talking to him.

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[00:09:00] Geoff Hylton: [00:09:00] of, you know, the thing about Idaho too.

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[00:09:05] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:09:05] know. I've been to a couple of little spots, but you know, not much, uh, priest river.

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[00:09:23] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:09:23] good way.

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[00:09:25] Geoff Hylton: [00:09:25] us. No. Uh, Like Idahoans are very unique and they belong in Idaho. And if they're not in Idaho, they stand out, shout out Idaho. Yeah. And Dave, Dan is an Idaho and through and through, I mean, he should have been there all

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[00:09:47] Geoff Hylton: [00:09:47] but this is just my personal opinion.

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[00:10:05] Yeah, it was, it was, uh, you know, they logged their land and milled the lumber to build these houses and, um, very self-sufficient and not everybody like that. It's like that night ho but

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[00:10:22] Geoff Hylton: [00:10:22] um, you know, there's been some, some talk about separating Oregon and LA Zane that I was actually just going to bring that up.

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[00:10:34] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:10:34] biggest, um, like hang up is on that. What that Idaho doesn't want more people to move there. They they're worried that it's going to create too much awareness of Idaho and that people are going to come into the state into the existing part of Idaho.

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[00:11:03] Geoff Hylton: [00:11:03] well, I mean, you start, you could, there's all kinds of things like Paul take Washington too.

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[00:11:30] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:11:30] Um, I said from Ellensburg over, they can just all absorb

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[00:11:51] It's more my style. That's for sure. You have to

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[00:11:55] Geoff Hylton: [00:11:55] Yeah. Uh, I tend to get along with the people a little more. I mean, I get along with [00:12:00] everybody. Uh, I try to anyway, I think I do a good job of it. Um, I think I'm just a little more conservative naturally socially, socially, for sure.

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[00:12:13] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:12:13] political at all. Yeah. I'm really not either. I believe people want to, but it's

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[00:12:18] Geoff Hylton: [00:12:18] my thing. I believe in gun control and abortion. Yeah. They're both real, but I voted conservative quite a bit. Not this election. I didn't vote for president this election. Yeah. First time I didn't vote for president really?

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[00:12:36] it.

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[00:12:50] Geoff Hylton: [00:12:50] didn't want to partake in this news system and all that nonsense about like, oh, your vote matters.

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[00:13:05] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:13:05] blue. I never know what to expect anymore. What I didn't like was that I felt like the DNC was too open about the fact that Biden wasn't their actual candidate.

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[00:13:27] Geoff Hylton: [00:13:27] all feel like proxies to me.

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[00:13:49] And so many different people are paying them and got them there that can't really do much. It doesn't really seem like much ever gets done. It's just a bunch of smoke and mirrors

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[00:14:02] Geoff Hylton: [00:14:02] want to do every press conference. I would be in tears.

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[00:14:16] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:14:16] Yeah. A lot of people just like that tension. Yeah. They do.

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[00:14:21] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:14:21] it. It's like a drug for me. Okay. I don't have a problem with that if that's your thing.

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[00:14:24] Geoff Hylton: [00:14:24] yeah. I just don't want to do it. And uh,

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[00:14:29] Geoff Hylton: [00:14:29] of bill Maher. Everybody's an expert on it and I don't know shit about it and I'm not going to pretend

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[00:15:04] Geoff Hylton: [00:15:04] Sure. No, I, I I'd agree with that. Um,

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[00:15:12] Geoff Hylton: [00:15:12] Oh, sorry. I haven't the recurring dream. I haven't been dreaming before that. Uh, the recurring dream. I have two recurring current dreams in my life that have been a theme for as long as I can remember. And they come

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[00:15:31] Geoff Hylton: [00:15:31] or really these two dreams.

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[00:15:40] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:15:40] are some pretty popular theories on why that is.

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[00:15:48] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:15:48] Yes. It might be too hot. I set it on oolong. Oh, I saw you drink it. And I was like, I'm drinking. I tried. And it was, it burned my face. So I stopped, but it's uh, it'll be proper temp [00:16:00] shortly. I think next time I'll do a different button

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[00:16:05] That's fine. I just want him to plug a little college in

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[00:16:11] Geoff Hylton: [00:16:11] skin. Yeah. I was talking to a girl about it and she was, she takes it and she's like, yeah, you should take it. And I was like, I don't want to take a no beauty product. Uh, and she was like, well, you're stupid because it's not just that, you know, if that's what you think, you don't know shit about it.

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[00:16:28] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:16:28] Yes. Protein. Yeah. It's very dense protein and it's really easily dissolvable and yeah. It's great stuff. Yeah. It's really good. You can put it in anything. Go colleges and shout out college in

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[00:16:46] There we go.

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[00:16:55] Geoff Hylton: [00:16:55] Yeah. Let I'm by myself. I would just take the, like to take this opportunity to say that [00:17:00] sometimes Jeff can be a real a-hole.

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[00:17:05] Geoff Hylton: [00:17:05] else?

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[00:17:17] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:17:17] are moving blankets for like wrapping your furniture in. Oh, they work good though for what they are. Anyway, the dream stuff, I dream a lot and I, I have a really hard time remembering them, but like this morning when I woke up. I was, I was positive that I had just left another world. Like, you know what I mean? When that feeling is still fresh, but you can't remember exactly what happened. Yeah. I had that today, so I know I was dreaming last night and I checked my woop and I, and I was in REM sleep right before I woke up

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[00:17:49] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:17:49] Yeah. It's this little

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[00:17:55] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:17:55] into it. It'll be on your Instagram feed a lot more. Now that we've talked about it. Uh, but yeah. It's and [00:18:00] especially, cause you work out, so your phone already knows you would be into this thing, but it's, it's really intensive.

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[00:18:07] Geoff Hylton: [00:18:07] It always, they always show me things that I'm like, Ooh, that's nice. I can use that. Or I'd like that. Yeah. They know how to get me. And I've been spending some money off the ground too. It's a great store. There's always killer products. You've been buying this. I bought this shirt.

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[00:18:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:18:35] I bought some shorts off the

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[00:18:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:18:44] Ones were called 10,000, I think not.

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[00:19:07] I have a

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[00:19:10] Geoff Hylton: [00:19:10] You just got to master them with them.

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[00:19:16] Geoff Hylton: [00:19:16] maybe it doesn't look. Maybe it doesn't work on me actually. No, just, I don't know, but I got him and I love him. Uh they're killer shorts. If

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[00:19:26] It does matter. Not so

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[00:19:38] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:19:38] Yeah. Yeah. I like that shirt. The orange is cool. I've been liking orange lately because of

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[00:19:46] I mean, you can like well-made t-shirts these days are just super

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[00:19:55] Geoff Hylton: [00:19:55] what I'm wearing right here in this shirt and these pants, um, in my [00:20:00] boxers, on my flip flops, like, oh man. I'm comfy. Yeah, I am. Yeah. There's no chafing going on.

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[00:20:09] Anyway,

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[00:20:15]Geoff Hylton: [00:20:15] How'd that picture? Turn out. You got me in the action photo. I haven't looked yet. I'm curious. You too.

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[00:20:25] Well, it turned out

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[00:20:30] Geoff Hylton: [00:20:30] mic. Yeah. It's, it's a rambling. That's a weird, I'm trying not to put on weight. I don't want to get any bigger because it makes things harder to move around. Yeah. Just like jumping rope or, or pull-ups bodyweight stuff conditioning. , it really does make it harder.

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[00:21:08], so I tried eat more and I don't do it. Like I said, I haven't eaten today, but on the days when I do, since I am making that effort to eat more food, , I'm growing.

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[00:21:20] Geoff Hylton: [00:21:20] I put strength on when I get stronger, I get bigger. Some people get stronger and you don't get bigger.

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[00:21:39] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:21:39] man. Remember when we were like the same weight for a long time. And within, I mean, probably up until senior year.

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[00:21:48] Geoff Hylton: [00:21:48] And yeah, it wasn't, I didn't really get it

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[00:21:54] Geoff Hylton: [00:21:54] Yeah. That was right about right, right. And where I was

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[00:22:00] [00:21:59] Geoff Hylton: [00:21:59] and you ran a marathon and did collegiate level rowing.

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[00:22:07] Geoff Hylton: [00:22:07] I'll never forget that picture, man. Which one? The one of you up and be him.

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[00:22:23] Geoff Hylton: [00:22:23] picture of you with your shirt off.

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[00:22:33] Geoff Hylton: [00:22:33] going to sound a little shitty. Uh, I dunno. I dunno how it's going to sound. You know, it could sound however I want, uh, I don't want my abs. I don't like them. Why not? Um, cause I'm not trying to be cut.

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[00:23:02] Um, and now they're just there. Yeah, I can't really

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[00:23:07] Geoff Hylton: [00:23:07] of here and do anything about it. I know it sounds really egotistical, but no, it doesn't sound

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[00:23:12] Geoff Hylton: [00:23:12] I know if I eat more food, I could get them to kind of fade a little bit, but, uh,

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[00:23:18] Geoff Hylton: [00:23:18] aesthetically.

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[00:23:31] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:23:31] Yeah. So what, like, what's your ratios for carbs to fat, usually as a fuel source? Do you usually stick more heavier into carbs still?

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[00:23:44] I just, if it's, if I want to eat it and I can't eat it, I'm going to eat it. I don't worry too much about that, but yeah, I eat a lot of carbs. I stick to the simple carbs too. Like I don't do brown rice anymore. I do white rice. I switched

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[00:23:58] Geoff Hylton: [00:23:58] years ago. Yeah. That brown [00:24:00] rice just bogs you down a little bit, you know, maybe before bed or something, you know, for dinner, it might be a good idea for sit in there a little longer, but the rest of the time, I just want that, you know, white rice and it tastes better.

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[00:24:19] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:24:19] so popular a few years back. It was, that was the only

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[00:24:32] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:24:32] Do you ever think about really dialing in your diet and doing like a show?

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[00:24:42] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:24:42] a fitness competition in six months.

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[00:24:54] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:24:54] weird thing, but it would be like a one and done project that it would be kind of just [00:25:00] like, uh, for a, for a laugh get up there.

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[00:25:09] Geoff Hylton: [00:25:09] if I did some steroids do. Yeah. Obviously, you know, what was funny is I've had this growth spurt in the last, like two, three months, uh, where everything has gotten better. I've gotten stronger. My numbers got better.

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[00:25:40] And then without even me realizing it, there was like a four or five month period there, a three, four month period there where nothing was happening, plateau. I totally plateaued. And it just, and, but I was working, doing enough conditioning and stuff like that, to where I thought I was working as hard as I needed to.

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[00:26:16] I have gotten more into that, uh, there's cycles. Yeah. You know, using there's something to be said for not just trying to go as heavy as possible on an exercise every day, you know, getting, you're letting your body adjust to the, learn, the weight and, you know, try and move the bar, the weight faster. You know, every time I grabbed the bar, there's a reason behind it where it's move the weight faster technique or, , weight.

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[00:26:51]Jeff Nesbitt: [00:26:51] , whether that's like full muscle fiber recruitment or whether that's like full range of motion, doesn't have to be the same.

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[00:26:57] Geoff Hylton: [00:26:57] Even when I grabbed the bar and I'm just doing like a [00:27:00] bar. Snatch ballon tubes or jerks or something like that. You know, I'm trying to recruit every fiber in my body use that a hundred percent or as close to it as you can on every rep. Um, but so I was doing this, I realized I wasn't working hard enough and started working harder.

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[00:27:38] It wasn't the hard core stuff. And this is just, these guys are telling me, I don't know much about steroids, to be honest.

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[00:27:46] Geoff Hylton: [00:27:46] Yeah. I don't know. There's so many things that fall under that umbrella. , but I thought about it for a couple of weeks and then my buddy was taking it and I didn't notice anything.

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[00:28:13] Get a baseline. Yeah. , go anyway, he did his first cycle and he was getting ready to order more and I was gonna. Get some, I even placed the order and something happened with the guy. He was getting it from, he got really busy with the competition or something and the package never got sent. Um, so here I am.

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[00:28:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:28:35] Yeah. In all seriousness though, it's, they're not illegal. They're, they're illegal and competition. Yeah. That's not the same as illegal. It's not heroin, right. It's yeah. I don't know that. And I really think if you are doing it with a doctor, what's the harm. Like doctors give people steroids all the time, old ladies,

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[00:28:54] No, they do. Um, I've met plenty of people in my life who have taken [00:29:00] steroids and they're not big and strong. Yeah. Um, you still gotta do the work.

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[00:29:13] Right?

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[00:29:27] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:29:27] I don't think he had, well, first of all, I agree with you, but to be the devil's advocate, I don't really think he had much of a choice.

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[00:29:59] That [00:30:00] was basically a legacy there. Everyone had done it for so long. That was his only option to win. If he wasn't going to do that, he wasn't going to be Lance Armstrong. Everybody was doing it.

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[00:30:11] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:30:11] But he like went in and like really went in and like, you know,

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[00:30:19] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:30:19] it too.

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[00:30:29]Geoff Hylton: [00:30:29] Yeah, that's better. It is. Okay. Dreams, dreams, dream dreams. So my first reoccurring dream is, uh,

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[00:30:48] Geoff Hylton: [00:30:48] This is hard for me to talk about. Actually, it makes me uncomfortable because there are physical react. There's physical reaction to it. Um, The first one is I'm committing suicide.

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[00:31:01] Geoff Hylton: [00:31:01] I know, I know, dude, I don't want any either.

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[00:31:09] The scorpions is after me because my dad didn't pay him. Well, you

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[00:31:14] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:31:14] I don't get it anymore. But I used to get this dream like all the time that I was hiding in my house, that my childhood home, which doesn't even exist anymore. It's been torn down and I'm in the living room and I'm watching.

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[00:32:00] And sometimes they're wearing like leather jackets and other times there's wear normal closings the jets. It's some group of dudes and in the dream either my dad or me have fucked these guys over somehow. And it's always different. I don't know who it is, but we have to run and I'm usually in the house alone.

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[00:32:33] It was weird and always took place in my childhood home. And I have a lot of other dreams that take place in that home. And I've always wondered if there was something to that, like in my subconscious that's where I live, or I don't know. Or if there's unfinished business there that, that I can't get over.

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[00:33:12] That's another place. A lot of my dreams take place. I don't even know that place doesn't even exist. It's weird. You must be afraid of Heights. I'm not, I love Heights. Oh, it's yeah. I don't know. Anyway, let's hear it. I'm ready. I'm emotionally prepped myself.

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[00:33:28] I'm sorry.

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[00:33:57] And then it would tell you if you dream about these dream [00:34:00] elements, what they mean, supposedly it was pretty cool.

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[00:34:08] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:34:08] Yeah. Another good one is, uh, Sigmund. Freud's, uh,

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[00:34:18] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:34:18] he got his big break when he wrote the dream book. But I don't agree with a lot of his dream analysis stuff.

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[00:34:49] It's, it's all kind of cool. And it does mirror real life, but just the fact that he talked about being attracted to his mom gross. [00:35:00] Yeah. Ruined it. Ruined the whole theory.

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[00:35:07] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:35:07] mom, I think so. Not to mention he was coked up

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[00:35:12] Well, that'll make you horny.

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[00:35:16] Geoff Hylton: [00:35:16] yes, it will. Yeah. It's amazing. The things that I've been attracted to and on drugs.

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[00:35:24] Geoff Hylton: [00:35:24] the people oh, it's always, people got, got close to doing some things with the people now that I'm like, Jesus, that was, I would have been horrible. And there's times where, you know, I didn't leave.

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[00:35:48] Who aren't going to work lifestyles. It wasn't going to work from two

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[00:35:52] Geoff Hylton: [00:35:52] worlds. Nope.

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[00:35:57] Geoff Hylton: [00:35:57] Okay.

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[00:36:02] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:36:02] let that stop ringing. We've got some that I extended your thing out too far. It's buzzing really bad.

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[00:36:23] every time you hear that? Every time we touch the table, it's going,

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[00:36:32] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:36:32] that. Well, just don't set that on the table.

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[00:36:49] Geoff Hylton: [00:36:49] means to be one, no, dude, I'll do the dream thing. It's not very long. Let's do it pretty, pretty quick. We don't have to extrapolate it. We're going to extrapolate. Um, so in committed [00:37:00] suicide

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[00:37:01] Geoff Hylton: [00:37:01] and I started having these dreams in high school and it's sometimes I jump off a building, sometimes shoot myself sometimes a lot of times when jumping off the bridge or the top of the rock pit.

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[00:37:38] It fucking, it rocks my world. Um, when it happens, cause it's not nothing instigates. It there's nothing. I've never been able to establish, like what brings it

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[00:37:51] Geoff Hylton: [00:37:51] depressed or no, no, no, no, no, no, no. Um, so that's the first one. And the second one is, and this one's a little more difficult to explain.

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[00:38:23] Sometimes it's an inanimate object, just like a house, uh, or some kind of building. Sometimes it's the bridge. And sometimes it's a person, , , like a faceless shapeless person, but there's that feeling that I describe when I wake up from the suicide dream and I wake feels the same feeling I get.

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[00:39:05] Uh, I've been kind of resisting it. I've been able to fight it off a little bit. Like the other day it was, uh, this guy's property that I've been to with you And there was nobody there. And I was standing in the yard, looking at the house.

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[00:39:38] And it came up behind me and tried to grab me. And I just kinda like did a wrestling, like duck under and slipped. It slipped out from his grasp. Uh, and then I woke up.

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[00:39:48]Geoff Hylton: [00:39:48] Um, yeah, when you don't want to have those that it's with me all day and it sometimes takes me a couple of days to calm down from it.

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[00:40:03] Geoff Hylton: [00:40:03] that I don't know. Yeah. I don't know. I don't think so.

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[00:40:18] cause I've had lucid dreams to where I'm, I'm in control of it and I, and I can think it, I can think it. Into something else, but more often I'll have ones where I'm just like, ah, this is a dream. And it like, I'll have, I'll squeeze my eyes close, really tight in the dream and open them again and they'll be awake.

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[00:40:49] Geoff Hylton: [00:40:49] Yeah. Nobody's ever suggested that to me,

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[00:40:58] I think that a [00:41:00] dream like that is trying to tell you something or trying to address something that's buried in you. That that is important. Or maybe it's something that you have you at one point thought was important and have forgotten about, or who knows. But that's like, people doing those Iowasca retreats where they drink that dimethyltryptamine and I think that's right DMT through the Iowasca and they trip.

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[00:42:05] But what they say is like, if you see a door, go through it, if you see a staircase, follow it. If, you know, if something's chasing, you, ask it,

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[00:42:22] You know, I've been having these dreams since I was 16. So half of my life, and I just started to be able to do that, you know, recently, um, like the other day I was on the beach and it was a wave. Uh, I was on a boat and somehow he made it, I, the wave was coming somehow. I made it up onto the beach and was able to get out of there normally where it would just take me.

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[00:43:02] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:43:02] Yeah. There's tricks.

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[00:43:06] Geoff Hylton: [00:43:06] them. I've been told, like, find your hands, try and find your hands before you go to, before you go to bed, think about like purple and gold.

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[00:43:28] So like, if you have meditated while you're awake on purple and gold means lucid dreams pur purple gold means this is a dream purple and gold means this is a dream. Then you do purple and gold. But like that you can do the same thing with like, in that movie inception where he spins the top. I haven't seen that movie.

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[00:43:52] Geoff Hylton: [00:43:52] Oh, wow. Yeah. It's extraordinarily well balanced.

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[00:44:04] And he'll spin it to be able to tell if he's in a dream or not. Cause if it's, if he's in a dream, for some reason, the top just keeps going forever. Which I really think is probably not the most effective strategy because you got a six-minute top there. You got to wait six minutes to figure out if you're in a dream or not.

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[00:44:34] Geoff Hylton: [00:44:34] No, that makes sense.

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[00:44:48] The first one definitely is about mortality when it's in your control. And the second one's about mortality, when it's

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[00:45:08] And, uh, letting some of the evil things kind of run rampant and chase you down in your future. Yeah. Like spent, spent some, well, I've talked about this on here. Like there were a couple of years there where I was actively encouraging it almost, you know, like I was opening the door. I was letting it letting it in, but I'm not doing that anymore,

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[00:45:34] Right, but

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[00:45:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:45:44] point of being here. You got it. I mean, that's the game. See how, how we, we do, like evil's always chasing. Yeah. And the good is always available. You can always choose it. Yeah. It's never

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[00:46:02] Yeah. To let me know how I'm doing. Well, time will tell if there's a correlation. Yeah. Um, but yeah, those are, I haven't had them in. Oh, probably I haven't had either one of those in two, three months,

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[00:46:26] Yeah.

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[00:46:27] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:46:27] worst. I don't get them very often. But when I do, then that's one of those things where I'm just like, oh fuck, this is a dream I can run way faster

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[00:46:44] Wasn't like fly, but I could just jump incredibly high and like linger in the air a little bit, kind of like Neo. Yeah. And you could, you know, I could jump a thousand feet in the air, but he could, yeah. He could also do his jumps, Lipa building. Uh, it [00:47:00] was drains where I was like, oh my God, I got this power.

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[00:47:10] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:47:10] Uh,

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[00:47:20]Jeff Nesbitt: [00:47:20] Big leaps out

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[00:47:27] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:47:27] I get those too, the jumping ones and, but it never flying, but jumping far. And it's exactly like you described though, except I never figured out how to land. So I, and I get that feeling in my stomach, like when you're really high up, you know what I mean? When you are on a roller coaster, when you feel your stomach go roll, right.

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[00:47:55] Geoff Hylton: [00:47:55] ballsy. What if the power's not there when you dropped?

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[00:48:03] It feels so much like free fall in real life. And so much that when you land, somehow you bounce off your bed. You know what I'm talking about? It has like you, you, right? Sure. You land. It's like,

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[00:48:18]Jeff Nesbitt: [00:48:18] a body can not live without the mind.

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[00:48:24] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:48:24] as a quote from the matrix.

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[00:48:32] Geoff Hylton: [00:48:32] The second one, I started getting lost pretty quick or disinterested anyway, pretty quickly.

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[00:48:49] Like the real world is so gross and like the tubes popping off of his back and everyone's pale and gross. And just like, it's gross. I didn't want to [00:49:00] be there even as a viewer. Uh, and, but you spend most of the time in the matrix where everyone's got super powers and they're all dressed, all fly and everyone's just bad-ass is, but in the second and third one, like the second one.

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[00:49:27] Geoff Hylton: [00:49:27] I should have the second one. Uh, I found it somewhere for like two bucks or something.

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[00:49:45] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:49:45] No. Yeah.

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[00:49:56] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:49:56] of lame. I don't remember. Last time I just sat down and put on a movie.

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[00:50:22] And after like 10 minutes, I was like, Ooh, I don't want to, I don't know. I just don't want to do this. I don't want to get into it. Put the effort to getting into it. So I wouldn't put on the old point break and fell asleep. Cause I think that movie a thousand times Keanu. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah. Mr. Wizard. No, it's uh, uh, Dammit.

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[00:50:54] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:50:54] Yeah. I liked his work in black sheep. Oh yeah.

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[00:51:10] Did, uh, he played ball buddy Holly and the buddy Holly story, actually, you know, you know, buddy Holly. And he did it right where he sang all the songs and stuff himself and he, he, I just happened to see it. I don't remember how or what, but he crushed it.

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[00:51:27] It's hard to believe

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[00:51:31] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:51:31] walk hard. The Dewey Cox story. No. Have you seen that? No, particularly bad case of a boy being cut in half.

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[00:51:47] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:51:47] John C. Riley.

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[00:51:58] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:51:58] Gary Busey and Frankie Munis, [00:52:00] Frankie Muniz, Malcolm in the middle.

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[00:52:08] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:52:08] pretty sure he played buddy Holly in Wockhardt.

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[00:52:15] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:52:15] you talked about him on another episode. I don't remember who that is. He was in like something with Denzel. Oh

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[00:52:23] Oh man. That was a horrible movie. Yeah. It's like code of honor or something. Yeah.

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[00:52:30] Geoff Hylton: [00:52:30] Denzel's reviewing a medal of honor. That's being rewarded to Meg Ryan. Who's Dan, you know, she's a helicopter pilot. Well, you know, talk to crash. I was going to make sure that, you know, the helicopter crashed, uh, and they all survived.

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[00:52:45] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:52:45] has to decide if Meg Ryan's worthy. Okay. Supposedly

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[00:52:56] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:52:56] Uh, he's like a skinny James Edward, almost that she,

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[00:53:00] Does she know? Like it, you do it. And uh, he ends up committing suicide parks, his train car on the tracks. And he does spoiler alert. Doesn't find out that movie's a spoiler. This spoils spoils your day. Yeah. Your

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[00:53:27] You want to do that? Yes. So we're about to get cheesy because this book is called the warrior of the light, a manual. It's by the author of the million copy bestseller, the Alchemist Paulo Coelho. Is that how you say his name?

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[00:53:50] It's like a really great toilet book. It is Jeff left it on the back of the toilet, like five years ago longer. And

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[00:54:01] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:54:01] Well, I took a liking to it. Oh, that's great. And when I moved, I took it with me. They

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[00:54:13] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:54:13] Well, I bet you, if you just open it randomly, God will put you right to it. And if he doesn't, you can just pretend that that was the one you liked. He doesn't

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[00:54:22] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:54:22] Never knows that you find out you want to go

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[00:54:27] I'm sorry.

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[00:55:05] Sometimes he acts without even knowing that he is doing so he saves someone without even knowing he is saving them. He suffers without even knowing why he sad. Yes. Life is insane, but the wisdom of the word lies in choosing his insanity wisely. Wow. That's it.

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[00:55:31] It means?

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[00:55:38] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:55:38] I think this one. Yeah, you go. So I went for a walk with my sister today and I pretty much said that exact thing without any of the cool warrior symbolism, but basically I think it means like life is a fucking trip. Yeah. How are we here? The fact that we're here is so amazing that to take it [00:56:00] for granted is a tragedy, think of probability,

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[00:56:12] And the chances of each one of them happening are small in the whole course of existence. So every moment is really technically a fucking miracle or a statistical anomaly at the very least. So life is insane. The fact that we are here, I was looking at a picture of a soft shell turtle that, I mean, I posted it on my Instagram story because I had no idea that these little fuckers existed, the, these soft shell tours, it, it looked delicious and I mean, soft, supple, no shell, nothing to chew around.

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[00:56:55] Geoff Hylton: [00:56:55] with a face I've seen a lot of prolapsed anuses have you [00:57:00] I've seen it? No, you don't. That it burns itself into your memory. It's your dad it's

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[00:57:17] Let's find some shit to eat. Maybe along the way. I'll fuck something and that's it. And then we get tired. It's going to sleep. And then nothing else. And, and you can just tell that by looking at that creatures eyes. Yeah. And that's, I mean, that's why they say that the parts of our brain that deal with those functions is the reptilian part of the brain, because they think, you know, what are the chances that there's much more going on in any reptile brain?

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[00:57:53] Geoff Hylton: [00:57:53] most adults.

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[00:58:05] Lots of dolls in my life right now.

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[00:58:24] Oh, you keep them. There is some tough word folks' house in the garage. So you've

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[00:58:30] Geoff Hylton: [00:58:30] storage. Yeah. Yeah. There's like a Mr. Bean, Mr. Bean. Uh, his Teddy bears. Uh, there's

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[00:58:39] Geoff Hylton: [00:58:39] Oh, it's it. You might know, British humor. I didn't understand

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[00:58:44] Yeah, I got money. Python's funny back

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[00:59:07] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:59:07] The holy grail.

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[00:59:16] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:59:16] themselves. Their voices are my favorite part of their comedy. They have those just like seventies, British comedy voices. Yeah.

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[00:59:37] Jeff Nesbitt: [00:59:37] but anyway,

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[00:59:49] Always fucking up. And he's the

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[00:59:53] Geoff Hylton: [00:59:53] I think he was the one who had like most commercial success.

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[00:59:59] Geoff Hylton: [00:59:59] I [01:00:00] think he got more into like the producing side of

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[01:00:10] Uh, he was good too, but I don't remember his name. Graham Chapman, man. I don't know. Yeah. Anyway, um, I'll do, I'm going to do one of these things.

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[01:00:47] Uh, and it's still insane that you're able to exist in a climate controlled environment. That's got. You have access to every piece of information on the planet at your [01:01:00] fingertips. Uh, even, you know, you're eating a piece of food that was made overseas with the, you know, through the miracle of science, uh, it's endless, it's endless and you can, you know what I mean?

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[01:01:34] Oh, that's

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[01:01:38] Geoff Hylton: [01:01:38] you're going to have the same issues come up, you know, there's going to be different. They're going to be your issue

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[01:01:48] Yeah.

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[01:02:00] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:02:00] all that. The light doesn't let that fear stop

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[01:02:09] Yeah. I haven't lived my life that way.

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[01:02:14] Geoff Hylton: [01:02:14] I'll try it. I'm working on it lately. I'm doing, yeah. Me make some changes.

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[01:02:24] Geoff Hylton: [01:02:24] You're not, yeah. The life you're living now is in the same life you were living in a year ago.

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[01:02:54] Geoff Hylton: [01:02:54] pride.

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[01:03:11], I noticed that if I got all my shit done and I go out there and try and work out, it could be much more in the moment. Otherwise you're thinking about it and you're either

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[01:03:19] Geoff Hylton: [01:03:19] but I'm trying to make sure I'd take care of all the responsibilities that I have now in this stage of my life to prep myself for taking on more responsibilities.

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[01:03:30] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:03:30] So that's a good planning phase. Yeah. Figure out what you want and aim. Yeah. Yeah. You won't hit the mark unless you're aiming. Let's drill, but you gotta know what the market is anyway. You might not actually know you probably most, most of the time, just find a new mark.

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[01:03:47] Geoff Hylton: [01:03:47] about this slide? Like a game of darts. You did turns out you didn't want the bullseye after.

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[01:04:06] Geoff Hylton: [01:04:06] I was never on it. What? I was never on it. I mean, I'm a fan of his, but uh, I don't take his advice. Why not?

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[01:04:17] Geoff Hylton: [01:04:17] To be honest, I don't take a lot of people's advice

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[01:04:24] Geoff Hylton: [01:04:24] Some stranger, because I have my best interest

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[01:04:30] Well, yeah, and I don't blame him

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[01:04:42] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:04:42] No was like, why would I, why would I give you? I didn't give you advice.

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[01:04:48] Geoff Hylton: [01:04:48] true. I felt special. Yeah. What you've said had a direct correlation to my life. Sorry. Quote on Instagram really spoke to me.

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[01:05:00] [01:05:00] Geoff Hylton: [01:05:00] Yeah. I mean that's people's fault. Yeah. They're letting them influence him. Like,

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[01:05:07] Geoff Hylton: [01:05:07] into it.

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[01:05:25] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:05:25] here.

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[01:05:47] But I don't want to fucking do that same with like, trying to convince people to get on this, like to listen to this show, I could make clickbait and I could, I could target certain audiences and I could do all kinds of stuff, but a trick of, I don't [01:06:00] really want to do that. It's like, if you don't like the show, don't listen to it.

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[01:06:03] Geoff Hylton: [01:06:03] I get clicked baited, I'm like, fuck you I'll burn. Like I'm not participating. I'm lacking. I'm backing out of it.

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[01:06:20] But the a though haven't, you know, I don't give a fuck. Um, but that's just an example, but like 10 individual pages where each time you have to click the next page. And so each time it's a fresh load of all these new ads, it's just like. No, you're stealing my attention for profit. Yeah. And I don't like it.

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[01:06:40] Geoff Hylton: [01:06:40] is. Um, but it, I mean, it's genius or

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[01:06:53] Geoff Hylton: [01:06:53] Then as long as I'm on websites that I should be on, uh, clickbaits not there.

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[01:07:00] [01:06:59] Geoff Hylton: [01:06:59] like Quora, I don't even know what that is.

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[01:07:12] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:07:12] on it. I'm trying to figure out how you determine which websites you should. And shouldn't be on like,

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[01:07:28] I know. Um, I have business and a reason to be on there. Uh, it just seems like when I go to a website wasting fucking time porn, uh, I don't get a lot of clickbait on porn. Now,

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[01:07:45] Geoff Hylton: [01:07:45] I don't, I don't know. I just have a system set up with the whole porn thing where it's, you know, I would go to the same website and there's, I know what to click on what not to click on there, safe route.

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[01:08:00] [01:08:00] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:08:00] You don't, you don't want to mess around with the wrong stuff.

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[01:08:07] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:08:07] where I was going. There's a

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[01:08:13] I'm like somebody who's like, oh yeah, Mr. Hilton was looking at support. Oh, that's no big deal. Oh, but Sarah, he's looking at a stepsister website, like a fucking gross. It's so fucking wrong. Like, so you want to pretend, so you're not getting aroused by a stranger. So you want to pretend that stranger is your sister, but not really.

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[01:08:38]Geoff Hylton: [01:08:38] I remember I slept with a girl once who had the same name as my sister. And

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[01:08:45] Geoff Hylton: [01:08:45] weird. It was like, oh, I can't even say it now.

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[01:08:58] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:08:58] That's worse, man. [01:09:00] I fucked a gay dude this weekend.

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[01:09:17] Uh, she heard me and right away, I was like threw my hands on my mouth and expected my Dick to get cut off.

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[01:09:45] We'll do that. Wow. Uh, most girls would have not gone that route. That's for sure.

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[01:10:04] Geoff Hylton: [01:10:04] Okay if you're going down on your wife.

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[01:10:13] Geoff Hylton: [01:10:13] Uh, I'll play along. Um, so imagine you come home from work one day and you're one Randy I'm feeling right in you and your wife.

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[01:10:26] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:10:26] at least two or three days.

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[01:10:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:10:44] not stuff that up. Mm. That doesn't sound sexy. No, it's uh, yeah, that would be a real bad

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[01:10:59] It'll [01:11:00] kill my turn on. It's easy to kill a boner. Yeah. When I hear a girl say owl was done, fucking gone. Yeah. Good luck. Getting it

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[01:11:10] Geoff Hylton: [01:11:10] Bullshit.

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[01:11:15] Geoff Hylton: [01:11:15] Yeah. No sexist gross. That's how I use a dirty sock. Yeah, no, it is.

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[01:11:23] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:11:23] It is something though that we're like in America very hung up about like, I probably can't talk about sex with most of my guests. Why? I don't know. It seems like you'd be able to, it's something we're all doing. Yeah. Why not talk about it? Yeah, I don't know. But it just because it makes everyone feel uncomfortable.

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[01:11:45] Geoff Hylton: [01:11:45] now. It doesn't make me too uncomfortable now. Meaning either. I mean, I could see some situations where it would be like, I don't know. I mean, I told my mom the other day that I was horny, you're she was like, what's going on with you?

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[01:12:16] Uh, and, uh, and that that'll work for me. And she's just like, oh, like, I can't help you there. I was like, I know, uh, yeah, it

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[01:12:26] Geoff Hylton: [01:12:26] Like she gets it. She's like, oh, I got a 30 year old son. He's brimming with testosterone and yeah, he gets horny.

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[01:12:38] Like there are days when, if you haven't gotten laid for a long time where you really can't get anything else done until you kind of take care of that situation like when you're just ravenous, those are not good days. It's not like I totally can understand how there was a time when men were just thought of as animals.

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[01:13:21] Well, no, I, I'm not aggressive in that.

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[01:13:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:13:35] I would have ended up just like hanging around you and taking the scraps.

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[01:13:46] And then we'll rape them and Beck

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[01:13:50] Geoff Hylton: [01:13:50] to each his own, whatever you want. I don't discriminate, but I think that's, I wouldn't, I would have, I wouldn't be able to do that. I'd be the [01:14:00] worst gang leader ever. Like how about we go down and wine and dine him instead romantic.

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[01:14:14] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:14:14] by offering them safety and security. Uh huh. What I do, that's what I would do. Yeah. I think it was probably a pretty, I mean, that's, that's a typical beta tactic, you know, being the nice guy and you get friend zoned it's it's one of the part of the risk

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[01:14:33] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:14:33] but you also don't have to fight the alpha.

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[01:14:38] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:14:38] Exactly.

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[01:14:43] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:14:43] Yeah. Yeah, exactly. Because they're not trying to take your hair off. No,

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[01:14:55] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:14:55] Did I say heroin? Harem? Is that the right

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[01:15:01] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:15:01] Yeah.

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[01:15:06] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:15:06] wouldn't want to hear him. No, that sounds

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[01:15:12] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:15:12] I mean, you know, I'll never know. Watch it. Watch one romantic comedy.

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[01:15:18] Geoff Hylton: [01:15:18] about it. It's complicated. I love that movie.

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[01:15:23] Geoff Hylton: [01:15:23] No. Uh, it's with, uh, Alec Baldwin, Meryl Streep and uh, old people. The banjo player, the banjo, Steve Martin. Oh, that is a good movie. You have seen various love triangle. Yeah. Yeah. It was a love triangle and a little bit of weeds, but Merrill's great.

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[01:15:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:15:44] man, she's got a heavy

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[01:16:01] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:16:01] that girl can act.

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[01:16:03] I like it. I don't care what anybody says. It's got Stanley Tucci in it.

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[01:16:12] Geoff Hylton: [01:16:12] He was, yeah. In this movie he plays, he's like the beta to Meryl Streep. Who's the head of a fashion magazine. And Anne Hathaway gets a job as the secretary, but she's like, anti-fashion, you know, it doesn't, it doesn't partake in that kind of stuff.

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[01:16:52] It's subtle, you know?

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[01:17:03] Geoff Hylton: [01:17:03] know. I was actually talking about this yesterday with somebody.

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[01:17:27] I have to know. It's a very small issue. Yeah, exactly. It's fleeting. Yeah. There's like, huh? I feel my gaydar's going off. Okay. I don't, I don't mind gay people. I love the gays. It all. If you got a nice personality, I'm going to like you,

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[01:17:46] And then I felt uncomfortable. Or like he was being, I've never had that happen. I've

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[01:17:54] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:17:54] where that made you mad or uncomfortable.

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[01:18:07] Exactly. I'm sure that I've made a girl uncomfortable time or two without trying to such a bad

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[01:18:13] Geoff Hylton: [01:18:13] I hate fucking horrible, but you got to try. Um, and that's what happened with these two times in particular, one time, a guy at the labor tumble quote, unquote, I mean, like verbatim said, asked if he could pound me in the ass.

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[01:18:36] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:18:36] Like you feel really uncomfortable.

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[01:18:43] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:18:43] Not because I'm feeling like that guy shouldn't have the right to pound some ass.

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[01:18:49] Geoff Hylton: [01:18:49] that's it. Yeah. If I didn't freak out and call him a queer or anything like that, like, uh,

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[01:18:58] Geoff Hylton: [01:18:58] dude, the dude trying to get [01:19:00] some, uh, trying to, uh, you know, get her shrink her licked.

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[01:19:07] Yeah. The last five years have seemed like society has been in such a hurry to welcome this new found acceptance and this new found.

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[01:19:37] Geoff Hylton: [01:19:37] extra responsibility. Yeah.

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[01:19:48] Geoff Hylton: [01:19:48] Yeah. We've done that with athletes too.

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[01:19:53] Like tokenism, where we expect one black person to speak for their whole race. I never get asked.

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[01:20:06] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:20:06] Oh

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[01:20:11] Not my issue. It has nothing to no impact on my day-to-day life. That's what, that's the reaction I get. Like, you're part of the problem. Like, oh, I just try and treat everybody that I come across as best I can on a moment to moment. What the fuck else could I, you know, I got enough fucking shit going on in my own life.

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[01:20:30] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:20:30] you're not a policymaker track with the big cultural plan. What can I do? I don't know.

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[01:20:50] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:20:50] Yeah. Who doesn't understand the issues at all is supposed to

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[01:21:04] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:21:04] Really not a problem for me. I like that. I think everybody needs, I mean, white

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[01:21:11] That's

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[01:21:29] Nope. And that's where, like, when people talk about generational reparations or things like that, it gets real slippery real quick, but it's worth paying attention and looking for opportunities to, to right. The ship. If things feel like they're getting squirrely. You know what I mean? Like, but really I think the way you do that is the way you just said is being a good person on a moment to moment.

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[01:21:50] Geoff Hylton: [01:21:50] Right. And so many times in those conversations, when you are drug into them, you're not being nice to each other and you're being fucking shitty to each other. And a lot of times when you get drunk that conversation, [01:22:00] somebody is fucking pointing their finger at you and calling you a racist and telling you that you're living your life in a horrible way.

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[01:22:25] Uh, but, uh, like, fuck, I got, I'm a goddamn drug addict with mental illness that I'm trying to get my fucking life together. Let me worry about flash. Yeah. Fuck. I'm not a, I'm not a racist. Exactly. I'm a fucking good person, you know?

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[01:22:43] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:22:43] will be great. You are always going to be a great day when we come to a place as a, as a society where you could say something that's mildly racist out of ignorance and your friend will go, ah, dude, that's a little bit racist. And, and that's it. And you're like, oh shit, you're right. Sorry about that.

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[01:23:16] That's

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[01:23:36] And, uh, everybody just reacts so dramatically with everything. Not only are the, the accusations in, you know, the conversation started in a dramatic and over the top fashion, but like dialogue inside those conversations, just from what I've seen, I could be wrong. That's just, my perspective is it's so hostile and like, Howard,

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[01:23:56] Geoff Hylton: [01:23:56] Yeah. Like how could you expect this [01:24:00] conversation to go well, when you're talking the way that you're talking, like what you say matters, but the way you say it and your body language and stuff, uh, matters a whole lot, especially if you're talking about issues that are gonna make people uncomfortable and make them feel like maybe they're wrong or something, you know?

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[01:24:20] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:24:20] to

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[01:24:30] And I'm right. Like people love telling other people that they're wrong.

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[01:24:40] Geoff Hylton: [01:24:40] Totally. Well, I don't know if we're all doing our best.

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[01:24:47] Well by that, I really just think that like, when I've been at my very worst as who I am as a person, how I feel about myself or what I'm contributing to the world, I'm still doing my best. I'm just not doing [01:25:00] very well. Like my best is just not up to my own standards, but it doesn't mean I'm not trying it's I don't know that might not make any sense.

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[01:25:25] Geoff Hylton: [01:25:25] Well, I've wondered about that. And he actually talked to you about it on here with, in terms.

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[01:25:34] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:25:34] Uh,

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[01:25:48] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:25:48] over myself? Because you can make an argument for none and you can make an argument for all of

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[01:25:55] That's what makes that stuff so tough is that you never come to an [01:26:00] answer. Nope. It's just like how you're feeling. No, it's just like, how you feeling in the moment, Nick, if you're in a good mood, you might be like, oh, I got some power. Yeah, I do. And then when you're depressed or it gets totally fucking hopeless, there's nothing I could do.

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[01:26:12] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:26:12] There's a grain of sand, massive universe

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[01:26:18] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:26:18] going to feel sad forever. Yeah. None of those things are true. Maybe. Nah, I know for a fact, they're not because they, everything, every one of those things has changed. If it's a fact prove it.

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[01:26:52] Geoff Hylton: [01:26:52] gets a little bit that has held that thought though has held me back sometimes where I go, like, how much can I actually do?

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[01:27:12] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:27:12] Yeah. And then tell your not, and sure. It's just like, shit just changes and it just flips. And you just, you just gotta roll with it.

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[01:27:24] Geoff Hylton: [01:27:24] it. Yeah. I don't want to. I don't want to spend a lot of my day thinking that way, like, oh, I have a mental illness. I need to do this and this I don't, man. I just want to rehearsal.

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[01:27:50] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:27:50] funny.

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[01:28:00] Geoff Hylton: [01:28:00] that. I do it. Yeah. I don't, I don't do that one because that, cause then I go, maybe those doctors didn't know shit.

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[01:28:06] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:28:06] true. You can just find your places.

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[01:28:11] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:28:11] It could be coincidence. We'll do that. That's always a possibility. And we've

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[01:28:28] Like, you know, it's the way you're thinking and the way you're acting about it is whatever's true. Um, you're gonna make it within, you know, obviously there's, you know, like hardcore get the forensics and stuff like that. I mean, there's there's cases and there's people who have less control than that, but you're, so

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[01:28:52] They aren't able to do that in a way that's cohesive and makes sense. Yeah. Like if,

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[01:29:08] And that's where medication. Yeah. That's where medication can come in and stuff like that. Everybody knows people like that. Everybody knows people. It's like, Ooh, you know, there's just something different about that motherfucker. Yeah.

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[01:29:21] Geoff Hylton: [01:29:21] I still wonder if I'm that person. I do wonder how that person time will tell, but I just wish people would tell me,

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[01:29:34] The, like the longer I go into life, the more I realize that like. It's all just so fleeting in who we are. Like, you could be one person one minute and then feel like a completely different person the next minute. So why try to bank on it? Why waste so much energy, trying to construct this cohesive self it's for other people it's to make other

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[01:29:58] When I realized I've been realizing [01:30:00] that a lot lately, just like how short it is and hopefully it is. And, uh, like don't wait to do shit. Don't wait to say shit. Like, don't wait to, don't wait to express yourself. Like, if you want something, go after it. If you don't be embarrassed. Yeah, exactly. If you feel that way, if you feel a way about somebody, you know, tell them, let them know.

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[01:30:19] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:30:19] doesn't. Yeah. And, but either way it's better than living in regret. Yeah. Or just living in a safe prison that you built.

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[01:30:36] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:30:36] W when you're not sure where you're supposed to take that energy and, and what you're, what correct is like.

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[01:30:41] Geoff Hylton: [01:30:41] you think, when you, you know, the end I had in mind was suicide, I'd figured it would take a couple of years to get to that point. But, you know, it's really hard to go about your day in any sort of positivity or getting anything done when you're like, what's the

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[01:31:04] It's like when you like we're biological organisms, our whole goal of existence is to propagate and, and, you know, spread like bacteria as a human species. So if you're wanting to end it, that means something's wrong. Oh, by that I

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[01:31:31] Like I'm not, I don't do it. It's like, oh, I lost all my money on the stock market or something like that. Like my moods and feelings. And that's part of the thing, reason that is one of the things that have, has been so hard for me to deal with is that my moods and feelings are, they do what they want. It doesn't matter.

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[01:32:02] And it's still like, oh, I'm in a good mood. Like I noticed I noticed it in jail too. I was like, oh fuck.

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[01:32:21] Geoff Hylton: [01:32:21] Well, I've always told people that I do better when things are bad.

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[01:32:36] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:32:36] Yeah. Just like I knew that the crypto market was eventually going to crash.

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[01:32:43] Geoff Hylton: [01:32:43] that's actually, I don't know. And I took that as if I can golden opportunity. That's what I did with it too.

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[01:32:51] Geoff Hylton: [01:32:51] Well, I was in and out a couple of months ago and then I hadn't like reinvented. I was reinvesting what I was making, but I wasn't putting anything extra [01:33:00] into it.

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[01:33:03] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:33:03] Yeah. This week has been, uh, as, as far as the long-term investors. Yeah. This is not investment advice by the way. Of course always never

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[01:33:14] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:33:14] for it? Um, but yeah, this week, I mean the market dropped 50%.

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[01:33:36] Geoff Hylton: [01:33:36] up.

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[01:33:53] And it's kind of the same thing. It doesn't like it either. It's kind of the same things with politics. Like y'all motherfuckers are [01:34:00] talking like, you know, what's going to happen and you don't. Nobody does like, you don't have any control over this. Uh, and there's been friends of mine. Who've got really into it and they want to talk about crypto.

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[01:34:23] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:34:23] Well, dude, the, the one thing that we do know about the crypto market is it is highly volatile.

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[01:34:37] Geoff Hylton: [01:34:37] no, but I'm a longterm player. Uh, so when things started crashing, I didn't, I just, I was like, fucking I'm riding out. And if, if it keeps going and eventually it gets to the point where I've lost all the money that I put in there then.

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[01:35:07] Yeah, you leave that money in Excel. You leave that money in there until you got on the hospital bill to pay for something like that. That's the way I'm looking at it. Anyway. Uh, so when the croak and crashed like it did, uh, I put some more double down. Me too.

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[01:35:25] Geoff Hylton: [01:35:25] I've actually been meaning to ask you to, if we could get together and do some talking about it,

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[01:35:36] Geoff Hylton: [01:35:36] Yeah. I mean, I'm just, I'm just getting into it. So there's, it's just, there's so much fucking information.

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[01:36:02] That's I I'm, I'm gonna be part of that technology as it increases and as it gets bigger and, um, I've made up my mind about

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[01:36:27] I see a snowball effect kind of yeah. Kind of happens.

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[01:36:34] Geoff Hylton: [01:36:34] Yeah. I do think it's, I do think it's here to stay and it's like, either you can be run over by it or you can, uh, benefit from it, get advantage of it. Uh, and so I'm really trying to, even though it's doesn't interest me or anything like that, I'm really trying to.

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[01:36:50] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:36:50] don't want to be stuck trying to get into the crypto market in 2027 when the dollar is worth a quarter of what it is.

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[01:37:00] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:37:00] encrypto is 10

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[01:37:06] It's like, well, exactly. I was just going to say that it's like, . But yeah, best time to plant a tree was 27 years ago. The second, best time to plant a tree right now. That's what I've been of thinking

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[01:37:22] Yeah. Yeah. Cooper

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[01:37:39] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:37:39] they will, they will do it.

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[01:38:03] I find it exciting, really exciting because I see the technology growing and I see the potential and just all the awesome things that are going to happen because of it. And also it'd be cool if I can get fucking rich too. I'd like that. I don't want to have to think about money all the

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[01:38:20] That's kind of what I'm going for. Um, I'd like to, I would like to be making money when I'm not working. That's another thing I'm going for.

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[01:38:36] Uh, I want to start spending money on things that are gonna make me money, like property. Yeah. And

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[01:38:55] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:38:55] started a new account today that pays me 8% interest.

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[01:39:20] That's not for a bank for billions of dollars on the market that they're exchanging. If something

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[01:39:28] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:39:28] there. Yeah. But it's a crypto. It's a crypto account. Hold on. I'll wait. You're like right in the mic. Sorry,

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[01:39:49] Um, and you know, as you know that, when do your balls hit you the most?

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[01:39:58] Geoff Hylton: [01:39:58] shave them. Okay. Uh, [01:40:00] and as so often happens with balls. When you start scratching them for the first couple of minutes, they just get more and more itchy. Um, so yeah. So about the shop drinking my coffee. Yeah.

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[01:40:11] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:40:11] back that women have any idea how nuts are scratched. No, they probably think it's like a scratch everything else

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[01:40:23] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:40:23] yeah, he was trying to scratch your balls. Like you scratch your arm. It like drags it like a loose,

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[01:40:30] That's the first step. So you're doing this weird, like thumb finger, thumb, pinky spread, and then you're itch it with your middle three.

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[01:40:58] Geoff Hylton: [01:40:58] That's exactly the, uh, [01:41:00] motion. The other, the third was. Yeah, that's my last style, but let's technique. The third technique is to bunch it all up and, uh, like choke it off, like a choker on a log or something, and then take your other hand and just rotate it until you get some friction. And that works counter rotation.

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[01:41:36] It was kind of random. I didn't really need it. I was like, whatever. Like, you want to leave your chainsaw in here? That's cool, Dan. Um, he's like, okay, I'll bring it back in a couple of hours. So he leaves and uh, I start sketching my balls and it starts escalating. Uh, and I'm in my shop. Like pretty soon. I just got them out there, out in the air.

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[01:41:57] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:41:57] out. A little

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[01:42:15] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:42:15] just pushing it right up to the line where it's going to hurt.

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[01:42:18] Geoff Hylton: [01:42:18] leave a cut or something. Then you want to do that because, oh God, it's terrible. For days. Scrub does not heal quick. Um, And all of a sudden I look over and there's fucking Dan, right? My garage with these big old eyes and the side, he just like, I like, I just like turn and put everything back in my pants.

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[01:42:44] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:42:44] you thought you were out there drinking.

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[01:42:55] Hey, Dan, I'm scratching my balls. Like, sorry. It was my shop. And I was like, but what [01:43:00] if he didn't see anything? And I was like, Hey Dan, you saw my Dick. I had my Dick out. And then he like, I didn't see anything. Wait, wait, you had your Dick out. When I see your Dick was out. When I came into the shop, like you pervert you.

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[01:43:19] Geoff Hylton: [01:43:19] And he said, Greenbrae Vietnam, combat, veteran. Like he's seen some shit. He seems to be shit. Uh, like the other day I was waiting for him to come outside, to talk to him. And all of a sudden I see this gun barrel come out of his door and he shot something.

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[01:43:37] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:43:37] have you ever shot a 22 caliber pellet gun? Yeah, they're really cool. Yeah. Ed has one and you just, it's a break action. Break the barrel down, put a pellet in, pop that barrel back up and just that one pump of breaking it down and pop, open it back up.

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[01:43:57] Geoff Hylton: [01:43:57] animals down with them. Yeah, I

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[01:44:06]Geoff Hylton: [01:44:06] Or you're the light.

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[01:44:13] The warrior of the light knows that it is impossible to live in a state of complete relaxation. . He has learned from the Archer that in order to shoot his arrow in the distance, he must hold the boat hot. He has learned from the stars that only an inner explosion allows them to shine.

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[01:44:43] Geoff Hylton: [01:44:43] You gotta do. You gotta ego first on this one, you gotta do. What's required to get what you want in life. Like things require work and effort and full effort.

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[01:45:10] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:45:10] I think it also speaking to not letting fear and worry consume you.

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[01:45:33] And it's flexing all its muscles and, you know, as a metaphor for a human, like when we're going to lay down to rest and your mind just won't stop racing about all the worries you have about the next day. You don't need to be there because you're not there. You should be where you are, which is in your bed trying to rest.

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[01:45:56] Geoff Hylton: [01:45:56] Yeah. And then you're not giving you don't have quite the same energy [01:46:00] and focus as you do. You've expelled some, some attention already, some of your life force.

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[01:46:06] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:46:06] Uh, that, that anxious energy is put in there. To get us to move right. To create

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[01:46:19] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:46:19] Well then that's not the same even, cause that's not anxiety as much as it is anticipation.

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[01:46:23] Geoff Hylton: [01:46:23] about that. I've been watching chaser lately and just thinking about her and I've thought along those lines, just like, she's not thinking about anything else, but what's going on right now, mindfulness. And when, and she gives a hundred percent in the moment all the time. And there's something that I really admire.

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[01:46:42] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:46:42] And she doesn't know if tomorrow's going to be there or not. No, neither do we. Why are we always waiting? You're

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[01:47:01] She's living. Jason lives her best life. That's for sure. She really does. Yeah. She's a good dog.

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[01:47:06] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:47:06] Oh yeah. W you want to tell quickly the story about you getting accosted by the homeless?

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[01:47:25] So I took chase along the river walk, uh, to walk off the chicken wings a little bit. It's good for the digestion, uh, and just enjoy the evening. And, uh, chase, uh, just walk and chase a places as me. I interact with people. Did she she's conversation start people come up.

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[01:47:58] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:47:58] Yeah, that's true, dude. I [01:48:00] think you're pretty approachable.

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[01:48:07] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:48:07] You have kind eyes though. If you, if you had more tattoos, uh, you'd be less approachable, but I don't know. I don't know. Maybe I, the

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[01:48:24] It was by the maritime museum. Come across this. I'm not going to say they were homeless, but they weren't at home. And they looked like they were camping, dirty camping in the street.

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[01:48:36] Geoff Hylton: [01:48:36] Numeral. I mean, numerous new rules. It's not a word. Uh, yeah, there was a couple cars running.

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[01:49:05] Um, I wasn't paying too much fucking attention to it, to be honest. Uh, cause you don't want to

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[01:49:14] Geoff Hylton: [01:49:14] I hope you're

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[01:49:22] Geoff Hylton: [01:49:22] group.

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[01:49:33] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:49:33] I said money bitch. I don't want to fucking sandwich.

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[01:49:37] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:49:37] car. Yeah. Dirty, dirty.

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[01:49:46] Anyway. Um, so I'm trying to just do my own thing and I'm avoiding them, but I got chased with me and they have a dog with them and the dog sees chase and me and starts barking. Uh, what kind of dog?

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[01:50:02] Geoff Hylton: [01:50:02] their pits. Yeah. It tastes it. Doesn't, isn't gonna protect me from shit as this story explains.

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[01:50:27] Just a bam, you know, and the dog was there and it was like the kind of hit where the dog yelped and then kept yelping. Oh my God. I mean, those hits, uh, it was like, it was fucking horrible. And he was a fucking piece of shit, you know, started yelling at it.

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[01:50:47] Geoff Hylton: [01:50:47] Yeah. Maybe. I don't know. It doesn't fucking matter to me what he was thinking. His reaction wasn't appropriate in any situation. Uh, and then I couldn't say anything. I couldn't help myself. And I had just [01:51:00] smoked a little weed, so I wasn't, I think I was being pretty calm. Yeah. I was just like, whoa, dude.

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[01:51:24] Put the work in, uh, She didn't come this way. She didn't come awesome. It made her, she came

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[01:51:36] Geoff Hylton: [01:51:36] Good predisposition. But anyway, uh, I don't remember exactly everything I said. Um, cause out of nowhere, all of a sudden I feel this fucking whack and I'm seeing stars.

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[01:52:11] Like I had bruises on my chest and on my leg, uh, I can hear chase it yelping. Oh my God. So they were getting on her. I'm sure. Chase just ran up to him like, Hey, you want to pet me? Like I want to pet you. Uh, and this guy just started wailing on him, honor. Uh, and right away, I thought there's too many of them.

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[01:52:47] I would have done some damage then their cheekbones are so fragile. That orbital bone. Yeah. Yeah, God, I hope I hit her hard. No, uh,

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[01:53:00] [01:52:59] Geoff Hylton: [01:52:59] no clue. Yeah. Just throw a couple and, and just created a little distance and then got out of the circle. Luckily Trace's old, but she's fit. And she was right on my, I was like, come on Jason.

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[01:53:30] Like when I got home, there was, uh, I, I think it was a piece of Beechwood or something. Cause there was like sand on my face and sand in the cut.

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[01:53:41] Geoff Hylton: [01:53:41] Yeah. That's what I was thinking. Uh, I was like halfway got me right on the right on the orbital bone, actually the top of it.

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[01:54:01] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:54:01] do you blame him? Right?

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[01:54:06] I blame

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[01:54:16] Geoff Hylton: [01:54:16] fucking, I thought I came across as like a stoner, just like, whoa, Hey man. Peace, not baby. I'm thinking too big.

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[01:54:30] Geoff Hylton: [01:54:30] bit, okay.

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[01:54:34] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:54:34] Dude. I've punched somebody in the fucking face for pushing you. I know

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[01:54:52] So you probably smell it. I'd probably act as stoned. Uh, and I don't carry that disposition around anywhere. Uh, so just [01:55:00] because I'm a fucking big guy you're going to Molly, want me? No, that's total fucking bullshit. Bullshit. Um, and when I made the police report and they kind of gave him the same thing, like, Hey dude, this, uh, it's down there by Bach and rock where

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[01:55:13] Yeah. You didn't ever even told me that. And that's the part of it. This spot I was picturing. Yeah. There's a port-a-potty

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[01:55:28] He was like, you probably, you know, fuck scared and a little bit, like, I don't. I don't debt doesn't fucking matter. Like

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[01:55:35] Geoff Hylton: [01:55:35] them. Like what? I can't go anywhere because I'm a big guy. Oh. So suddenly the big guy has to fear for his life

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[01:55:46] Right. You're hot.

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[01:55:49] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:55:49] You're asking for it. Yeah. Walking around, like, uh, that's

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[01:56:08] That's enough for the homeless. Tried to wrestle with the homeless problem. Bye-bye self. Yeah. Um that's yeah, so that's that was it. Yeah. And I mean, I didn't, you know, like there were a bunch of people, a bunch of my first friends, fishing friends were like, Hey, let's fucking go over there.

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[01:56:27] I had that impulse, I'll be honest.

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[01:56:45] It's like, fucking, I've never posted anything that had really life on Instagram ever again from one, no, it didn't get my ass kicked to, uh, w come on.

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[01:56:57] Geoff Hylton: [01:56:57] Somebody said something really funny once I was. [01:57:00] Talking to something. I was like, yeah, fuck you, man. I could punch you in the face.

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[01:57:20] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:57:20] and more like

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[01:57:21] Plenty of people wouldn't have been able to take that same hit, no like a child or a woman. I mean, women can take a hit. Yeah,

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[01:57:37] Geoff Hylton: [01:57:37] dude, I don't give a fuck who gets kicked or what gets kicked.

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[01:57:42] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:57:42] Somebody thought that they would. Do that to you. And

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[01:57:55] That's getting kicked. They're quiet about that

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[01:57:58] Geoff Hylton: [01:57:58] Fuck that. I'm going to [01:58:00] focus on what's in front of me and if it's wrong, I'm going to fucking address it. And if it's right, then you don't need to, like, I don't need to show other people. I don't need everybody else getting involved in my fucking life.

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[01:58:27] Her dog, dog was just trying to sniff something and she yanked it and gave it a little boot. And I was just like, what,

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[01:58:35] Geoff Hylton: [01:58:35] Uh, I'm going to need a little more than that.

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[01:58:42] Oh. With

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[01:58:46] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:58:46] I mean, like you said, you do carry around a dog in a car often, so, you know, the protocol, you'd probably be able to determine whether the safety was there or not. Sure. Yeah. Okay. So that's probably a bad example. Yeah. I'll take that as it comes, because I've seen some questionable situations where I [01:59:00] wanted to break the window, but I've also left my dog in some situations where I'm like, I hope some fucking hero doesn't come by and break

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[01:59:07] I fucking one time when I was living in the funeral home in long beach, it was rod run weekend. And I went to go get together with some people. And I left Jason in the apartment and I thought I closed everything up and I left my bedroom window open and it's right on the highway. Uh, and I left and, you know, it was just like bumper to bumper traffic and it was nighttime.

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[01:59:38] Jeff Nesbitt: [01:59:38] I think the last time you were on the podcast, you told a story about letting a dog free for a day.

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[01:59:45] It was like midnight. I was still crabbing at this point. And I like to have a tube before bed to tobacco and I didn't have any, and the store was closed. So I went down to the boat to grab a can of two off the boat and it's midnight. And, uh, I'd gone surfing that night. I was going to go crab it in [02:00:00] the morning.

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[02:00:15] What are you doing? And all of a sudden she's like, oh, it's like, she like shit herself. Like, what does Jeff do it here? Uh, she's like, I'm, uh, uh, you lost my dog, didn't you? And she's like, hi dad. Fuck. I'm sorry. It's your father's fault. You left the goddamn door opened. And I was like, whatever, like, I'm going home.

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[02:00:35] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:00:35] been lost a few times.

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[02:00:40] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:00:40] It's probably weird seeing your mom out and about in the middle of the night, that was like, it's, that's your time? It's I rule the midnight if I saw my mom, when I was out in my, like, I consider my time, like four, four in the morning.

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[02:00:56] Geoff Hylton: [02:00:56] yeah, right away I knew something was up. Worlds are colliding. [02:01:00] Yes, that was that right here. Um, but no, it, it, uh, it happens

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[02:01:09] Geoff Hylton: [02:01:09] Yeah, that's true. She's going to fucking, let me, she's going to break me.

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[02:01:16] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:01:16] and we'll come do a podcast about it. I'm not looking forward to that. All right. Well, when you say we read one more of these, a piece we'll look for short ones, one more a piece, and then a wow. I opened up to that same one again. This book must be warped.

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[02:01:56] He is constantly seeking the love of someone, even if that means [02:02:00] often having to hear the word, no returning home defeated and feeling rejected and body and soul a warrior never gives in to fear when he is searching for what he needs without love. He is nothing.

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[02:02:18] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:02:18] oh, well, you know, I was going to say these ones, no analysis, but let's, I would like to hear this.

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[02:02:26] Geoff Hylton: [02:02:26] on. No, like that was, that was what was going to tease us with that. No, just saying like, I heard the words, but they didn't, nothing was registering just cause I was thinking over here.

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[02:02:42] Geoff Hylton: [02:02:42] Okay. Oops.

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[02:02:49] Geoff Hylton: [02:02:49] Well, that's not a bad idea. God, she is beautiful.

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[02:02:56] Geoff Hylton: [02:02:56] read the thing. Okay. Where worry the light. Uh, why [02:03:00] is Chinese milk? Can't do that one. Don't want to get labeled a racist

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[02:03:08] Geoff Hylton: [02:03:08] Oriental instead of Oriental? No, no.

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[02:03:14] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:03:14] Why? That's a type of food.

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[02:03:22] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:03:22] Um, we're getting it's a little too close to Scandinavia. Don't can't get us canceled at the last five

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[02:03:33] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:03:33] umbrella.

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[02:03:38] Geoff Hylton: [02:03:38] Yeah. Just like if you're Taiwan, Korea, China, I feel like I'm

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[02:03:46] Geoff Hylton: [02:03:46] like a slang term. It's like, it's fucking,

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[02:03:50] Geoff Hylton: [02:03:50] slur. It's not, it's like say in the middle east, uh, would you say the orient, like it's, there's nothing racist about it.

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[02:03:58] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:03:58] are you? Marco polo. Who's going to the [02:04:00] orient. Why don't you just tell me where you're going to.

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[02:04:14] Like that's how they fucking described that. And there was no, no, maybe there's something I don't know about that word, but you know

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[02:04:32] I mean, we weren't born, but remember as a human. Oh, okay. You've been there that made a lot more sense for there to be more racism and xenophobia and things like that because it's like, yeah, but now we just like, we know what everyone looks like. So we just have to override our little in-group out-group.

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[02:04:51] Geoff Hylton: [02:04:51] And personally, I fucking am outraged by the fact that like what you don't like that guy. Cause he's, cause the way he looks, I don't know, ridiculous. Like it [02:05:00] seems just as ridiculous to me as being like, no, I don't like that guy. He's got a fucking octopus on his shirt.

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[02:05:07] Cause they can't change it. It's just like what they look like. But you know, everybody has things like that. Like people who don't like fat people or people who don't like, you know, people, I hate people who hate dogs.

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[02:05:24] I hate people

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[02:05:33] Geoff Hylton: [02:05:33] you're not shoving it down. People's throats. Take her to leave it. Turn off if you don't like it. Yeah. Yeah. Say it again. Turn it off if you don't like it, but keep it on.

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[02:05:43] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:05:43] All right, Jeff, thank you so much for filling in. I appreciate it a lot and let's read one more of those as a closing word and then we'll get the fuck out of here.

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[02:05:56] A warrior knows that an angel and the devil are both [02:06:00] competing for a sword hand. The devil says you will weaken. You will not know exactly when you are afraid. The angel says you will weaken. You will not know exactly when you are afraid. The warrior is surprised. Both the angel and the devil have said the same thing.

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[02:06:40] Jeff Nesbitt: [02:06:40] I don't know who needed to hear that. I hope it works out for you. We are out of here.

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Ramble by the River
With Jeff Nesbitt
Ramble-(verb)
1. walk for pleasure, typically without a definite route.
2. talk or write at length in a confused or inconsequential way.

Ramble by the River (Ramblebytheriver.com) is about becoming the best human possible.

Join me and my guests, as we discuss the blessing that is the human experience. Ramble by the River is about finding an honest path to truth without losing our sense of humor along the way. It is about healing from the trauma of the past and moving into the next chapter of life with passion.

Common topics include: personal growth, entertainment, pop-culture, technology, education, psychology, drugs, health, history, politics, investing, conspiracies, and amazing personal stories from guests.

What does it mean to be a person? Is there a right or wrong way to do it? How has our species changed to accommodate the world that we have so drastically altered? What defines our generation? Where are we going? What is coincidence? Is time a mental construction? What happens after death? Which Jenifer is better looking (Lopez or Anniston)?

Tune in to any one of our exciting upcoming episodes to hear a comedian, a New York Times Best-Selling author, a fancy artist, a plumber, the Mayor of a large urban metropolis, a cancer survivor, a Presidential candidate, Jeff's dad, a female bull-riding champion, the founder of a large non-profit charity organization, Elon Musk, a guarded but eventually lovable country musician, a homeless guy, a homeless woman, a commercial fisherman, a world-renowned photo-journalist, or Kanye West.

When you go on a ramble, you never know where you are going to end up. All you can do is strap-in and enjoy the ride!
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Jeff Nesbitt

Jeff Nesbitt is a man of many interests. He is infinitely curious, brutally honest, and genuinely loves people. Jeff grew up in a small coastal community in the Pacific Northwest and after college he moved back to his hometown to start a family. When the Covid-19 crisis hit in 2020, regular social engagement was not an option, and Jeff realized that the missing ingredient in his life was human connection. So, like the fabled Noah and his Ark, Jeff started building a podcast studio without knowing what his show would actually be. Before the paint was even dry, Jeff start recording interviews with interesting friends, and Ramble by the River was born.